Reason for weaning from bottle at 1 yo?

Truffles wrote in message ...
Sue wrote:
dejablues wrote:
Because, like toilet-training, there is a window of opportunity in
which a child is more amenable to change.


Truffles wrote in message
????? I don't understand the connection?


What don't you get? You don't understand the window of opportunity?

If you don't understand, then there are certain ages and stages that
children go through that they are more willing to have something changed.
Like introducing solids, weaning from the breast, potty training,
introducing a sippy cup. There are certain times in babies when something
can be changed and it is much easier to do rather than waiting later.

I've never potty trained a child before. I was under the assumption it
wasn't about windows of opportunity but about the child being ready for
the change. That is why I couldn't see the connection between potty
training and taking away a bottle.

I think the windows of opportunity are variable and depend more
on the particular child's development than a calendar. Like
everything else that they give you charts and approximate ages
for, individual children don't necessarily fit into the mold. Some
children are talking clearly at 18 months; others not until 3 -- and
they are all normal. Same with walking, talking, cutting teeth,
toilet training, and anything else you can think of. For a child who
has good/early fine motor skills and is already eating quite a bit of
table
food by a year, maybe weaning off the bottle is appropriate at
that time. Other children may still be almost exclusively
breastfeeding or bottle feeding at the same age. Deciding
that *they* need a cup at that time might not be so good for that
particular child's developmental timetable. I think it's good to
note the general "guidelines" and then see if they seem appropriate
for your own child. Some folks also have strong personal preferences
for certain things, like no pacifiers and whatnot, and others take
a more laissez faire approach. In the long run, I doubt that it
makes a great deal of difference.

Lynne
an arbitrary age

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OSPAM (Naomi Pardue) wrote:

Yeah, what's funny about that is I don't have a dishwasher either. I figured
I was the only one living in the dark ages ;o)
--

We don't have one either.

Anyone else absolultely HATE that commercial for, I think, Chinette paper
plates where the gist of it is that the act of actually scraping a few plates
and putting them in the dishwasher is SOOO time consuming and tiring that if
you are really a loving and caring mother, you will use paper plates instead
so
you can spend more quality time with your family? (Presumably the family has
also eaten take-out, since if they had actually cooked a meal, there would
STILL be pots to put in the dishwasher....)


Naomi
CAPPA Certified Lactation Educator

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reply.)

Then there's the fact that she could have more time with her family if
THEY HELPED WITH THE DISHES! Why on earth is she alone in the kitchen
while DH and children play in the other room? (To say nothing of all of
the other benefits of having everyone working together.)

If even three people work on it, dinner dishes for most meals can be
done in little more than 10 minutes. Even without a dishwasher, it
doesn't take all that long. (Ours has been broken for about two months;
it will be another month or so before we can get it fixed. We're
surviving, though I don't much like it.)

meh
--
Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 05:55:46 -0700, "Sue"
wrote:

Yeah, what's funny about that is I don't have a dishwasher either. I figured
I was the only one living in the dark ages ;o)

LOL! Okay... We live in a rented house. No dishwasher was here
when we moved in. No place to put a dishwasher as the kitchen is
REALLY, REALLY small. Handwashing is for the birds. Yep, there
are heaps of us living in the dark ages!

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==Daye==
E-mail: brendana AT labyrinth DOT net DOT au

Handwashing is for the birds. Yep, there

I've never had a dishwasher. (That's actually not true. THe apartment I lived
in for a couple of years had one, but it was so old and crappy that you had to
literally prewash the dishes before you put them in it, so it wasn't worth the
effort to even use it.)
While I'll admit that I do tend to let the dishes pile up, it's more a matter
of not liking to do housework in general than any particular dislike of washing
dishes. I really don't mind washing them. (I'd much rather wash dishes than
vacuum the floor or wash the windows or clean up cat puke or ... sigh.... pick
up the ceiling that is all over the living room floor right now. [DH decided to
replace part of the roof yesterday. After he removed it, he quit for the day.
Then it started to rain. Hard. Part of the ceiling is now on the floor. What
fun. [ANd yes, we were both up most of the night last night trying to protect
the furniture and book shevles and everything else from the rain pouring
in.]]])


