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"Karen O'Mara" wrote in message om... "Tiffany" wrote in message ... yeah right Paul........ you really think the system would do that? lol (make the mother pay support) How you doing by the way? I think the system does make the mother pay child support, if she works and earns money. Karen They do. V |
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"MissMissy657" wrote in message ... Hi I am Missy and new to this newsgroup. I have been reading your messages and I feel for the situation that you are in. I am a single mother of three wonderful children. I do not receive support from their father nor do I fight for it right now. I am very lucky to have my parents. They allowed me to move back in with them and they are helping me out just as you are supporting your daughter and grandchild. They way that you explained how the father acted to me is he really doesn't want the baby and he is only doing it out of anger that he has to actually support the baby. Hang in there it will work out. I know that where I am from it takes a lot to take a baby away from a mother who has a network of support as she does. Just fight for that baby because it sound that she is in ahome that wants her and loves her. Not somwhere just because. Welcome! V, mom to 9 y.o. girl and 11 y.o. boy |
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"V" wrote in message ... "Bebelestrnge0721" wrote in message ... snip facts Guess not, guess it has to be a fight now.This is a damn shame. Bev Judges see this often. The father sues for 'custody' when pressed for child support. The father has just received 'standing' when sued for child support. Prior to that, the mother retainins an 'ownership' postition that is almost imppossible to overcome in court. You hang in there Bev. Your daughter is on the track to recovery and therapy is important to her now. And is obviously in no position to properly care for a child I will keep you in my thoughts and send you good vibes. Keep enabling the dysfunctional......smart move.....................NOT (((((BEV))))))) V |
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:04:23 -0500, "Tiffany"
wrote: "Cele" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:51:09 -0500, "Tiffany" wrote: "Karen O'Mara" wrote in message e.com... "Tiffany" wrote in message ... yeah right Paul........ you really think the system would do that? lol (make the mother pay support) How you doing by the way? I think the system does make the mother pay child support, if she works and earns money. Karen No, typically the CS system is sexist. Do some research if you like. Don't assume just because it should be that way that it is. If a mother is told to pay support, it is also typically lower then when the tables are turned. T Not here. Here we have a table. Across the top is the province/territory of residence, and down the side is the income level of the noncustodial parent. Embedded are figures at each level for each number of kids up to, as I remember, four, and after that the additional amount. It's applied to determine the amount expected of a noncustodial parent, regardless of gender. When it came in about ten years ago it took a lot of unnecessary rubbish out of the courts. Cele Tables or not, judges can make there own ruling. I am not going to get into a major thing about the CS system, that is better done elsewhere. I use to think things were equal but have since found out they are not. Ooopp..... you are way up north??? I forgot. Up there, things might be very different. Tiff Canada, Tiff. Whole other country. Cele |
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:50:45 -0500, "P.Fritz"
wrote: "Tiffany" wrote in message ... "Cele" wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:51:09 -0500, "Tiffany" wrote: "Karen O'Mara" wrote in message le.com... "Tiffany" wrote in message ... yeah right Paul........ you really think the system would do that? lol (make the mother pay support) How you doing by the way? I think the system does make the mother pay child support, if she works and earns money. Karen No, typically the CS system is sexist. Do some research if you like. Don't assume just because it should be that way that it is. If a mother is told to pay support, it is also typically lower then when the tables are turned. T Not here. Here we have a table. Across the top is the province/territory of residence, and down the side is the income level of the noncustodial parent. Embedded are figures at each level for each number of kids up to, as I remember, four, and after that the additional amount. It's applied to determine the amount expected of a noncustodial parent, regardless of gender. When it came in about ten years ago it took a lot of unnecessary rubbish out of the courts. Cele Tables or not, judges can make there own ruling. I am not going to get into a major thing about the CS system, that is better done elsewhere. I use to think things were equal but have since found out they are not. Ooopp..... you are way up north??? I forgot. Up there, things might be very different. Here in the states at least.......women are far less likely to be pursued for CS than men.......and women are more likely to be ordered to pay less than the guidelines. But there are other countries in the world, and I live in one of them. Cele |
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"Cele" wrote in message ... On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:50:45 -0500, "P.Fritz" wrote: "Tiffany" wrote in message ... "Cele" wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:51:09 -0500, "Tiffany" wrote: "Karen O'Mara" wrote in message gle.com... "Tiffany" wrote in message ... yeah right Paul........ you really think the system would do that? lol (make the mother pay support) How you doing by the way? I think the system does make the mother pay child support, if she works and earns money. Karen No, typically the CS system is sexist. Do some research if you like. Don't assume just because it should be that way that it is. If a mother is told to pay support, it is also typically lower then when the tables are turned. T Not here. Here we have a table. Across the top is the province/territory of residence, and down the side is the income level of the noncustodial parent. Embedded are figures at each level for each number of kids up to, as I remember, four, and after that the additional amount. It's applied to determine the amount expected of a noncustodial parent, regardless of gender. When it came in about ten years ago it took a lot of unnecessary rubbish out of the courts. Cele Tables or not, judges can make there own ruling. I am not going to get into a major thing about the CS system, that is better done elsewhere. I use to think things were equal but have since found out they are not. Ooopp..... you are way up north??? I forgot. Up there, things might be very different. Here in the states at least.......women are far less likely to be pursued for CS than men.......and women are more likely to be ordered to pay less than the guidelines. But there are other countries in the world, and I live in one of them. Never said you didn't Cele |
