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The root of all evil
"AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... "witchwirsen" wrote in message om... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... "AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... Oh and I like to read about the woes of irresponsible women who haphazardly let any men they find appealing leave their reproductive cells in their receptacle. And then when the appeal wears off they whine about having to provide support to the life they created. But wait! Women have more choices than that! Once the appeal wears off they can 1) go to planned parenthood and get the morning after pill 2) go to planned parenthood and get RU486 3) get an abortion 4) give birth and give it up for adoption 5) give birth, play mommy for a couple days and drop the kid off at a hospital or firestation. Sounds like you are jealous. We can have sex and have more choices than you. You're just mad because you can't get it on without worry worry worry. I'll make a deal with you Bob. Any time you want to trade your assured orgasm for the female IFFY one, and any time you want to trade your virtually no bother reproductive organs for my bleeding uterus ----------- squick! -------- which has to be prodded and poked by some doctor a couple times of year but more often than that if I happen to get pregnant I will so trade with you. Just to sweeten the deal I will let you have my cramps AND pay your child support. Then after a few years you can tell me how you like BC pills, creams, gyno appointments, diaphragms, IUD's, labor, nausea, breast exams, being unable to have sex for 8 whole days a month (not to ention the MESSSS!!!! EWWWW) and the expense of keeping up with the medical needs of thse organs. BTW....give birth, play mommy for a couple days and drop the kid off at a hospital or firestation. ----- I am quite sure that does not happen as often as you would have someone believe. You left out the first line of defense - Women can inject themselves with an over the counter spermicide like Gynol II or other spermicide based product to kill any active sperm in their "receptacle" before they go to PP for Plan B, RU486, pill based abortion, or medical abortion. ---------------- Actually I said that, not Bob. I am a woman. And since we woman have the above mentioned choices we DON'T have to become mommies. And what's up with the whole scenario about periods, birth control and breast exams? I take one teeny pill each day, I have a couple cramps for a couple days before my period which, thank dog, doesn't last 8 days and once a year I go for a mammogram. No big deal. Why do so many women like to play the victim card in so many ways? It's inconceivable to me. ~AZ~ Because sometimes it works? (Just not here) Phil #3 |
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The root of all evil
"witchwirsen" wrote in message om... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... "witchwirsen" wrote in message om... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... "AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... Oh and I like to read about the woes of irresponsible women who haphazardly let any men they find appealing leave their reproductive cells in their receptacle. And then when the appeal wears off they whine about having to provide support to the life they created. But wait! Women have more choices than that! Once the appeal wears off they can 1) go to planned parenthood and get the morning after pill 2) go to planned parenthood and get RU486 3) get an abortion 4) give birth and give it up for adoption 5) give birth, play mommy for a couple days and drop the kid off at a hospital or firestation. Sounds like you are jealous. We can have sex and have more choices than you. You're just mad because you can't get it on without worry worry worry. I'll make a deal with you Bob. Any time you want to trade your assured orgasm for the female IFFY one, and any time you want to trade your virtually no bother reproductive organs for my bleeding uterus which has to be prodded and poked by some doctor a couple times of year but more often than that if I happen to get pregnant I will so trade with you. Just to sweeten the deal I will let you have my cramps AND pay your child support. Then after a few years you can tell me how you like BC pills, creams, gyno appointments, diaphragms, IUD's, labor, nausea, breast exams, being unable to have sex for 8 whole days a month (not to ention the MESSSS!!!! EWWWW) and the expense of keeping up with the medical needs of thse organs. BTW....give birth, play mommy for a couple days and drop the kid off at a hospital Nice snip job. You do a bunch of snipping to make it appear I wrote what you are commenting about. The poster you are responding to about the above is a WOMAN. Your anger toward men is so out of control, you assume a lot, and that reflects on you. Thanks for offering to pay my CS. I don't owe any, but if you want to reimburse me for prior CS paid you'll need to take out a very large loan. or firestation. ----- I am quite sure that does not happen as often as you would have someone believe. You left out the first line of defense - Women can inject themselves with an over the counter spermicide like Gynol II or other spermicide based product to kill any active sperm in their "receptacle" before they go to PP for Plan B, RU486, pill based abortion, or medical abortion. This was my comment that added to what the WOMAN poster said above. I didn't 'snip' jack. I never do. I have no reason to. I do know of a few things that I would LIKE to snip tho. As for the loan...I'll get right on that as soon as you birth a few kids and raise them, however, I don't feel a loan will be necessary, I could probably cover it with what's in just one of my bank accounts. Have a nice day. Well so far you are damn near the perfect woman. You have painful periods. You have a bleeding uterus. You have "iffy" orgasms. You have mammograms for that hurt your breasts. You go to the doctor a lot to get checked for who knows what. You gave birth to a kid so you are superior to all men. How does life get any better than that? Could it be a monthly paycheck! |
