The Worst Restaurant Foods for Kids

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, J Craig wrote:

Drink This, Instead: Strawberry Citrus Fruit Blast (small)
snip
Eat This, Instead: Pepper Pals Grilled Chicken Platter with Cinnamon Apples

Who ever wrote this list has never had a kid, or never had a kid that
liked junk food and tried to make them eat healthy instead. What
"Invasion of the Body Snatchers" 8 year old do you have that will drink
and eat the above "alternatives"?

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The Master wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, J Craig wrote:

Drink This, Instead: Strawberry Citrus Fruit Blast (small)
snip
Eat This, Instead: Pepper Pals Grilled Chicken Platter with Cinnamon
Apples

Who ever wrote this list has never had a kid, or never had a kid that
liked junk food and tried to make them eat healthy instead. What
"Invasion of the Body Snatchers" 8 year old do you have that will
drink and eat the above "alternatives"?


Anyone for whom

- modelling healthy eating choices is a part of every day life (and
prefereably started when the kid was born rather than adopted later. An
ounce of prevention...)
- parents don't allow them to eat crap on a regular basis any more than they
allow them to stick knives in their eyes.



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On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Stephanie wrote:

Who ever wrote this list has never had a kid, or never had a kid that
liked junk food and tried to make them eat healthy instead. What
"Invasion of the Body Snatchers" 8 year old do you have that will
drink and eat the above "alternatives"?

Anyone for whom

- modelling healthy eating choices is a part of every day life (and
prefereably started when the kid was born rather than adopted later. An
ounce of prevention...)
- parents don't allow them to eat crap on a regular basis any more than they
allow them to stick knives in their eyes.

In other words, the ones that are already eating this way, and who never
ate the other way... So what? It's easy as hell to not drink Coca-Cola,
if you have never had it.

However, in the real world, where kids already eat the junk food, what
then? Give a chicken nugget eating child some grilled chicken breast
strips, he or she will ask what the white stuff is (the chicken) and
refuse to eat it. Pointing to healthy alternatives the child will REFUSE
to eat does no one any good! How about some alternatives that they might
actually give a try?

The Master wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Stephanie wrote:

Who ever wrote this list has never had a kid, or never had a kid
that liked junk food and tried to make them eat healthy instead. What
"Invasion of the Body Snatchers" 8 year old do you have that
will drink and eat the above "alternatives"?

Anyone for whom

- modelling healthy eating choices is a part of every day life (and
prefereably started when the kid was born rather than adopted later.
An ounce of prevention...)
- parents don't allow them to eat crap on a regular basis any more
than they allow them to stick knives in their eyes.

In other words, the ones that are already eating this way, and who
never ate the other way... So what? It's easy as hell to not drink
Coca-Cola, if you have never had it.



It is easier. But it is not the end of the world for a child to change
either.


However, in the real world, where kids already eat the junk food, what
then? Give a chicken nugget eating child some grilled chicken breast
strips, he or she will ask what the white stuff is (the chicken) and
refuse to eat it.


And thene what? Proceed to starve to death on thee spot? Assuming that you
speak to your child anywa, you explain about healthy eating habits and
learning new ways. You call upon the health classes that they have received
in school (assuming that they dont think the teacher is a dork) or whatever.
Then you do it.

There was a generation of kids who started out not wearing bicycle helmets.
They had to adjust. BFD.

A human animal, in the absence of one food, will eat anotherl. Only if you
pitch a battle or have other issues of weirdness going on in your family,
they won't starve themselves.

**** is hard. But it is better to do the hard thing of transforming eating
habits (particularly when it is relatively easy as a young person) than have
to deal with the conseuqences of a lifetime bad eating habits.


Pointing to healthy alternatives the child will
REFUSE to eat does no one any good! How about some alternatives that
they might actually give a try?


for how long is a child going to starve himself? I have no objection to
alternatives that will be tried. I saw nothing particularly interesting or
disinteresting about the alternatives provided. But the tendency I see for
parents to throw up their hands and say ... they won't eat! is a bunch of
crap and nonsense. Most people eat some huge amount more than they need
anyway.

