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Old July 13th 04, 09:31 PM
Bob
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Don wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
om...

Interesting how the "justice" system failed to listen to the man in
this case, yet were all eyes and ears when he decided to take it upon
himself to save his child from the child's dangerous and felonous
mother.



http://abcnews.go.com/sections/US/Go..._040713-1.html


When they started Amber Alert in one sense I thought it is a good thing but
knew some liberal asshole police department would eventually abuse it by
using it against fathers that take their children out of dangerous
situations or in custody disputes. This is very sad day for what the Amber
Alert system was really intended for.

Hopefully this will not be a continuing pattern since you do not want to
have people ignoring the Amber Alert since they may feel it used for custody
issues and may not assist in the program when a legitamate kidnapping does
occur.


Probably 99% of "Amber Alert" warnings are for domestic custody
disputes, and probably that means 98% are issued for fathers who are
taking care of their children. We had another Amber Alert this weekend,
another man who was protecting his daughter. Another man rounded up by
the Feminazi Gestapo and sent to concentration camp.

The system was intended to be another tool of radical misandrist
feminism, and it has certainly proved itself so.

Bob




--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]


  #22  
Old July 13th 04, 09:31 PM
Bob
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Default Man arrested for saving child

Don wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
om...

Interesting how the "justice" system failed to listen to the man in
this case, yet were all eyes and ears when he decided to take it upon
himself to save his child from the child's dangerous and felonous
mother.



http://abcnews.go.com/sections/US/Go..._040713-1.html


When they started Amber Alert in one sense I thought it is a good thing but
knew some liberal asshole police department would eventually abuse it by
using it against fathers that take their children out of dangerous
situations or in custody disputes. This is very sad day for what the Amber
Alert system was really intended for.

Hopefully this will not be a continuing pattern since you do not want to
have people ignoring the Amber Alert since they may feel it used for custody
issues and may not assist in the program when a legitamate kidnapping does
occur.


Probably 99% of "Amber Alert" warnings are for domestic custody
disputes, and probably that means 98% are issued for fathers who are
taking care of their children. We had another Amber Alert this weekend,
another man who was protecting his daughter. Another man rounded up by
the Feminazi Gestapo and sent to concentration camp.

The system was intended to be another tool of radical misandrist
feminism, and it has certainly proved itself so.

Bob




--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]


  #23  
Old July 13th 04, 09:32 PM
Bob
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Default Man arrested for saving child

AZ Astrea wrote:
"Don" don@free wrote in message ...

"Steve" wrote in message
.com...

Interesting how the "justice" system failed to listen to the man in
this case, yet were all eyes and ears when he decided to take it upon
himself to save his child from the child's dangerous and felonous
mother.



http://abcnews.go.com/sections/US/Go...rt_father_0407
13-1.html

When they started Amber Alert in one sense I thought it is a good thing


but

knew some liberal asshole police department would eventually abuse it by
using it against fathers that take their children out of dangerous
situations or in custody disputes. This is very sad day for what the


Amber

Alert system was really intended for.

Hopefully this will not be a continuing pattern since you do not want to
have people ignoring the Amber Alert since they may feel it used for


custody

issues and may not assist in the program when a legitamate kidnapping does
occur.


----------------------
A couple weeks ago they issued an Amber Alert for a young girl here in AZ.
Naturally it was just a father not returning his daughter. The way they are
using Amber Alerts it's not going to be long before everybody ignores them.

~AZ~


If we are lucky they will go the way of the kids on milk cartons. Just
another anti father hate tactic that eventually gets ignored.

Bob


--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]


  #24  
Old July 13th 04, 09:32 PM
Bob
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Default Man arrested for saving child

AZ Astrea wrote:
"Don" don@free wrote in message ...

"Steve" wrote in message
.com...

Interesting how the "justice" system failed to listen to the man in
this case, yet were all eyes and ears when he decided to take it upon
himself to save his child from the child's dangerous and felonous
mother.



http://abcnews.go.com/sections/US/Go...rt_father_0407
13-1.html

When they started Amber Alert in one sense I thought it is a good thing


but

knew some liberal asshole police department would eventually abuse it by
using it against fathers that take their children out of dangerous
situations or in custody disputes. This is very sad day for what the


Amber

Alert system was really intended for.

