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why do I have to give whole milk to my toddler?
Melissa wrote: Hello, I am delurking. I have a 16 month old girl, and don't understand this whole milk "push". It is the fat and calcium that the toddler's need, right? Can they not get this from other sources? My child does not like milk. I no longer breastfeed, but there are plently of other ways to get fat and calcium into her diet, aren't there? Every pedi visit I get asked how much whole milk is she getting, and I keep getting told she needs 16 ounces. Any thoughts on this? Fat, protein, and calcium. And yes, you can get them from other sources. If your child isn't dairy intolerant/sensitive, you can get them from other milk products, like yogurt and cheese. My 17-month-old does still nurse, but only 3-4 times in a 24-hour period, and I doubt seriously he's getting 16 oz. from me. (I could be wrong, of course.) He won't drink plain cow's milk, although he likes it with a little chocolate syrup - I would imagine anything that makes it a little sweeter would make it more palatable to a child. (I give him only a few ounces of this a few times a week, because I don't want him to get in the habit of wanting sweet drinks all the time. I don't worry about nutrients, though, because he eats anything that isn't nailed down, including other dairy products. Clisby Clisby |
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why do I have to give whole milk to my toddler?
Hello,
I am delurking. I have a 16 month old girl, and don't understand this whole milk "push". It is the fat and calcium that the toddler's need, right? Can they not get this from other sources? My child does not like milk. I no longer breastfeed, but there are plently of other ways to get fat and calcium into her diet, aren't there? Every pedi visit I get asked how much whole milk is she getting, and I keep getting told she needs 16 ounces. Any thoughts on this? |
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why do I have to give whole milk to my toddler?
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:01:21 GMT, Melissa wrotc:
Hello, I am delurking. I have a 16 month old girl, and don't understand this whole milk "push". It is the fat and calcium that the toddler's need, right? Can they not get this from other sources? My child does not like milk. I no longer breastfeed, but there are plently of other ways to get fat and calcium into her diet, aren't there? Every pedi visit I get asked how much whole milk is she getting, and I keep getting told she needs 16 ounces. Any thoughts on this? You are right - its the fat and calcium. And whole milk is the easiest way to get it I guess. If she does not like milk you always could modify the taste (throw in a banana and run it through the blender - or strawberries etc.) If not make sure she gets what she needs from other sources. As there are plenty of lactose intolerant people I am sure there are some diets out there where you can get all the nutrients she needs into her. I kept track to make sure they get a variety of stuff by making things available )still do) amd not making other "Bad" things available. But otherwise let them choose what to eat. Free Spirit DD(7) DS(10) |
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why do I have to give whole milk to my toddler?
Melissa wrote:
Hello, I am delurking. I have a 16 month old girl, and don't understand this whole milk "push". It is the fat and calcium that the toddler's need, right? Can they not get this from other sources? My child does not like milk. I no longer breastfeed, but there are plently of other ways to get fat and calcium into her diet, aren't there? Every pedi visit I get asked how much whole milk is she getting, and I keep getting told she needs 16 ounces. Any thoughts on this? I just asked a similar question on mkb, you might want to check out some of the answers, but what I got from there it is indeed the fat and calcium. The most important fat is the Omega-3, which is also plentyful in fish. I'd think there are many different ways to make sure your child has a balanced diet, and it is silly to measure a healthy diet with just the amount of whole milk a child consumes. But they have to set a standard somewhere, so you can just say 'yes' and do whatever you think is best. -- -- Ilse mom to Olaf (07/15/2002) TTC #2 "What's the use of brains if you are a girl?" Aletta Jacobs, first Dutch woman to receive a PhD |
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why do I have to give whole milk to my toddler?
"Melissa" wrote in message s.com... Hello, I am delurking. I have a 16 month old girl, and don't understand this whole milk "push". It is the fat and calcium that the toddler's need, right? Can they not get this from other sources? My child does not like milk. I no longer breastfeed, but there are plently of other ways to get fat and calcium into her diet, aren't there? Every pedi visit I get asked how much whole milk is she getting, and I keep getting told she needs 16 ounces. Any thoughts on this? I'd change ped's. You are correct - it is the easy availabilty of fat and calcium (as well as various other vitamins and nutrients) that makes whole milk such a "good thing". My DD was intolerant to cow's milk proteins as a nursing infant and whenever we attempted to give them to her as a baby and toddler until recently. At 22 months she is still nursing but I've recently had a new baby. As my milk started to change to colostrum in pregnancy I asked my ped about the "need" for milk and he laughed at me. Told me to make sure she got some good fatty foods and to label watch for calcium. If I felt she wasn't getting enough calcium he said to give her a Tums or two per day which I did. If I felt she wasn't getting enough other vitamins he said to feel free to give her a kids multi-vit. I bought a bottle but she's got a good diet so she only gets one occassionally and she thinks of it as a treat. Honestly, I would find another pediatrician who doesn't push something on you without giving you a *very* good reason but some may feel thats going too far in an instance like this. Rhiannon Madison Sophia - 9/6/01 Owen Grady - 6/23/03 |
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why do I have to give whole milk to my toddler?