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The root of all evil
"witchwirsen" wrote in message om... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... "witchwirsen" wrote in message om... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... "AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... Oh and I like to read about the woes of irresponsible women who haphazardly let any men they find appealing leave their reproductive cells in their receptacle. And then when the appeal wears off they whine about having to provide support to the life they created. But wait! Women have more choices than that! Once the appeal wears off they can 1) go to planned parenthood and get the morning after pill 2) go to planned parenthood and get RU486 3) get an abortion 4) give birth and give it up for adoption 5) give birth, play mommy for a couple days and drop the kid off at a hospital or firestation. Sounds like you are jealous. We can have sex and have more choices than you. You're just mad because you can't get it on without worry worry worry. I'll make a deal with you Bob. Any time you want to trade your assured orgasm for the female IFFY one, and any time you want to trade your virtually no bother reproductive organs for my bleeding uterus which has to be prodded and poked by some doctor a couple times of year but more often than that if I happen to get pregnant I will so trade with you. Just to sweeten the deal I will let you have my cramps AND pay your child support. Then after a few years you can tell me how you like BC pills, creams, gyno appointments, diaphragms, IUD's, labor, nausea, breast exams, being unable to have sex for 8 whole days a month (not to ention the MESSSS!!!! EWWWW) and the expense of keeping up with the medical needs of thse organs. BTW....give birth, play mommy for a couple days and drop the kid off at a hospital Nice snip job. You do a bunch of snipping to make it appear I wrote what you are commenting about. The poster you are responding to about the above is a WOMAN. Your anger toward men is so out of control, you assume a lot, and that reflects on you. Thanks for offering to pay my CS. I don't owe any, but if you want to reimburse me for prior CS paid you'll need to take out a very large loan. or firestation. ----- I am quite sure that does not happen as often as you would have someone believe. You left out the first line of defense - Women can inject themselves with an over the counter spermicide like Gynol II or other spermicide based product to kill any active sperm in their "receptacle" before they go to PP for Plan B, RU486, pill based abortion, or medical abortion. This was my comment that added to what the WOMAN poster said above. I didn't 'snip' jack. I never do. I have no reason to. I do know of a few things that I would LIKE to snip tho. As for the loan...I'll get right on that as soon as you birth a few kids and raise them, however, I don't feel a loan will be necessary, I could probably cover it with what's in just one of my bank accounts. Have a nice day. Well so far you are damn near the perfect woman. You have painful periods. You have a bleeding uterus. You have "iffy" orgasms. You have mammograms for that hurt your breasts. You go to the doctor a lot to get checked for who knows what. You gave birth to a kid so you are superior to all men. How does life get any better than that? Could it be a monthly paycheck! |
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The root of all evil
Phil #3 wrote:
[Piggybacking since I couldn't find the original article] "witchwirsen" wrote in message .com... [snip] BTW....give birth, play mommy for a couple days and drop the kid off at a hospital or firestation. ----- I am quite sure that does not happen as often as you would have someone believe. In 1998 it s estimated to have happened a little over 30,000 times, up from 21,600 in 1991. Since the law has become effective in 34 states starting in 1999, I wonder how much it has grown since then and I feel sure you can bet it has gone up. http://www.acf.hhs.gov/news/stats/abandon.htm Phil #3 Before the drop-off laws mommies were just dropping their babies in the nearest dumpster. It's better, but still no father has similar rights. Bob -- When did we divide into sides? "As president, I will put American government and our legal system back on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/ [Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.] |
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Phil #3 wrote:
[Piggybacking since I couldn't find the original article] "witchwirsen" wrote in message .com... [snip] BTW....give birth, play mommy for a couple days and drop the kid off at a hospital or firestation. ----- I am quite sure that does not happen as often as you would have someone believe. In 1998 it s estimated to have happened a little over 30,000 times, up from 21,600 in 1991. Since the law has become effective in 34 states starting in 1999, I wonder how much it has grown since then and I feel sure you can bet it has gone up. http://www.acf.hhs.gov/news/stats/abandon.htm Phil #3 Before the drop-off laws mommies were just dropping their babies in the nearest dumpster. It's better, but still no father has similar rights. Bob -- When did we divide into sides? "As president, I will put American government and our legal system back on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/ [Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.] |
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New and help needed ( was The root of all evil )
My levels are improving, with MUCH toying with the hormones.
