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Prime example of why I hate other parents...
"L." wrote in message oups.com... Tori M wrote: Lyn is a Childfree Wannabe. She calls the rest of us Breeder Cows. She's Perfect because she adopted a child and doesn't let him eat in public because she thinks children in restaurants are the nth level of Hell. LOL And sometimes it can be. What most people do not understand is the parent with the screaming kid is praying that the wait staff will bring the check RIGHT NOW. We get out of the habit of all eating at the table from time to time, and when we do the kids do awful eating out. The more we eat at the table the better they do eating out. Tori Nan is talking out her ass. We do eat out as a family but only on Family Night at a certain restaurant. And we would leave if DS became disruptive. I have seen parents not care of their kids disrupt others. To me, that's the epitome of restaurant rudeness. AND it teaches your children the wrong lesson, that it is Ok to be inconsiderate of others and that their behavior has no impact. -L. |
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Prime example of why I hate other parents...
"Knit Chic" wrote in message m... "L." wrote in message oups.com... Tori M wrote: Lyn is a Childfree Wannabe. She calls the rest of us Breeder Cows. She's Perfect because she adopted a child and doesn't let him eat in public because she thinks children in restaurants are the nth level of Hell. LOL And sometimes it can be. What most people do not understand is the parent with the screaming kid is praying that the wait staff will bring the check RIGHT NOW. We get out of the habit of all eating at the table from time to time, and when we do the kids do awful eating out. The more we eat at the table the better they do eating out. Tori Nan is talking out her ass. We do eat out as a family but only on Family Night at a certain restaurant. And we would leave if DS became disruptive. I have seen parents not care of their kids disrupt others. To me, that's the epitome of restaurant rudeness. -L. There are all kinds of disruptions in the world ... a lot of people need to get over themselves. My daughter has a disability and not a disability that everyone can see. If she has issues in a public area, I will remove her from that public area if it benefits her. I'm not going to remove her from an area that she is legally permitted to be in for any other reason, even if that means she is "disrupting" someone else. Some adults need to learn tolerance just as much as some children need to learn what is tolerable. I think the expectation of distruption is part of the issue. At Friendly's or a McDonald's, particularly with a playland, there is an expectation of disruption. At Chez Robert, to make a silly extreme example, there is not. |
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Prime example of why I hate other parents...
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:18:49 GMT, "StephanieTheGoofy"
wrote: I think the expectation of distruption is part of the issue. At Friendly's or a McDonald's, particularly with a playland, there is an expectation of disruption. At Chez Robert, to make a silly extreme example, there is not. No kidding! So far this entire thread has mentioned nothing but Family type restaurants. Lyn decided to make the leap into demanding an intimate dinner. As I said, if she wants an intimate dinner at a family restaurant, that's pitiful. Nan |
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Prime example of why I hate other parents...
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:18:48 -0500, "Tori M"
wrote: wrote in message oups.com... 0tterbot wrote: no, the zoo owns the meerkats, the zoo allows admission. the child poked the meerkats. the meerkat bit the child. NONE of this has to do with the parents. you just want to make up a reason it's their fault because you "hate parents"? no zoo = no incident, OR, no kid = no incident. buggered if i can work out how it's the parents' fault. Did you even read the article? The kid climbed on a display that was clearly marked DO NOT CLIMB ON ROCKS, stuck her hand through a small hole in the barrier and tried to pet the animals. THAT is how she got bitten. Pure negligence by whomever was supervising the child. ACTUALY on the news that I have watched for days (we get twin cities news)at the begining the rocks where ment to be climbed on. the do not climb on rocks sign was added later. Okay, here's a response Lyn will love: "But it's CLEAR the zoo HAD to add the sign because the Entiltmoo Breeders were too STUPID to teach BRATLEIGH that she shouldn't climb on the rocks!!!!!" Nan |
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Prime example of why I hate other parents...
In article U2ZCg.7634$z12.4360@trndny02, StephanieTheGoofy says...
I phoned a restaurant recently that we had never been to before to ask of children were welcome. The host or whatever did not really know what I meant. He said we have things on the menu that children might find appealing yadda yadda. I said no that's not what I mean. Do children and families frequent the restaurant enough that this is the kind of place where other patrons expect it? Or are the patrons looking for their relaxed, quiet, romantic dinner? He paused for a minute and said "No one has ever asked me that before." He then tried to very graciously tell me it was really the latter without telling me we were unwelcome. And thanked me profusely for my concern.... I think that some people assume that everywhere is appropriate for their children if *they* want to go. Hmmm, this kinda reminds me of a new college roomate who asked me "are you one of those people who get uptight if anything happens if people use your stereo equipment?" I was puzzled, too, thought she must have had some incident in the past, blamed the *owner* for something breaking and that person being upset about it, and she's sorta asking me to certify in advance that she can use the equipment roughly without my objection. What could I say? "Sure, have at it."?? So I said "um, yes, I don't care for my stuff getting broken". She said "hummph" and didn't use it for the rest of the year.. So, when you call a restaurant and sorta ask them to certifiy that no-one would mind if your child is disruptive enough to effect diners wanting quiet, what do you think they thought! What kind of behavior were they wondering you were asking for their implicit tolerance for? *Of course* they politely turned you away. That they were combing their menu for things a lot of kids might like does tell me they would *welcome* your kids, presumably decently behaved. Maybe next time, just ask if they're a "family restaurant". That's sort of industry code. IMO the best way, really, is to teach the kids restaurant manners, and have a back up plan if things go awry (of course things sometimes go awry with kids). I used to stop the meal and have them wrap up what's left, and finish in the car. Banty -- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5222154.stm |
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Prime example of why I hate other parents...