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Stephanie wrote:

However, in the real world, where kids already eat the junk food, what
then? Give a chicken nugget eating child some grilled chicken breast
strips, he or she will ask what the white stuff is (the chicken) and
refuse to eat it.

And thene what? Proceed to starve to death on thee spot? Assuming that you
speak to your child anywa, you explain about healthy eating habits and
learning new ways.

You're funny... Reasoning with an 8 year old? ROTFLMAO!

Oh ****, you mean you are being serious? *shaking head*

There have been studies that show that forcing a child to eat healthy food
only re-enforces the idea that the food isn't good to begin with. Giving
the child the choice of eating good food or not eat, many will pick to not
eat or eat very little. However, what that does is make them associate
healthy food with punishment.

The Master wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Stephanie wrote:

However, in the real world, where kids already eat the junk food,
what then? Give a chicken nugget eating child some grilled chicken
breast strips, he or she will ask what the white stuff is (the
chicken) and refuse to eat it.

And thene what? Proceed to starve to death on thee spot? Assuming
that you speak to your child anywa, you explain about healthy eating
habits and learning new ways.

You're funny... Reasoning with an 8 year old? ROTFLMAO!



I have one. If you don't treat your child like a moron, it is amazing what
results you get. My five year old can make the right food choices. She is
not a moron. She is not treated like a moron.



Oh ****, you mean you are being serious? *shaking head*



What is scarier still is that you think your child is so weak and pathetic
that he or she cannot manage something as simple and brainless as garbage
in, garbage out.

There have been studies that show that forcing a child to eat healthy
food only re-enforces the idea that the food isn't good to begin
with.


Did I say anything at all about forcing any eating? I did not. Please read
for understanding.



Giving the child the choice of eating good food or not eat,
many will pick to not eat or eat very little.


That's LOVELY! The child can make a *choice* abot eating based on whether
or not they are hungry rather than wehether or not they can soothe their
woes or whatever in a bucket of ice cream.

Why do we think, in this society, that on the one hand one ought to eat
healthily and on the other hand that if the child does not eat very much
theere is something wrong? Every animal will not choose to starve.

However, what that
does is make them associate healthy food with punishment.


Not unless the parent views it as punishment.

The Master wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Stephanie wrote:

However, in the real world, where kids already eat the junk food,
what then? Give a chicken nugget eating child some grilled chicken
breast strips, he or she will ask what the white stuff is (the
chicken) and refuse to eat it.

And thene what? Proceed to starve to death on thee spot? Assuming
that you speak to your child anywa, you explain about healthy eating
habits and learning new ways.

You're funny... Reasoning with an 8 year old? ROTFLMAO!



You know what, you don't have the advantage of my whole story. So why don't
I share.

Wen my son was born, I was a smoker who had quit smoking while pregnant. I
resumed smoking nearly the millilsecond my son was done nursing. I was very
large at that point having never had very good eating habits to begin with.
Some years went by. And as they did, I had helped my son adopt some pretty
crappy eating habits of his own. He did not eat "enouogh" so I made
something else. Pickiest eatere you ever saw.

Over time two things dawned on me. I was not healthy. I also, frankly, was
not as attractive as I wanted to be. How can you be with that stinky thing
hanging out of your face?!? Etcetera and so forth. Over quite a bit of time
a journey followed which involved DH and I quitting smoking. We both slimmed
down, me by Weight Watchers and then learning how to exercise with a
personal trainer (whose patience I tested by being such a weenie) and him by
exercising like a maniac and just eating nearly nothing but lean meat, fruit
and veggies. I went from an 18 to a a 6. (I don't know what the weights
are/were since weight has no meaning to me.)

At the same time we looked at our son's diet and concluded it was crap. We
floundered with what to do abouot it. We did not want to make him miserable!
The in-laws would bich that he was not eating 'enough' and would do what I
had... short order cook until DS could not stand thee sight of food, it
caused such a ruckus of oooh and wringing of hands. Thi Was Just Wrong. We
dutifully reported that DS's diet was crap and thata it was our fault and
that we were cogitating. He would smile and patiently remind us that no one
ever starved on brussel sprout island.