My name is not John, my husband is John, we share an e-mail account. I'm disgusted that the two states would allow such a thing to happen. I myself can only suggest that you do your best to convey, in your hearing, that you have evidence to the facts you state here. I would be compelled to submit that evidence...where did you say you live? Pro Per is easy in California. Seems like you are pretty smart. If you were able to figue out what exact statutes were broken then I am confident that you would be able to file forms and defend yourself, I know it can be hard, it took me 9 months to complete my divorce and hours upon hours hunched over books at the law library, but it can be done. PS, If you qualify Legal Aid in your area can provide you with an attorney to defend you, or possibly advice on how to defend yourself, have you called them? It is much easier to get legal aid to take a case when you are the defendant than it is when you are the plaintiff. There are income guidelines, but it sounds as if you may indeed qualify. Wish you luck, keep us informed. PS, sometimes you can find a lot of info at Nolo "John Riggs" wrote in message ews.com... ah, now I understand...( doggonit, you keep writing stuff to keep me from lurking ) Yes, that hypothyroidism will get you every time. Any luck getting stable? I know all too well about those doctor visits with hypothyroidism, ulcerative colitis, asthma, and a host of a few other wonder autoimmune issues. BTW, I don't recall ever seeing any women named John ( your addy ). Since you managed to get me to delurk, any clues on how a guy should proceed in an appeal to a state supreme court to get them to undo the screw up they created almost 8 years ago? My wonderful ex started a separate case in a neighboring state for child support while my son was attending school there and staying with her ( call it an effort to improve his scholastic performance and behavioral issues ). I had legal custody, I paid her for his expenses and an amount equal to the amount she had to pay me for support here. ( Basically, what she did is forum shopping, forbidden under 28 USC 1738A ). The other state created a separate case without notifying this state ( forbidden under 28 USC 1738B ). The two states are neighboring states and a mileage difference of only 50 miles. She needed to file her case here, but she chose the other state. Why you ask? Because she owed me over $1000 in arrears, and she would not be allowed to file in this state for custody ( Oh, I forgot mention that part? ). Yes, she also got the other state to give her custody. Is it legal, you ask? No, but they other state is not recognizing the original decree, or the continuing exclusive jurisdiction of this state, making all of their claims bogus. They are hounding *me*, and you won't even believe to what extent, for $23,044.35 in a child support arrearage that does not exist. So why hasn't this state said anything? Try as I may, this state seems to be ignorant of the existence of the other state's case and claim. Why? I don't know. I do know I paid all support here, plus additional amounts ( recorded with the clerk of the court here as CS payments to her there ). She is claiming CS in two states simultaneously on the same two children. Suffice it to say, the records exist to show overwhelming evidence to support my case, but, I was just denied it being vacated, because it is too late ( 6 years from a default judgment...ask me about that one please. You won't believe that story ) to file a motion in this case. (???????), it's bogus and they know it, but the court refuses to accept it. So, now that they wasted as much time as possible in notifying me of their decision, I had the weekend ( yeah, all weekend ) to create an appeal. The other state had only left me a two day response time in which to file an appeal. Did I mention I don't have a lawyer, I am not a lawyer, I can't afford a lawyer, and although I am eligible for legal aid there, they have refused to argue my case? ( no, huh? ) Did I also mention that their actions have (1) killed a small business I once operated because of credit issues (2) caused me to lose jobs because I was no longer eligible for the security clearance required for the job (3) I am forced to continue appearing in court which really ties up my abilities to get a regular job ( if there was one here that is worth a damn, which is why I would normally travel to make a living ). I find it ironic, that they can claim I did not file in a timely manner, seeing as this entire case has been protested from day one....but if you ask the questions, I'll give you the answers. Please...ask the questions. I need the input so I can get my briefs prepared within the next 15 days. I am sure I will miss a point or two, somewhere, that will be brought up. -- John - who is not looking forward to appearing before a state supreme court for child support he doesn't owe. "witchwirsen" wrote in message om... Speaking for women in general, not for myself alone...since we have SOOOOO many optioin in birth control I do visit the gyne twice a year for breast exams and pelivcs beause I am at a high risk for cancer. Better safe than sorry. Thyroid deficiency is the root of my excessive cycle. "Tiffany" wrote in message ... "witchwirsen" wrote in message om... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... "AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... Oh and I like to read about the woes of irresponsible women who haphazardly let any men they find appealing leave their reproductive cells in their receptacle. And then when the appeal wears off they whine about having to provide support to the life they created. But wait! Women have more choices than that! Once the appeal wears off they can 1) go to planned parenthood and get the morning after pill 2) go to planned parenthood and get RU486 3) get an abortion 4) give birth and give it up for adoption 5) give birth, play mommy for a couple days and drop the kid off at a hospital or firestation. Sounds like you are jealous. We can have sex and have more choices than you. You're just mad because you can't get it on without worry worry worry. I'll make a deal with you Bob. Any time you want to trade your assured orgasm for the female IFFY one, and any time you want to trade your virtually no bother reproductive organs for my bleeding uterus which has to be prodded and poked by some doctor a couple times of year but more often than that if I happen to get pregnant I will so trade with you. A couple times a year???? You must have some serious medical issues if you have to go to the gyno a couple times a year. Just to sweeten the deal I will let you have my cramps AND pay your child support. Then after a few years you can tell me how you like BC pills, creams, gyno appointments, diaphragms, IUD's, labor, nausea, breast exams, being unable to have sex for 8 whole days a month (not to ention the MESSSS!!!! EWWWW) and the expense of keeping up with the medical needs of thse organs. You use ALL these BC methods? Wow. No wonder you have medical issues. And EIGHT whole days..... do you excercise at all? Perhaps I would recommend you see an accupuncturist if you have so many issues. It can definitely help. T |
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New and help needed ( was The root of all evil )
I'm in Nebraska, the other state is Iowa, and yes, I qualify for legal
aid, but they have refused to argue my case, and the legal aid office heads the Iowa Volunteer Lawyers, so I got the same clod lawyer. All they want me to do is sign an agreement to pay, and they'll represent me for that. No thanks. Another bill I don't need. Yes, I can figure this stuff out, but it has been contested since they first contacted me about it, and so they know they don't have jurisdiction, but refuse to acknowledge it. Instead, they claim I moved to Florida when they started this, but the evidence doesn't prove that out either, as I travel a lot for work. They had actually started collections 13 months before even notifying me that they were doing so. Instead they had waited until I was conveniently in Florida, and claim I moved. Nice, huh? The law still isn't on their side by records, receipts, or statutes of Nebraska code defining residency ( Sorry, Iowa ). It really needs to be here to be argued, but they won't let it come here, because they know they have no case. It needs to be heard by the feds, so they are doing their best to keep it in Iowa. The word is "abuse of office"and "abuse of law", but since I am pro se, they aren't listening. They have been presented the facts and evidence and have ignored it. What I really need is attention drawn to what they are doing and getting a few people adequately ****ed to go to action and protest the abuse. It is typical Iowa procedure, and I know you won't believe this, but years ago, when women's lib was rabid here, women were advised to go to Iowa for divorce, and for the very reasons I am having problems. Sad but true, the counselors were actually advising women to move to Iowa to get divorced. I'm not a woman basher, but I could be a poster boy for abuse. I've been through 3 divorces. I'll pick a Nebraska divorce every time over what I'm seeing elsewhere. You may get screwed, but you'll get screwed fairly. So, John is your husband....I gathered as much. I was getting confused, but since you identified yourself as a woman, I had to go with that. I did meet