Melissa wrote in message ws.com...
Hello, I am delurking. I have a 16 month old girl, and don't understand this whole milk "push". It is the fat and calcium that the toddler's need, right? Can they not get this from other sources? My child does not like milk. I no longer breastfeed, but there are plently of other ways to get fat and calcium into her diet, aren't there? Every pedi visit I get asked how much whole milk is she getting, and I keep getting told she needs 16 ounces. Any thoughts on this? Hi Melissa, My DS is allergic to dairy, so he has never had milk or other dairy products. You are right - there are other ways to get fat and calcium in their diets. I think alot of people like milk because it is easy and reliable, and of course, their kids like it. But for children who either don't like milk, or can't drink milk (and I think the two are related), you have to be more creative. I have always found the fat intake a non-issue. My son loves meat of any kind, will eat pasta/bread with olive oil drizzled on it, adores fattier fish like salmon, and some of the other "non-traditional" fats, like avocados. He also is a french fry fiend, and loves potato chips, tortilla chips, etc. We have always tried to push the healthy heart fats first, and he has always been accomodating, but we also let him enjoy an occasional treat of the "bad" fats as well. Of course, if your DD will eat other dairy, like cheese or yogurt, that is a good source of both calcium and fat. The calcium issue was much trickier for us, because of the dairy allergy. If your daughter will eat other dairy, again like cheese, or yogurt, then I would push these. Calcium fortified OJ is a really good source; my DS has 6 ounces in the morning with his breakfast. Other non-dairy sources include chickpeas (will she eat hummus - my DS loves hummus with crackers), spinach, broccoli, canned salmon, refried beans, tofu, dried apricots, dried beans. DS is now a healthy and very active three year old, at the top of the charts in both weight and height, without ever consuming milk. This of course doesn't stop my MIL from asking every time she calls, "Has he started drinking milk yet?" - this despite the fact that she knows he is allergic! I guess old habits die hard! HTH, Sharon Mom to James 6.2.00 EDD #2 5 December |
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why do I have to give whole milk to my toddler?
Melissa wrote:
I have a 16 month old girl, and don't understand this whole milk "push". It is the fat and calcium that the toddler's need, right? Can they not get this from other sources? Of course. Milk is just a convenient nutritional package. I've compared it before to people saying "Oh, if you live in Minnesota you MUST have a winter coat." Well, that isn't entirely true. You could get by with long underwear, layers of sweaters, and a waterproof jacket on top. It isn't the way most people would choose to do it, but if you were going to live in Minnesota for only one winter, and you already owned lots of things to layer and you didn't want to buy a big expensive winter coat, you could get by fine. In any case cow's milk doesn't have the really good fatty acids anyway. --Helen |
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why do I have to give whole milk to my toddler?