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"Bebelestrnge0721" wrote in message ... Subject: what do you think? From: "Tiffany" Date: 11/16/2004 7:53 AM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: "Bebelestrnge0721" wrote in message ... Subject: what do you think? From: 'Kate Date: 11/15/2004 3:36 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:28:04 -0500, "Tiffany" wrote: You suck! lol T Oh god.. I hope he does! yeah but I've heard he sucks at sucking don't waist yer time, he'll leave ya hanging, and god that sucks ! AS does our situation, which sucks that these two suckers had to take it off topic in thier sucky sucked up way. Ya know whether or not I am metally ill (which I am not) or my daughter is mentally ill , we love this baby with all our hearts, Paul has disliked me from day one and I really don't care, I expected him to be the asshole he is. Tomorrow we will fight the fight many parents have fought, It is heart breaking to everyone , If my daughter losses her baby because of her mental health, I will hurt for her as any mother would for thier childs pain, Is it possible, yeah it is, it hurts, it hurts a lot, and it sucks that Paul and Tiff suck and you are so hard up for it you lost compassion. So if "What you think" about what is happening for us is you pray to a god you don't believe in that Paul "sucks" Well thanks for your advice Kate, but I'm sucked fine , he is all yours. 'K What the hell is your problem? Paul commented to me that he was going to the islands for the new year and I said he sucks. There was no sexual innuendo there..... Kate made the extra comment. He did not take it off topic, he told you exactly how he felt. That hurt I am sure but his thinking might be the JUDGES thinking too. Better get use to it. T Come on Tiff, stop playing that that was an all sweet non-sexual comment from Kate. I am sorry if I misunderstood your intentions of the word, but I know what Kate meant...heh.. she is like that, she likes to play. I am upset with her choice to use my thread to do so. I am sure she might have been playing around.... so what? Its wrong to make a joke in the mist of a serious situation? BTW, I wasn't playing that it was a non-sexual comment from Kate. I was stating that it didn't start out as anything other then me telling Paul he sucks for going to the islands. This is Usenet, anyone can make any comment in any thread. It was not inappropriate either. I would have replied to Kate's joking but I am trying to keep my hormones under control. T |
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"P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "CME" wrote in message news:tPamd.157259$df2.38754@edtnps89... "P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "Tiffany" wrote in message ... "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "Karen O'Mara" wrote in message om... (Bebelestrnge0721) wrote in message ... Hi all that are aware of our situation. A turn of events hit our household last night when we picked up the mail. Seems after almost 11 months, and two weeks [snip] It's seems possible to me that the paternal grandparents are not materialistic and are petitioning with genuine intentions for the sake of the baby. Your daughter does not seem fit to be a mother right now. If you feel you are fit, perhaps you should try and adopt the baby. Karen That is not an option because it would require consent from the father. I would say it is better than 50/50 odds that primary custody will be awarded to father at this point, and the mother will be required to pay child support. yeah right Paul........ you really think the system would do that? lol (make the mother pay support) I should have said 'ordered'.......they will order CS from the mom, but doubtful they would enforce it. How you doing by the way? Hanging in there........doing lots of chauffeur work LOL. Looking forward to New Yeas in the Carribean again :-) Can I come? ~bats eyelashes~ You trying to make Tiff jealous again? LOL Christine Again, I am trying to keep the hormones in check. I will not play this game.... not today. ps..... how many times must I tell you, I am not the jealous type. Now back off Christine! jk hun T |
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"P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "Tiffany" wrote in message ... "Bebelestrnge0721" wrote in message ... Subject: what do you think? From: "P.Fritz" Date: 11/15/2004 5:09 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: "Tiffany" wrote in message ... "Karen O'Mara" wrote in message om... "Tiffany" wrote in message ... yeah right Paul........ you really think the system would do that? lol (make the mother pay support) How you doing by the way? I think the system does make the mother pay child support, if she works and earns money. Karen No, typically the CS system is sexist. Do some research if you like. Don't assume just because it should be that way that it is. If a mother is told to pay support, it is also typically lower then when the tables are turned. And enforcement is next to non existent. It takes a while but they catch up with the deadbeats ! LMAO....... sometimes. They really don't pursue women as hard as men though. Research it. Cripes she is clueless.............they don't give a crap about low income individuals.........the dirty little secret is that the CS agencies get a kickback from the state and feds for every dollar of CS they collect. It costs them more chasing the low incomes than what they get back, so the aggresvely pursue the high income cases. One really doesn't get it until they talk to people and look into it. I thought it was a fair system at one point too. Education is the key here. T |
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