a Jonni once. Cute young thing, med tech, very friendly. Smart? I did mention I have been married 3X right? I only have a 145 IQ....I'm not too overly bright. I keep believing I have time to get it right and still screwed it up. It might help if problems with this ex would at least clear up and finally go away. It's her last shot and end game. I can only hope that she gets a taste of this when I get done. The karmic debt from this 8 year old action of hers is mounting. "witchwirsen" wrote in message om... My levels are improving, with MUCH toying with the hormones. My name is not John, my husband is John, we share an e-mail account. I'm disgusted that the two states would allow such a thing to happen. I myself can only suggest that you do your best to convey, in your hearing, that you have evidence to the facts you state here. I would be compelled to submit that evidence...where did you say you live? Pro Per is easy in California. Seems like you are pretty smart. If you were able to figue out what exact statutes were broken then I am confident that you would be able to file forms and defend yourself, I know it can be hard, it took me 9 months to complete my divorce and hours upon hours hunched over books at the law library, but it can be done. PS, If you qualify Legal Aid in your area can provide you with an attorney to defend you, or possibly advice on how to defend yourself, have you called them? It is much easier to get legal aid to take a case when you are the defendant than it is when you are the plaintiff. There are income guidelines, but it sounds as if you may indeed qualify. Wish you luck, keep us informed. PS, sometimes you can find a lot of info at Nolo "John Riggs" wrote in message ews.com... ah, now I understand...( doggonit, you keep writing stuff to keep me from lurking ) Yes, that hypothyroidism will get you every time. Any luck getting stable? I know all too well about those doctor visits with hypothyroidism, ulcerative colitis, asthma, and a host of a few other wonder autoimmune issues. BTW, I don't recall ever seeing any women named John ( your addy ). Since you managed to get me to delurk, any clues on how a guy should proceed in an appeal to a state supreme court to get them to undo the screw up they created almost 8 years ago? My wonderful ex started a separate case in a neighboring state for child support while my son was attending school there and staying with her ( call it an effort to improve his scholastic performance and behavioral issues ). I had legal custody, I paid her for his expenses and an amount equal to the amount she had to pay me for support here. ( Basically, what she did is forum shopping, forbidden under 28 USC 1738A ). The other state created a separate case without notifying this state ( forbidden under 28 USC 1738B ). The two states are neighboring states and a mileage difference of only 50 miles. She needed to file her case here, but she chose the other state. Why you ask? Because she owed me over $1000 in arrears, and she would not be allowed to file in this state for custody ( Oh, I forgot mention that part? ). Yes, she also got the other state to give her custody. Is it legal, you ask? No, but they other state is not recognizing the original decree, or the continuing exclusive jurisdiction of this state, making all of their claims bogus. They are hounding *me*, and you won't even believe to what extent, for $23,044.35 in a child support arrearage that does not exist. So why hasn't this state said anything? Try as I may, this state seems to be ignorant of the existence of the other state's case and claim. Why? I don't know. I do know I paid all support here, plus additional amounts ( recorded with the clerk of the court here as CS payments to her there ). She is claiming CS in two states simultaneously on the same two children. Suffice it to say, the records exist to show overwhelming evidence to support my case, but, I was just denied it being vacated, because it is too late ( 6 years from a default judgment...ask me about that one please. You won't believe that story ) to file a motion in this case. (???????), it's bogus and they know it, but the court refuses to accept it. So, now that they wasted as much time as possible in notifying me of their decision, I had the weekend ( yeah, all weekend ) to create an appeal. The other state had only left me a two day response time in which to file an appeal. Did I mention I don't have a lawyer, I am not a lawyer, I can't afford a lawyer, and although I am eligible for legal aid there, they have refused to argue my case? ( no, huh? ) Did I also mention that their actions have (1) killed a small business I once operated because of credit issues (2) caused me to lose jobs