"Nan" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:40:50 GMT, "Knit Chic" wrote: "Nan" wrote in message . .. On 10 Aug 2006 17:25:13 -0700, wrote: Knit Chic wrote: -L. wow ... look at you with all that power. I have to say ... I'm soooo very impressed. not. How are you going to do this? The manager would do it. If you are disruptive enough, you'd get kicked out. It happens. Who said anything about "disruptive enough"??? You obviously have a low tolerance for noise in a Family restaurant. As I said (and you seem to have snipped) Some adults need to learn tolerance just as much as some children need to learn what is tolerable. You're the epitome of Entitlemoo. Inconvenience the entire universe because you have an uncontrollable brat. Nice. Uhm no. Her child has a disability. That you judge her as an uncontrollable brat speaks volumes about you. Nan ah ... s'ok. I can see we are having a battle of wits w/ an unarmed person. BTDT. Oh, I know. Her raving that she has the right to have peace and quiet when she pleases defines her as the Entitlemoo. Nan 'zactly. I'm thinking the same thing. Besides, I said I would remove my child who happens to have a disability when it benefits my child ... I didn't define that in any way. also ... the ADA has a lot to say about the matter. |
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Prime example of why I hate other parents...
"LaTreen Washington" wrote in message ... I can see your brat’s retardation is hereditary. Actually, my child has an IQ of 138. She has been tested by one of the top people in the country. |
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Prime example of why I hate other parents...
"Banty" wrote in message ... In article U2ZCg.7634$z12.4360@trndny02, StephanieTheGoofy says... I phoned a restaurant recently that we had never been to before to ask of children were welcome. The host or whatever did not really know what I meant. He said we have things on the menu that children might find appealing yadda yadda. I said no that's not what I mean. Do children and families frequent the restaurant enough that this is the kind of place where other patrons expect it? Or are the patrons looking for their relaxed, quiet, romantic dinner? He paused for a minute and said "No one has ever asked me that before." He then tried to very graciously tell me it was really the latter without telling me we were unwelcome. And thanked me profusely for my concern.... I think that some people assume that everywhere is appropriate for their children if *they* want to go. Hmmm, this kinda reminds me of a new college roomate who asked me "are you one of those people who get uptight if anything happens if people use your stereo equipment?" I was puzzled, too, thought she must have had some incident in the past, blamed the *owner* for something breaking and that person being upset about it, and she's sorta asking me to certify in advance that she can use the equipment roughly without my objection. What could I say? "Sure, have at it."?? So I said "um, yes, I don't care for my stuff getting broken". She said "hummph" and didn't use it for the rest of the year.. So, when you call a restaurant and sorta ask them to certifiy that no-one would mind if your child is disruptive enough to effect diners wanting quiet, what do you think they thought! What kind of behavior were they wondering you were asking for their implicit tolerance for? No actually, we did not go to the restaurant. I called so if it was not appopriate, we could find somewhere else. And we did. Why do you assume the worst? *Of course* they politely turned you away. That they were combing their menu for things a lot of kids might like does tell me they would *welcome* your kids, presumably decently behaved. Maybe next time, just ask if they're a "family restaurant". That's sort of industry code. IMO the best way, really, is to teach the kids restaurant manners, and have a back up plan if things go awry (of course things sometimes go awry with kids). I used to stop the meal and have them wrap up what's left, and finish in the car. Banty -- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5222154.stm |
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Prime example of why I hate other parents...
"StephanieTheGoofy" wrote in message news:7b%Cg.2808$QK.1241@trndny06... "Banty" wrote in message ... So, when you call a restaurant and sorta ask them to certifiy that no-one would mind if your child is disruptive enough to effect diners wanting quiet, what do you think they thought! What kind of behavior were they wondering you were asking for their implicit tolerance for? No actually, we did not go to the restaurant. I called so if it was not appopriate, we could find somewhere else. And we did. Why do you assume the worst? I think you completely misunderstood Banty! She wasn't making any assumptions about how disruptive your child might be, or whether or not you went to the restaurant. What she was trying to say (if I understand correctly) is that restaurants aren't used to people calling and asking whether the other diners would mind a potentially disruptive child. Therefore they (the restaurant) might have assumed that your child is way worse than average, which is why you felt the need to call in the first place. So she wasn't suggesting that you not go to the restaurant. She was suggesting that you just take the child, and deal with any disruptive behavior if it happens. Of that if you ask them if they are a "family restaurant" they're more likely to understand what you want and be able to answer you. Bizby |
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