Hopefully this will not be a continuing pattern since you do not want to
have people ignoring the Amber Alert since they may feel it used for


custody

issues and may not assist in the program when a legitamate kidnapping does
occur.


----------------------
A couple weeks ago they issued an Amber Alert for a young girl here in AZ.
Naturally it was just a father not returning his daughter. The way they are
using Amber Alerts it's not going to be long before everybody ignores them.

~AZ~


If we are lucky they will go the way of the kids on milk cartons. Just
another anti father hate tactic that eventually gets ignored.

Bob


--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]


  #25  
Old July 13th 04, 09:32 PM
Bob
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Default Man arrested for saving child

AZ Astrea wrote:
"Don" don@free wrote in message ...

"Steve" wrote in message
.com...

Interesting how the "justice" system failed to listen to the man in
this case, yet were all eyes and ears when he decided to take it upon
himself to save his child from the child's dangerous and felonous
mother.



http://abcnews.go.com/sections/US/Go...rt_father_0407
13-1.html

When they started Amber Alert in one sense I thought it is a good thing


but

knew some liberal asshole police department would eventually abuse it by
using it against fathers that take their children out of dangerous
situations or in custody disputes. This is very sad day for what the


Amber

Alert system was really intended for.

Hopefully this will not be a continuing pattern since you do not want to
have people ignoring the Amber Alert since they may feel it used for


custody

issues and may not assist in the program when a legitamate kidnapping does
occur.


----------------------
A couple weeks ago they issued an Amber Alert for a young girl here in AZ.
Naturally it was just a father not returning his daughter. The way they are
using Amber Alerts it's not going to be long before everybody ignores them.

~AZ~


If we are lucky they will go the way of the kids on milk cartons. Just
another anti father hate tactic that eventually gets ignored.

Bob


--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]


  #26  
Old July 13th 04, 09:42 PM
Bob
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Default Man arrested for saving child

Steve wrote:
Interesting how the "justice" system failed to listen to the man in
this case, yet were all eyes and ears when he decided to take it upon
himself to save his child from the child's dangerous and felonous
mother.


US Law generally does not allow you to protect yourself or your
children. Most people will remember the guy on the NYC subway who was
arrested and sentenced after protecting himself from a gang of thugs.
Unless you are home, in your own home, and someone breaks into your home
and actually threatens to kill you, US law will likely come down harder
on you than the person you are defending yourself from.

The Gun Thugs also have no duty or obligation to protect anyone, as they
have repeatedly told courts and been supported. Protecting anyone is
not their job.

So in summary, you are not allowed to protect yourself or your family,
and nobody else is allowed to either. Your only hope is to stay out of
notice and hope that whoever the gun thugs rounded up last week will
save you. Of course that doesn't work when your child is at serious
risk, but that's the law. No man or his child is safe under feminazism
nor from their SS Gestapo in blue.

Cleveland apparently learned the hard way. When your kid is taken,
unless you are willing to take up arms agaisnt the system, all you can
do is kiss her goodbye.

Bob





http://abcnews.go.com/sections/US/Go..._040713-1.html

Excerpts:

Defense lawyer Mark Shapera said Cleveland had primary custody of
Sabrina and that the child's mother violated a custodial agreement by
taking her out of state. Cleveland had filed a motion of contempt
against Montgomery and contacted Pennsylvania police but received no
help from officials, Shapera maintained.

"The Pennsylvania police should have done more to check out the
background [of Cleveland]," Shapera told ABC News affiliate WTNH in
New Haven, Conn.

Cleveland insists he was saving Sabrina from a dangerous situation and
did not regret taking his daughter. He told WTNH that Montgomery is "a
violent person." A Cleveland family friend added, "I think he should
get his daughter back, and she [Montgomery] should get in trouble,
too. She left the state with her."

