Please help on conent/agreement form

Legal aid denied me..

"Paul Fritz" wrote in message
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snicker you call me a 'dumbass' yet you don't have a clue what an
'ex-parte' order is...........better look in the mirror

BTW...nice snip job of the various points you didn't want to answer.


"natural_4u" wrote in message
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OK detective Paul... I don't know what an ex-parte order is but... the
other
parent NEVER appeared in court once. That looked good for me in court.


I guess it doesn't hurt to tell you exactly what happened. The other
parent
did not like the fact that my daughter had my last name and that MY
parents
are still together and not alcoholics. The other parent, I guess was
jealous.

You picked the other parent..........dumbass....................and we all
know what ASSuming does.

The other parent had told the legal aid lawyer they were scared of
me... that why legal aid had denied me.

A 'legal-aid' can't have you denied....only a judge can.........dumbass

I had to pay for my lawyer.

So.

My
lawyer said to the judge, "My client has appeared at every court date
and
the other parents has not appeared once now the other parent has left my
client with the child"

That cheap ass legal aid lawyer was put to shame. The judge did not
hesitate
to reverse the restraining order and added a supervised visitation.

"after 2 month of going back and forth to court I come home from work one
day and find my daughter at my house with my parents. I assumed that this
was a trap to make me go to jail so I went straight to court the next day
with my daughter and spoke to a legal council."

doesn't sound like 'not hesitating' to me............dumbass


Hey dumb-ass I almost forgot one last thing, if the other parents legal
aid
lawyer can't get a hold of their own client and left the child to me...
the
judge called it neglect and abandonment.

Are you asking a question or making a statement.......dumbass

My parents don't drink or do drugs.
The court usually will look at each parents family background for help
on
decision making on who the child should stay with.

No they don't, they look at the parents.......dumbass


I think you are just in a different part of the world with different
rules.

snicker you have already admitted you don't even know what the rules
are.........dumbass




"
This is where your story falls apart. The only type of order this
could
be
is an ex-parte order. It would only b calid until you both appeared
in
court, typically within 14 days..................either you are full
of
crap
or there is something you are not disclosing

ex-parte = From a one-sided or strongly biased point of view

I didn't know that before. I guess I should of looked it up before calling
you a dumb-ass and stuff.

Paul... I'm just saying that why all of sudden does my daughter's mom want
to start seeing her again? I know... because it's her daughter too.. right?!

You know I'm just getting my life back together and I dont need another road
block. I just don't want to take any chances.

The court did let me decide on the person to pick for the supervised
visitation. My daughter's mom never went for it. She rather not see her own
daughter than to have someone peeking over everytime she wants to see her
daughter. I nevered ask for that supervised visitation, the judge just
decleared it.

I'm not sure if you'd been burned before but its' not a good feeling.

"natural_4u" wrote in message
. ca...
ex-parte = From a one-sided or strongly biased point of view

I didn't know that before. I guess I should of looked it up before calling
you a dumb-ass and stuff.

Paul... I'm just saying that why all of sudden does my daughter's mom want
to start seeing her again? I know... because it's her daughter too..
right?!

Exactly......and your daughter NEEDS both her parents.

(On a side note.........Amy Lynn should be choking on her kneecaps right
about now, she stuck her feet so far down her throat snicker )


You know I'm just getting my life back together and I dont need another
road
block. I just don't want to take any chances.

Your daughter's mother is NOT a road block...........she is half your
daughter.......and will be part of your life forever. You need to start
dealing with that fact.


The court did let me decide on the person to pick for the supervised
visitation. My daughter's mom never went for it.

Then that is her decision.

She rather not see her own
daughter than to have someone peeking over everytime she wants to see her
daughter.

Then that is her decision

I nevered ask for that supervised visitation, the judge just
decleared it.

Based on the additional information you posted, this is not necessarily a
bad thing in the short term........she needs to reestaclish trust with the
courts.


I'm not sure if you'd been burned before but its' not a good feeling.

More so than you could ever imagine.


I may be wrong, but you sound young. I would suggest that you look up and
join a local 'father's rights' group. Not that you need it.....you are one
of the lucky (and rare) ones that actually got custody of your child. The
reason to join is that you will have access to a lot of legal information,
many times lawyers attend......you need to learn how the system works, and
to make it work effectively for you and your daughter....parental kidnapping
laws for one........but you need set parenting times to use it effectively.

Second......never bash your ex to your daughter, and for the sake of your
daughter, and in her best interest, your ultimate goal should be a shared
parenting of your your daughter with her mother. I am not saying that this
will happen overnight, it will take time for her to regain yours, and the
courts trust. Children need both a mother and a father, it takes that to
create them, it certainly takes that to raise them properly.