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:13:58 -0700, "Sue"
wrote: You don't have to give her milk. Yes, whole milk given to toddlers until about age two (my girls are 10, 6 and 8 and still drink whole milk) because of the calcium and fat that is needed for brain growth. Will your daughter drink milk if you make it chocolate? But, you don't have to give her milk and can certainly find other things to fill in for the milk. If you want to try other sources, that's fine, but you will have to make sure that it is in the recommended amount needed for your daughter's age group. I doubt that your daughter could eat a whole cup of broccoli to get the recommended amount, but you can try different things throughout the day and hopefully that will be enough. -- Sue mom to three girls Interestingly, considering Barbara's asthma attack, I just found this new study. I can't vouch for it because I haven't read the full text of the study itself, but it seems to say that children who drink whole milk and use butter actually have a reduced chance of developing asthma later on. I agree, btw, that you don't have to give a child who dislikes milk, milk to drink. I suspect that there are ways of getting the fats and calcium children need other than milk. http://www.asthma.org.uk/news/news81.php Full-cream milk, butter and brown bread can help to reduce the risk of asthma symptoms in young children, according to new research. A study of 2,978 children, born within six months of each other, followed their progress between the ages of two to three, collecting and analysing data on their food intake and asthma symptoms. Researchers found that the children who consumed full-cream milk and butter every day as part of their diet were less likely to have asthma symptoms than those who ate it less frequently. Brown bread was also found to be associated with lower rates of asthma and wheeze when eaten every day. National Asthma Campaign experts have welcomed the study but cautioned that links between diet and asthma are still largely unknown. The study, carried out in the Netherlands, also looked at other foods, including semi-skimmed milk, dairy products such as yoghurt and chocolate milk, white bread, margarine, cheese, fruit and vegetables. Levels of asthma prevalence were split into three categories: those who had experienced asthma symptoms at some point in their lives; those who had recently experienced symptoms; and those who had recently experienced wheeze. Full-fat milk and butter consistently featured more regularly in the diets of children who had fewer symptoms in each of these categories. Professor Martyn Partridge, the National Asthma Campaign's chief medical adviser, commented: 'This is an interesting study showing an association between eating brown bread and milk products and a lower prevalence of asthma and wheezing. Whether the association is real and causally related or whether it reflects some other shared lifestyle change is not clear but it is one of a large number of recent studies suggesting associations between nutrition and lung health.' The researchers admit that lifestyle could have played a part in the findings. For example, families who eat brown bread rather than white may have healthier habits that were not taken into consideration in the study, which could be responsible for reducing the risk of asthma. However, previously researchers have found correlations between consumption of full cream milk and low incidence of asthma symptoms in young children. Studies have also suggested that the increase of asthma in the western world may be due to a greater intake of polyunsaturated fats in our diets. Milk and butter are both high in saturated fat. Professor Partridge added: 'The increasing prevalence of asthma almost certainly reflects multiple lifestyle changes over the last three decades. Nutrition may be one such change, but there is too little data yet to enable us to give concrete dietary advice as to how to eat to avoid asthma.' Anne Pearson, a nurse on the Campaign's Asthma Helpline, agreed: 'Foods generally are not common triggers for asthma. It's very important that children have a well balanced diet, and dairy products play an important role in this as they are a vital source of calcium, riboflavin, protein and vitamins A and B12. 'There's a common myth that drinking milk produces mucus in the airways,' she added, 'but this is not the case: it just thickens the saliva temporarily. If you suspect that food is causing a problem for your child, you should keep a food and symptom diary for a period of time, then take it to your GP.' -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. Outer Limits |
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why do I have to give whole milk to my toddler?
You don't have to give her milk. Yes, whole milk given to toddlers until
about age two (my girls are 10, 6 and 8 and still drink whole milk) because of the calcium and fat that is needed for brain growth. Will your daughter drink milk if you make it chocolate? But, you don't have to give her milk and can certainly find other things to fill in for the milk. If you want to try other sources, that's fine, but you will have to make sure that it is in the recommended amount needed for your daughter's age group. I doubt that your daughter could eat a whole cup of broccoli to get the recommended amount, but you can try different things throughout the day and hopefully that will be enough. -- Sue mom to three girls Melissa wrote in message s.com... Hello, I am delurking. I have a 16 month old girl, and don't understand this whole milk "push". It is the fat and calcium that the toddler's need, right? Can they not get this from other sources? My child does not like milk. I no longer breastfeed, but there are plently of other ways to get fat and calcium into her diet, aren't there? Every pedi visit I get asked how much whole milk is she getting, and I keep getting told she needs 16 ounces. Any thoughts on this? |
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why do I have to give whole milk to my toddler?
I have a 16 month old girl, and don't understand this
whole milk "push". It is the fat and calcium that the toddler's need, right? Can they not get this from other sources? My child does not like milk. I no longer breastfeed, but there are plently of other ways to get fat and calcium into her diet, aren't there? Every pedi visit I get asked how much whole milk is she getting, and I keep getting told she needs 16 ounces. Any thoughts on this? You are absolutely correct. I *am* still breastfeeding, and DS eats lots of cheese. My ped suggested, in view of those facts, that we give DS 2% milk rather than whole milk. shrug Clearly it's a judgment call. Fortunately, DS isn't picky. We do give him mostly 2% but sometimes he wants to drink *my* nonfat milk, and if whole or 1% is what's available in a given situation, he'll drink that too. And I've certainly never been advised of any particular number of ounces that a child should drink. Does your doctor also advise that your daughter should consume exactly so many grams of bananas a day? I mean, it's ridiculous. It can be a little difficult, though far from impossible, to get enough calcium from non-dairy sources. If your daughter likes cheese, though, that'll do it. Or yogurt. Holly Mom to Camden, 2 yrs |
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