But Pennsylvania police say they responded appropriately to the Amber
Alert and that Cleveland should not have taken matters into his own
hands.




--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]


  #27  
Old July 13th 04, 09:42 PM
Bob
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Default Man arrested for saving child

Steve wrote:
Interesting how the "justice" system failed to listen to the man in
this case, yet were all eyes and ears when he decided to take it upon
himself to save his child from the child's dangerous and felonous
mother.


US Law generally does not allow you to protect yourself or your
children. Most people will remember the guy on the NYC subway who was
arrested and sentenced after protecting himself from a gang of thugs.
Unless you are home, in your own home, and someone breaks into your home
and actually threatens to kill you, US law will likely come down harder
on you than the person you are defending yourself from.

The Gun Thugs also have no duty or obligation to protect anyone, as they
have repeatedly told courts and been supported. Protecting anyone is
not their job.

So in summary, you are not allowed to protect yourself or your family,
and nobody else is allowed to either. Your only hope is to stay out of
notice and hope that whoever the gun thugs rounded up last week will
save you. Of course that doesn't work when your child is at serious
risk, but that's the law. No man or his child is safe under feminazism
nor from their SS Gestapo in blue.

Cleveland apparently learned the hard way. When your kid is taken,
unless you are willing to take up arms agaisnt the system, all you can
do is kiss her goodbye.

Bob





http://abcnews.go.com/sections/US/Go..._040713-1.html

Excerpts:

Defense lawyer Mark Shapera said Cleveland had primary custody of
Sabrina and that the child's mother violated a custodial agreement by
taking her out of state. Cleveland had filed a motion of contempt
against Montgomery and contacted Pennsylvania police but received no
help from officials, Shapera maintained.

"The Pennsylvania police should have done more to check out the
background [of Cleveland]," Shapera told ABC News affiliate WTNH in
New Haven, Conn.

Cleveland insists he was saving Sabrina from a dangerous situation and
did not regret taking his daughter. He told WTNH that Montgomery is "a
violent person." A Cleveland family friend added, "I think he should
get his daughter back, and she [Montgomery] should get in trouble,
too. She left the state with her."

But Pennsylvania police say they responded appropriately to the Amber
Alert and that Cleveland should not have taken matters into his own
hands.




--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]


  #28  
Old July 13th 04, 09:42 PM
Bob
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Default Man arrested for saving child

Steve wrote:
Interesting how the "justice" system failed to listen to the man in
this case, yet were all eyes and ears when he decided to take it upon
himself to save his child from the child's dangerous and felonous
mother.


US Law generally does not allow you to protect yourself or your
children. Most people will remember the guy on the NYC subway who was
arrested and sentenced after protecting himself from a gang of thugs.
Unless you are home, in your own home, and someone breaks into your home
and actually threatens to kill you, US law will likely come down harder
on you than the person you are defending yourself from.

The Gun Thugs also have no duty or obligation to protect anyone, as they
have repeatedly told courts and been supported. Protecting anyone is
not their job.

So in summary, you are not allowed to protect yourself or your family,
and nobody else is allowed to either. Your only hope is to stay out of
notice and hope that whoever the gun thugs rounded up last week will
save you. Of course that doesn't work when your child is at serious
risk, but that's the law. No man or his child is safe under feminazism
nor from their SS Gestapo in blue.

Cleveland apparently learned the hard way. When your kid is taken,
unless you are willing to take up arms agaisnt the system, all you can
do is kiss her goodbye.

Bob





http://abcnews.go.com/sections/US/Go..._040713-1.html

Excerpts:

Defense lawyer Mark Shapera said Cleveland had primary custody of
Sabrina and that the child's mother violated a custodial agreement by
taking her out of state. Cleveland had filed a motion of contempt
against Montgomery and contacted Pennsylvania police but received no
help from officials, Shapera maintained.

"The Pennsylvania police should have done more to check out the
background [of Cleveland]," Shapera told ABC News affiliate WTNH in
New Haven, Conn.