Third, realize that your daughter is a 'ward of the court' The
courts......not you, will be the ultimate decision maker for your
child......as bad as that seems, it is the fact........which is why you need
to know 'the system'

Finally, learn to be protective, not controling

natural_4u wrote in message
. ca...
ex-parte = From a one-sided or strongly biased point of view

I didn't know that before. I guess I should of looked it up before calling
you a dumb-ass and stuff.

Paul... I'm just saying that why all of sudden does my daughter's mom want
to start seeing her again? I know... because it's her daughter too..
right?!

You know I'm just getting my life back together and I dont need another
road
block. I just don't want to take any chances.

The court did let me decide on the person to pick for the supervised
visitation. My daughter's mom never went for it. She rather not see her
own
daughter than to have someone peeking over everytime she wants to see her
daughter. I nevered ask for that supervised visitation, the judge just
decleared it.

I'm not sure if you'd been burned before but its' not a good feeling.








If you don't let your daughter mom see her, one day your daughter is going
to ask why? Do you want to get into that with her? You should be bad
mouthing aboutyour ex with your daughter or anything. We all have been
burned but we all swallow our pride when it comes to the ex. Its about the
kid, not you.

"Paul Fritz" wrote in message ...
"natural_4u" wrote in message

You should start by growing up.


Thanks People!!!



Paul, in case you didnt see the newsgroup name, its support single
parents, there is nothing supportive in your posting whatsoever. All I
can see is nitpicking, hair splitting and semantics from you Paul, I
dont know why you are coming from where you are coming from and I dont
want to know. But if what that lady is saying is true and I have no
reason whatsoever not to believe her, she was seeking help from people
who may have been there already.
If you have nothing constructive to say, say nowt. Telling someone to
grow up because they are scared their ex-partner will take their child
away, is somewhat ironic, cos I can spot the immature poster here and
its not natural4u. I hope everything works out for you
natural...Althought I cant see how a written agreement will make your
ex bring your child back on time.

"natural_4u" wrote in message
news
Hello people,


I'm a single parent with a beautiful 10 years old daughter. I was just
wondering if anyone can help me with any ideas on preparing a
consent/agreement form. The form must have time of pick up/drop off,
contact
number, etc..

You might be thinking... if I don't trust the other person/parent why
even
let them take her for the day. Well...I'm not sure if I can give a
straight
answer... and verbal agreements just don't cut-it anymore. When I say to
bring her (my daughter) back by 5 PM , it's never on time, always 3-4
hours
late

Before we went to court it was all verbal agreements... and to make a long
story short, 7 years ago a SIMPLE weekend stay turn into a disaster
evolving
serious legal action.

So if I serve a consent form I might not have to worry.

Thanks People!!!



At the beginning of the divorce, my ex couldn't be trusted to bring our son
home on time. He'd deliberately bring him late or early in the attempt to
screw with my schedule. As in, if I had to work until 5pm he'd show up at
4pm and say that I was irresponsible and the like....

so, I started having him sign a paper everytime he picked up our son that
said what time he was bringing him home. The same type paper you use at a
child care place. This was all at the suggestion of my lawyer mind you. It
soon worked, because every time he would say "You never told me what time to
bring him home" I'd whip out the paper.

Eventually the pettiness went away and we were better able to work with each
other with visitation (of course this was when DS was a toddler)

If you are going to do it. Be sure to not make the wording condescending.
Don't antagonize the situation. Always be mindful that your child needs
both parents.

with respect,
*bri (who isn't really proud of how me and my ex handled things early on,
but grew up and changed that quickly)

Free hint to the clueless......getting your facts straight may stop you from
looking like such an ass the next time you post.

"SA" wrote in message
om...
"Paul Fritz" wrote in message
...
"natural_4u" wrote in message

You should start by growing up.


Thanks People!!!



Paul, in case you didnt see the newsgroup name, its support single
parents, there is nothing supportive in your posting whatsoever. All I
can see is nitpicking, hair splitting and semantics from you Paul, I
dont know why you are coming from where you are coming from and I dont
want to know. But if what that lady is saying is true and I have no
reason whatsoever not to believe her, she was seeking help from people
who may have been there already.
If you have nothing constructive to say, say nowt. Telling someone to
grow up because they are scared their ex-partner will take their child
away, is somewhat ironic, cos I can spot the immature poster here and
its not natural4u. I hope everything works out for you
natural...Althought I cant see how a written agreement will make your
ex bring your child back on time.

"natural_4u" wrote in message ...
Legal aid denied me..

I said before, legal aid cannot deny you unless you make a higher income
than x amount. That's what legal aid is for. Lower income persons who
cannot afford a lawyer straight out of the book.