Slowly and over time, with a couple of strng shoves at important points, we
lessened the amount of crap food available ton the table. We spoke to him
about our responsibility as parents to help him grow up to be the best him
he could be. Usually did that NOT at meal time ... And then we smiled
understandingly and said No we are sorry, we are not making you mac n cheese
for the 100th time this week. Dinner tonight is meatloaf, mashed potatoes
and peas, carrots and grapes. When you have finished the microscopic amounts
of the things you don't like on your plate, you can have more potatoes.
Would you like to try the peas or the grapes tonight for a new food?


Now among his list of favorite foods:

- beef terryaki
- home made mac n cheese with whole wheat pasta
- baked chicken fingers
- salmon in pretty much any form you give it to him from grilled, loaf,
patties...
- peaches
- bananas
- corn (he does not fight veggies, but he doesnt really love them either)
- home made baked fish sticks
- yougurt smoothies with fruit...
- cheese slices on whole wheat crackers
- bagels with hummous (I bought hummus as some kind of mental collapse
thinking that there was no WAY he would like it. But if he didn't at least I
would. He loved it from the first try.)


Oh I cannot even go on. We have a few cookbooks now that they get to pick
what to cook out of, including "Deceptively Delicious" by Seinfeld's wife.
..I never decieve them, though I do spin. The beets in the cake are to make
it purple. My daughter has chosen to try tuna salad because the recipe is
made inside a pipe crust shaped like a fish even though she does not like
tuna....


And then there are things that they willingly accept though they dont care
about one way or the other. I mix pureed cauliflower into the home made mac
n cheese. It gives it a little extra tang that they like...

And we DO eat crap too, just not as a regular event. We make cookies like
everyone else, thoguh we don't expect dessert every night. When we have
bbq's, we buy a bag of chips. We have treats that are exactly that, treats.
And BOY the extra fun involved in the treat is so ... well.... fun!


So obviously your guffaws of you can't be serious and whatnot are not very
compelling to me.

"The Master" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Stephanie wrote:

However, in the real world, where kids already eat the junk food, what
then? Give a chicken nugget eating child some grilled chicken breast
strips, he or she will ask what the white stuff is (the chicken) and
refuse to eat it.

And thene what? Proceed to starve to death on thee spot? Assuming that
you
speak to your child anywa, you explain about healthy eating habits and
learning new ways.

You're funny... Reasoning with an 8 year old? ROTFLMAO!

Oh ****, you mean you are being serious? *shaking head*

There have been studies that show that forcing a child to eat healthy food
only re-enforces the idea that the food isn't good to begin with. Giving
the child the choice of eating good food or not eat, many will pick to not
eat or eat very little. However, what that does is make them associate
healthy food with punishment.


You know "Master"... you're a great exemple of what's wrong with America...

If you can't teach an 8 years old to deal with things he/she isn't happy
about, what kind of teenager/adult will that kid become?

I love it, feed a kid junk food crap because they kid will REFUSE to eat
anything else.. that's so sad it's funny.

It has nothing to do with food, it has to do with actually raising a kid.

"The Master" wrote in message
r.org...
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Stephanie wrote:

Who ever wrote this list has never had a kid, or never had a kid that
liked junk food and tried to make them eat healthy instead. What
"Invasion of the Body Snatchers" 8 year old do you have that will
drink and eat the above "alternatives"?

Anyone for whom

- modelling healthy eating choices is a part of every day life (and
prefereably started when the kid was born rather than adopted later. An
ounce of prevention...)
- parents don't allow them to eat crap on a regular basis any more than
they
allow them to stick knives in their eyes.

In other words, the ones that are already eating this way, and who never
ate the other way... So what? It's easy as hell to not drink Coca-Cola,
if you have never had it.

However, in the real world, where kids already eat the junk food, what
then? Give a chicken nugget eating child some grilled chicken breast
strips, he or she will ask what the white stuff is (the chicken) and
refuse to eat it. Pointing to healthy alternatives the child will REFUSE
to eat does no one any good! How about some alternatives that they might
actually give a try?


WAHHHH It's not my fault!!

Typical whining fatass American

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Anthony Allende wrote:

WAHHHH It's not my fault!!

So you believe that when posting a list of alternative foods for children,
the expectation that the children in question will actually eat it is
unreasonable?