Cleveland insists he was saving Sabrina from a dangerous situation and
did not regret taking his daughter. He told WTNH that Montgomery is "a
violent person." A Cleveland family friend added, "I think he should
get his daughter back, and she [Montgomery] should get in trouble,
too. She left the state with her."

But Pennsylvania police say they responded appropriately to the Amber
Alert and that Cleveland should not have taken matters into his own
hands.




--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]


  #29  
Old July 13th 04, 10:24 PM
P.Fritz
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"Don" don@free wrote in message ...

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...
Another fathers screws himself.......probably took advice from someone

like
Booby.


"Cleveland insists he was saving Sabrina from a dangerous situation and

did
not regret taking his daughter."

How did he screw himself?


If you read the article, it said he took her at gun point. Even if he
didn't, the proper method would have been with the courts, been there, done
that..

It sounds like the government again acted
inappropriately as usual involving themselves in area for which they do

not
belong. However we are only getting one side of the story here so perhaps
reserve full judgement on this issue and only speculate.


If he went to another state, made nay sort of threats to retrieve the child,
he's screwed himself.



"Steve" wrote in message
om...
Interesting how the "justice" system failed to listen to the man in
this case, yet were all eyes and ears when he decided to take it upon
himself to save his child from the child's dangerous and felonous
mother.




http://abcnews.go.com/sections/US/Go..._040713-1.html

Excerpts:

Defense lawyer Mark Shapera said Cleveland had primary custody of
Sabrina and that the child's mother violated a custodial agreement by
taking her out of state. Cleveland had filed a motion of contempt
against Montgomery and contacted Pennsylvania police but received no
help from officials, Shapera maintained.

"The Pennsylvania police should have done more to check out the
background [of Cleveland]," Shapera told ABC News affiliate WTNH in
New Haven, Conn.

Cleveland insists he was saving Sabrina from a dangerous situation and
did not regret taking his daughter. He told WTNH that Montgomery is "a
violent person." A Cleveland family friend added, "I think he should
get his daughter back, and she [Montgomery] should get in trouble,
too. She left the state with her."

But Pennsylvania police say they responded appropriately to the Amber
Alert and that Cleveland should not have taken matters into his own
hands.







  #30  
Old July 13th 04, 10:24 PM
P.Fritz
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Posts: n/a
Default Man arrested for saving child


"Don" don@free wrote in message ...

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...
Another fathers screws himself.......probably took advice from someone

like
Booby.


"Cleveland insists he was saving Sabrina from a dangerous situation and

did
not regret taking his daughter."

How did he screw himself?


If you read the article, it said he took her at gun point. Even if he
didn't, the proper method would have been with the courts, been there, done
that..

It sounds like the government again acted
inappropriately as usual involving themselves in area for which they do

not
belong. However we are only getting one side of the story here so perhaps
reserve full judgement on this issue and only speculate.


If he went to another state, made nay sort of threats to retrieve the child,
he's screwed himself.



"Steve" wrote in message
om...
Interesting how the "justice" system failed to listen to the man in
this case, yet were all eyes and ears when he decided to take it upon
himself to save his child from the child's dangerous and felonous
mother.




http://abcnews.go.com/sections/US/Go..._040713-1.html

Excerpts:

Defense lawyer Mark Shapera said Cleveland had primary custody of
Sabrina and that the child's mother violated a custodial agreement by
taking her out of state. Cleveland had filed a motion of contempt
against Montgomery and contacted Pennsylvania police but received no
help from officials, Shapera maintained.

"The Pennsylvania police should have done more to check out the
background [of Cleveland]," Shapera told ABC News affiliate WTNH in
New Haven, Conn.

Cleveland insists he was saving Sabrina from a dangerous situation and
did not regret taking his daughter. He told WTNH that Montgomery is "a
violent person." A Cleveland family friend added, "I think he should
get his daughter back, and she [Montgomery] should get in trouble,
too. She left the state with her."

But Pennsylvania police say they responded appropriately to the Amber
Alert and that Cleveland should not have taken matters into his own
hands.







 




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