"Paul Fritz" wrote in message
...

"natural_4u" wrote in message
. ca...
ex-parte = From a one-sided or strongly biased point of view

I didn't know that before. I guess I should of looked it up before calling
you a dumb-ass and stuff.

Paul... I'm just saying that why all of sudden does my daughter's mom want
to start seeing her again? I know... because it's her daughter too..
right?!

Exactly......and your daughter NEEDS both her parents.

(On a side note.........Amy Lynn should be choking on her kneecaps right
about now, she stuck her feet so far down her throat snicker )

For calling you out on how you slam women? Nah......... you wouldn't do such a
thing, would you!



You know I'm just getting my life back together and I dont need another
road
block. I just don't want to take any chances.

Your daughter's mother is NOT a road block...........she is half your
daughter.......and will be part of your life forever. You need to start
dealing with that fact.


The court did let me decide on the person to pick for the supervised
visitation. My daughter's mom never went for it.

Then that is her decision.

She rather not see her own
daughter than to have someone peeking over everytime she wants to see her
daughter.

Then that is her decision

I nevered ask for that supervised visitation, the judge just
decleared it.

Based on the additional information you posted, this is not necessarily a
bad thing in the short term........she needs to reestaclish trust with the
courts.


I'm not sure if you'd been burned before but its' not a good feeling.

More so than you could ever imagine.


I may be wrong, but you sound young. I would suggest that you look up and
join a local 'father's rights' group. Not that you need it.....you are one
of the lucky (and rare) ones that actually got custody of your child. The
reason to join is that you will have access to a lot of legal information,
many times lawyers attend......you need to learn how the system works, and
to make it work effectively for you and your daughter....parental kidnapping
laws for one........but you need set parenting times to use it effectively.

Second......never bash your ex to your daughter, and for the sake of your
daughter, and in her best interest, your ultimate goal should be a shared
parenting of your your daughter with her mother. I am not saying that this
will happen overnight, it will take time for her to regain yours, and the
courts trust. Children need both a mother and a father, it takes that to
create them, it certainly takes that to raise them properly.

Third, realize that your daughter is a 'ward of the court' The
courts......not you, will be the ultimate decision maker for your
child......as bad as that seems, it is the fact........which is why you need
to know 'the system'

Finally, learn to be protective, not controling

In ,
Paul Fritz typed:
"natural_4u" wrote in message
. ca...
ex-parte = From a one-sided or strongly biased point of view

I didn't know that before. I guess I should of looked it up before
calling you a dumb-ass and stuff.

Paul... I'm just saying that why all of sudden does my daughter's
mom want to start seeing her again? I know... because it's her
daughter too.. right?!

Exactly......and your daughter NEEDS both her parents.

(On a side note.........Amy Lynn should be choking on her kneecaps
right about now, she stuck her feet so far down her throat snicker
)


You know I'm just getting my life back together and I dont need
another road block. I just don't want to take any chances.

Your daughter's mother is NOT a road block...........she is half your
daughter.......and will be part of your life forever. You need to
start dealing with that fact.


The court did let me decide on the person to pick for the supervised
visitation. My daughter's mom never went for it.

Then that is her decision.

She rather not see her own
daughter than to have someone peeking over everytime she wants to
see her daughter.

Then that is her decision

I nevered ask for that supervised visitation, the judge just
decleared it.

Based on the additional information you posted, this is not
necessarily a bad thing in the short term........she needs to
reestaclish trust with the courts.


I'm not sure if you'd been burned before but its' not a good feeling.

More so than you could ever imagine.


I may be wrong, but you sound young. I would suggest that you look
up and join a local 'father's rights' group. Not that you need
it.....you are one of the lucky (and rare) ones that actually got
custody of your child. The reason to join is that you will have
access to a lot of legal information, many times lawyers
attend......you need to learn how the system works, and to make it
work effectively for you and your daughter....parental kidnapping
laws for one........but you need set parenting times to use it
effectively.

Second......never bash your ex to your daughter, and for the sake of
your daughter, and in her best interest, your ultimate goal should be
a shared parenting of your your daughter with her mother. I am not
saying that this will happen overnight, it will take time for her to
regain yours, and the courts trust. Children need both a mother and
a father, it takes that to create them, it certainly takes that to
raise them properly.

Third, realize that your daughter is a 'ward of the court' The
courts......not you, will be the ultimate decision maker for your
child......as bad as that seems, it is the fact........which is why
you need to know 'the system'

Finally, learn to be protective, not controling


Well said, Paul. You pointed out the exact same things I would have, but
more concisely than I could have. I tend to ramble on a bit, if you hadn't
noticed.

Betsy
--
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with
ketchup.