because I was no longer eligible for the security clearance required for the job (3) I am forced to continue appearing in court which really ties up my abilities to get a regular job ( if there was one here that is worth a damn, which is why I would normally travel to make a living ). I find it ironic, that they can claim I did not file in a timely manner, seeing as this entire case has been protested from day one....but if you ask the questions, I'll give you the answers. Please...ask the questions. I need the input so I can get my briefs prepared within the next 15 days. I am sure I will miss a point or two, somewhere, that will be brought up. -- John - who is not looking forward to appearing before a state supreme court for child support he doesn't owe. "witchwirsen" wrote in message om... Speaking for women in general, not for myself alone...since we have SOOOOO many optioin in birth control I do visit the gyne twice a year for breast exams and pelivcs beause I am at a high risk for cancer. Better safe than sorry. Thyroid deficiency is the root of my excessive cycle. "Tiffany" wrote in message ... "witchwirsen" wrote in message om... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... "AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... Oh and I like to read about the woes of irresponsible women who haphazardly let any men they find appealing leave their reproductive cells in their receptacle. And then when the appeal wears off they whine about having to provide support to the life they created. But wait! Women have more choices than that! Once the appeal wears off they can 1) go to planned parenthood and get the morning after pill 2) go to planned parenthood and get RU486 3) get an abortion 4) give birth and give it up for adoption 5) give birth, play mommy for a couple days and drop the kid off at a hospital or firestation. Sounds like you are jealous. We can have sex and have more choices than you. You're just mad because you can't get it on without worry worry worry. I'll make a deal with you Bob. Any time you want to trade your assured orgasm for the female IFFY one, and any time you want to trade your virtually no bother reproductive organs for my bleeding uterus which has to be prodded and poked by some doctor a couple times of year but more often than that if I happen to get pregnant I will so trade with you. A couple times a year???? You must have some serious medical issues if you have to go to the gyno a couple times a year. Just to sweeten the deal I will let you have my cramps AND pay your child support. Then after a few years you can tell me how you like BC pills, creams, gyno appointments, diaphragms, IUD's, labor, nausea, breast exams, being unable to have sex for 8 whole days a month (not to ention the MESSSS!!!! EWWWW) and the expense of keeping up with the medical needs of thse organs. You use ALL these BC methods? Wow. No wonder you have medical issues. And EIGHT whole days..... do you excercise at all? Perhaps I would recommend you see an accupuncturist if you have so many issues. It can definitely help. T |
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Bob wrote in message ...
Phil #3 wrote: [Piggybacking since I couldn't find the original article] "witchwirsen" wrote in message .com... [snip] BTW....give birth, play mommy for a couple days and drop the kid off at a hospital or firestation. ----- I am quite sure that does not happen as often as you would have someone believe. In 1998 it s estimated to have happened a little over 30,000 times, up from 21,600 in 1991. Since the law has become effective in 34 states starting in 1999, I wonder how much it has grown since then and I feel sure you can bet it has gone up. http://www.acf.hhs.gov/news/stats/abandon.htm Phil #3 Before the drop-off laws mommies were just dropping their babies in the nearest dumpster. It's better, but still no father has similar rights. Bob -- When did we divide into sides? "As president, I will put American government and our legal system back on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/ [Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.] Well Bob, if the injustice of it all bothers you so badly why don't you sit your self down and write a bill? Maybe you can even get it passed. You could call it the 'daddy dodges' bill. Personally I don't care what men do with thier kids. Dump them on a door step, don't pay child support, whatever, I never needed a man to help me with mine. Yeah, yeah, I know feminazi blah blah blah. Can't you find something else to bitch about? Maybe gas prices or the Taliban? God, it's really almost like you are jealous that women can do things you can't. |
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