Will the court allow me to refuse child support?

"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in message
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wrote:
Apologies if this is not the right forum for this question, but I am
hoping someone will know the answer. My soon to be ex and I live on
separate coasts and have just filed for divorce. He has more
financial resources than I do so fighting this would be nearly
impossible for me. Basically what transpired before the paperwork was
signed was he emailed me saying if I did not sign a paper saying I
will forgo any support ordered by the court and that I will never at
any future time seek any support from him, then he would fight me for
custody of our youngest child. Again I don't have the resources to
hire an attorney, let alone fly cross country to fight this. So my
question is: If he presents this in court, will the judge say ok, no
child support needed here? The state the petition is filed in is West
Virginia. Any help any one can provide is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
Do not sign anything until a court clerk hands down an order from a judge.
Your ex is just trying to bully you. Unfortunately for him, and others
like
him, (according to all the loons on here), the mother will get custody not
matter how much the father spends on a lawyer. If you're not a drunk, a
druggie, and have a home for you and your child to live, you should not
have
a problem keeping your child.
What you need to do is file for child support, and custody in the state
where you currently are so that the child support office will appoint you
a
representative.
By the way, this is the wrong place to ask for useful or helpful info
concerning child support and/or custody if you are a woman, and mother.
The
people on here have claimed this is their domain, and it is only for non
custodial parents, and men who feel that women have no right to ask for
child
support, let alone get it. You will get a lot of negative reinforcement,
but
just ignore it, and go file the paperwork today.
If you check back here later, you will probably see about 50 comments
bashing
me for giving you useful information.

Do you really think the responses to her so far have been negative and
bashing?

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ups.com...
Apologies if this is not the right forum for this question, but I am
hoping someone will know the answer. My soon to be ex and I live on
separate coasts and have just filed for divorce. He has more
financial resources than I do so fighting this would be nearly
impossible for me. Basically what transpired before the paperwork was
signed was he emailed me saying if I did not sign a paper saying I
will forgo any support ordered by the court and that I will never at
any future time seek any support from him, then he would fight me for
custody of our youngest child. Again I don't have the resources to
hire an attorney, let alone fly cross country to fight this. So my
question is: If he presents this in court, will the judge say ok, no
child support needed here? The state the petition is filed in is West
Virginia. Any help any one can provide is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

The basic situation probably is that, if this isn't contested in court,
you can say you don't want child support, get custody of the child, and then
later renege on your promise not to seek child support.

In my observation over many years, courts invariably say CS is owed to
the child, and the mother can't disclaim the money on the child's behalf.
(Of course, this is complete logical nonsense, and serves no purpose other
than to allow mothers to renege on promises that they have made--but that's
characteristic of domestic relations law in the U.S. is. The underlying
principle of this law is to allow as much freedom of action to mothers as
possible, where necessary at the expense of fathers--and children too, in
many cases, since children's interests are best served by growing up in
two-parent families, or by not being aborted.)

I'm not a lawyer, but the above comment is based on many years of
writing up court cases for a newsletter.

"Gini" wrote in

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Oh, good grief--Have you forgotten, all they have to do is write a letter?


Dear Mighty State Representative.

I hope I'm not bothering you with a concern.............

On Oct 17, 11:27 am, "Kenneth S." wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...

Apologies if this is not the right forum for this question, but I am
hoping someone will know the answer. My soon to be ex and I live on
separate coasts and have just filed for divorce. He has more
financial resources than I do so fighting this would be nearly
impossible for me. Basically what transpired before the paperwork was
signed was he emailed me saying if I did not sign a paper saying I
will forgo any support ordered by the court and that I will never at
any future time seek any support from him, then he would fight me for
custody of our youngest child. Again I don't have the resources to
hire an attorney, let alone fly cross country to fight this. So my
question is: If he presents this in court, will the judge say ok, no
child support needed here? The state the petition is filed in is West
Virginia. Any help any one can provide is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

The basic situation probably is that, if this isn't contested in court,
you can say you don't want child support, get custody of the child, and then
later renege on your promise not to seek child support.

In my observation over many years, courts invariably say CS is owed to
the child, and the mother can't disclaim the money on the child's behalf.
(Of course, this is complete logical nonsense, and serves no purpose other
than to allow mothers to renege on promises that they have made--but that's
characteristic of domestic relations law in the U.S. is. The underlying
principle of this law is to allow as much freedom of action to mothers as
possible, where necessary at the expense of fathers--and children too, in
many cases, since children's interests are best served by growing up in
two-parent families, or by not being aborted.)