Naomi
CAPPA Certified Lactation Educator

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reply.)

It isn't necessary to wean off of bottles to sippy cups (with valves).
I have weaned two of my children and am in the process of weaning my 9
month old over to what I call "drippy cups." These cups just have a
smaller opening. I think they require a bit more fine motor control,
but that isn't a bad thing. From there, more conservative experts
suggest switching to an open cup at 18 months.

Karen

So if the child is breastfed, and still nursing at say 16 months, it makes
sense that while their mom is at work the baby will still want its milk from
a bottle, as the baby is not weaning.

Except that a nursing toddler is MUCH less likely to develop any emotional
attachment to a bottle, and his/her mother is more likely to have stopped
offering a bottle. The only bottle-toting toddlers I've ever known or heard of
are those who *did* wean from the breast early or were switched to formula
before 1 year. The ones who are still breastfeeding at 16 months generally
aren't using bottles, because Mom has stopped pumping!

That was certainly the case for mine, anyway -- we never put anything other
than breastmilk in the bottles (and ebm was provided only in bottles). I
stopped pumping when DS was barely 13 months old (after a long, gradual process
of reducing the amount of ebm he got during the day) and he never had another
bottle. Didn't upset him in the slightest, and he was *not* drinking cows'
milk at the time either.

He shares his nanny with a FF girl -- same age, still getting some bottles
(though I don't know if they're formula or cows' milk). Now every time he sees
a bottle he identifies it as belonging to or being like those belonging to his
friend.

Holly
Mom to Camden, 2 yrs

Truffles wrote in message ...

Actually, I do have a dishwasher but I don't like to put the bottles,
rings, and nipples in it. I find the bottles don't work as well after
they've been in there. I also found the nipples deteriorate quicker.

As for sippy cups in the dishwasher, maybe it's the type I have but I
find they just don't get as clean as if I hand wash them. And with all
the nooks and crannies of the valves and lids to the sippy cups, I find
rinse water pooled in them. Yuck.

Yeah, we have the avent bottles and sippy cups, and the valves are
MUCH harder to get clean than the nipples. The nipples just go in the
top of the bottle basket. The valves, which work GREAT, have to be
taken apart to get clean. The valve must be removed from the spout,
and the valve itself should be taken apart (hard plastic disk and
silicon layer come apart) to get clean. I've not had trouble getting
either to work after being in dishwasher, so I've got no complaints.

Cathy Weeks
Mommy to Kivi Alexis 12/01

HollyLewis wrote:

So if the child is breastfed, and still nursing at say 16 months, it makes
sense that while their mom is at work the baby will still want its milk from
a bottle, as the baby is not weaning.


Except that a nursing toddler is MUCH less likely to develop any emotional
attachment to a bottle, and his/her mother is more likely to have stopped
offering a bottle. The only bottle-toting toddlers I've ever known or heard of
are those who *did* wean from the breast early or were switched to formula
before 1 year.

Mine have cow's milk in their bottles, they nursed a little past one
year, but they have no emotional attachment to their bottles because
they don't cart them around. They sit, drink, and then hand them to me
when done. So, I think it is possible to have weaned early and still
not develop an attachment to bottles.

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Brigitte aa #2145
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http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/joshuaandkaterina/

"Readers are plentiful; thinkers are rare."
~ Harriet Martineau

So, I think it is possible to have weaned early and still
not develop an attachment to bottles.

Oh, I didn't mean to imply otherwise. I said that all the bottle-toting
toddlers I've known have weaned or been weaned early, not that all early
weaners become bottle-toting toddlers. :-)

Holly
Mom to Camden, 2 yrs