I'm not a lawyer, but the above comment is based on many years of
writing up court cases for a newsletter.

It seems that when MEN ask for custody and decide to forgo CS,
the courts normally allow it though...and even if they don't, they do
nothing if the mother doesn't pay...However, it of course, doesn't
work
the other way around...

On Oct 17, 11:27 am, "Kenneth S." wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...

Apologies if this is not the right forum for this question, but I am
hoping someone will know the answer. My soon to be ex and I live on
separate coasts and have just filed for divorce. He has more
financial resources than I do so fighting this would be nearly
impossible for me. Basically what transpired before the paperwork was
signed was he emailed me saying if I did not sign a paper saying I
will forgo any support ordered by the court and that I will never at
any future time seek any support from him, then he would fight me for
custody of our youngest child. Again I don't have the resources to
hire an attorney, let alone fly cross country to fight this. So my
question is: If he presents this in court, will the judge say ok, no
child support needed here? The state the petition is filed in is West
Virginia. Any help any one can provide is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

The basic situation probably is that, if this isn't contested in court,
you can say you don't want child support, get custody of the child, and then
later renege on your promise not to seek child support.

In my observation over many years, courts invariably say CS is owed to
the child, and the mother can't disclaim the money on the child's behalf.
(Of course, this is complete logical nonsense, and serves no purpose other
than to allow mothers to renege on promises that they have made--but that's
characteristic of domestic relations law in the U.S. is. The underlying
principle of this law is to allow as much freedom of action to mothers as
possible, where necessary at the expense of fathers--and children too, in
many cases, since children's interests are best served by growing up in
two-parent families, or by not being aborted.)

I'm not a lawyer, but the above comment is based on many years of
writing up court cases for a newsletter.

It seems that when MEN ask for custody and decide to forgo CS,
the courts normally allow it though...and even if they don't, they do
nothing if the mother doesn't pay...However, it of course, doesn't
work
the other way around...

"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in

the mother will get custody no matter how much the father spends on a
lawyer.

Now didn't you just finish telling us it's possible for the father to get
custody in this fair system, so it's very possible she could lose custody
and be paying child support to the father?

Now the child is guaranteed a lifestyle in accordance to the parents total
income, so she could be paying a lot of money to assure the child keeps that
lifestyle.

DB wrote:
"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in

the mother will get custody no matter how much the father spends on a
lawyer.

Now didn't you just finish telling us it's possible for the father to get
custody in this fair system, so it's very possible she could lose custody
and be paying child support to the father?

Now the child is guaranteed a lifestyle in accordance to the parents total
income, so she could be paying a lot of money to assure the child keeps that
lifestyle.
Yada, yada, yada.....

If the mother is un-fit, and it is proven in court........

Once again, bits and pieces to suit yourself

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"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in message
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DB wrote:
"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in

the mother will get custody no matter how much the father spends on a
lawyer.

Now didn't you just finish telling us it's possible for the father to get
custody in this fair system, so it's very possible she could lose custody
and be paying child support to the father?

Now the child is guaranteed a lifestyle in accordance to the parents total
income, so she could be paying a lot of money to assure the child keeps
that
lifestyle.

Yada, yada, yada.....

If the mother is un-fit, and it is proven in court........

Once again, bits and pieces to suit yourself

So you admit custody always goes to the mother, unless proven in court that
she is unfit!

DB wrote:
"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in

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that
lifestyle.

Yada, yada, yada.....

If the mother is un-fit, and it is proven in court........

Once again, bits and pieces to suit yourself

So you admit custody always goes to the mother, unless proven in court that
she is unfit!
If the mother is fit to take care of the child, why would the child not be
able to stay with her? There are things a mother can do for her child that a
father can not, and then there is the bond between most mother's and children
that start in the womb.
If the mother is not un-fit, I see no reason to remove the child from her
care.

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teachrmama wrote:
Apologies if this is not the right forum for this question, but I am
hoping someone will know the answer. My soon to be ex and I live on
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bashing
me for giving you useful information.

Do you really think the responses to her so far have been negative and
bashing?
I am surprised that your people have been able to hold their name calling,
and woman bashing remarks in, but thay won't be able to to for long. It is
only a matter of time before they start with the name calling, and the whole
thing about only women make children, and rape is the womans fault, ect....
If this woman read half of the posts from your group, she would never return.


Did you see Gini's comment about black people, and how they should have to
sit in the back of the bus yet? Yeah, I pretty much know what type of people
I am dealing with around here.

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