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Old February 5th 04, 08:37 PM
Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004
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http://www.drugabuse.gov/Infofax/Ritalin.html


When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a valuable medicine. Research
shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant medications
when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2



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Old February 5th 04, 10:26 PM
Roger Schlafly
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"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004" wrote:
http://www.drugabuse.gov/Infofax/Ritalin.html
When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a valuable medicine. Research
shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant

medications
when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2


The basis for that statement is footnote 2, a paper by Nora Volkow.
The conclusion of that paper is:

Conclusions: Oral methylphenidate is very effective in blocking dopamine
transporters, and at the weight-adjusted doses used therapeutically (0.3 to
0.6 mg/kg), it is likely to occupy more than 50% of the dopamine
transporters. The time to reach peak brain uptake for oral methylphenidate
in brain corresponds well with the reported time course to reach peak
behavioral effects.
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/...ct/155/10/1325

The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says nothing
about addiction.

I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to prove
that
it is not addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.


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Old February 5th 04, 10:33 PM
Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004
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"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message
. net...
"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004" wrote:
http://www.drugabuse.gov/Infofax/Ritalin.html
When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a valuable medicine.

Research
shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant

medications
when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2


The basis for that statement is footnote 2, a paper by Nora Volkow.
The conclusion of that paper is:

Conclusions: Oral methylphenidate is very effective in blocking dopamine
transporters, and at the weight-adjusted doses used therapeutically (0.3

to
0.6 mg/kg), it is likely to occupy more than 50% of the dopamine
transporters. The time to reach peak brain uptake for oral methylphenidate
in brain corresponds well with the reported time course to reach peak
behavioral effects.
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/...ct/155/10/1325

The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says nothing
about addiction.

I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to prove
that
it is not addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.


As you have been told countless times, Dr. Volkow, now head of NIDA, is the
leading researcher and authority on the physiology of addiction.

Since the article is published on the NIDA site, I conclude that what is
says is what she says, and her knowledge of this area is vastly greatger
than yours.



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Old February 5th 04, 10:43 PM
Roger Schlafly
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"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004" wrote
The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says

nothing
about addiction.
I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to

prove
that it is not addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.

Dr. Volkow, now head of NIDA, is the
leading researcher and authority on the physiology of addiction.
Since the article is published on the NIDA site, I conclude that what is
says is what she says, and her knowledge of this area is vastly greater
than yours.


She may be a great genius, and the webmaster may be sucking up to her
by citing her. Nevertheless, her cited paper says nothing about addiction.


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Old February 5th 04, 10:45 PM
Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004
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"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message
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"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004" wrote
The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says

nothing
about addiction.
I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to

prove
that it is not addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.

Dr. Volkow, now head of NIDA, is the
leading researcher and authority on the physiology of addiction.
Since the article is published on the NIDA site, I conclude that what is
says is what she says, and her knowledge of this area is vastly greater
than yours.


She may be a great genius, and the webmaster may be sucking up to her
by citing her. Nevertheless, her cited paper says nothing about addiction.


Says you. You may just be incapable of interpreting it.



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Old February 6th 04, 07:51 AM
Anth
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http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...authority.html
Anth

"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004" wrote in
message et...

"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message
. net...
"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004"

wrote:
http://www.drugabuse.gov/Infofax/Ritalin.html
When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a valuable medicine.

Research
shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant

medications
when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2


The basis for that statement is footnote 2, a paper by Nora Volkow.
The conclusion of that paper is:

Conclusions: Oral methylphenidate is very effective in blocking dopamine
transporters, and at the weight-adjusted doses used therapeutically (0.3

to
0.6 mg/kg), it is likely to occupy more than 50% of the dopamine
transporters. The time to reach peak brain uptake for oral

methylphenidate
in brain corresponds well with the reported time course to reach peak
behavioral effects.
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/...ct/155/10/1325

The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says

nothing
about addiction.

I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to

prove
that
it is not addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.


As you have been told countless times, Dr. Volkow, now head of NIDA, is

the
leading researcher and authority on the physiology of addiction.

Since the article is published on the NIDA site, I conclude that what is
says is what she says, and her knowledge of this area is vastly greatger
than yours.





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Old February 6th 04, 12:35 PM
Jeff
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"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message
. net...
"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004" wrote:
http://www.drugabuse.gov/Infofax/Ritalin.html
When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a valuable medicine.

Research
shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant

medications
when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2


The basis for that statement is footnote 2, a paper by Nora Volkow.
The conclusion of that paper is:

Conclusions: Oral methylphenidate is very effective in blocking dopamine
transporters, and at the weight-adjusted doses used therapeutically (0.3

to
0.6 mg/kg), it is likely to occupy more than 50% of the dopamine
transporters. The time to reach peak brain uptake for oral methylphenidate
in brain corresponds well with the reported time course to reach peak
behavioral effects.
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/...ct/155/10/1325

The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says nothing
about addiction.

I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to prove
that
it is not addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.


Yet you provide no evidence that methylphenidate is addictive when taken as
prescribed.

Jeff


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Old February 6th 04, 03:02 PM
Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004
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Nice, but incorrect. From the Nizkor page you cite:

"This fallacy is committed when the person in question is not a legitimate
authority on the subject."

Here, the person I am appealing to IS an authority. In fact, with regard to
the physiology of addcition, she IS the authority.

Thus, I am not being fallacious.

Please read the entire page before you cite it. Jan Drew does not read
everything she posts, and looks like a fool because of it.

Thank you for a chance to clear this up.




"Anth" wrote in message
...
http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...authority.html
Anth

"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004" wrote

in
message et...

"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message
. net...
"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004"

wrote:
http://www.drugabuse.gov/Infofax/Ritalin.html
When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a valuable medicine.

Research
shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant
medications
when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2

The basis for that statement is footnote 2, a paper by Nora Volkow.
The conclusion of that paper is:

Conclusions: Oral methylphenidate is very effective in blocking

dopamine
transporters, and at the weight-adjusted doses used therapeutically

(0.3
to
0.6 mg/kg), it is likely to occupy more than 50% of the dopamine
transporters. The time to reach peak brain uptake for oral

methylphenidate
in brain corresponds well with the reported time course to reach peak
behavioral effects.
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/...ct/155/10/1325

The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says

nothing
about addiction.

I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to

prove
that
it is not addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.


As you have been told countless times, Dr. Volkow, now head of NIDA, is

the
leading researcher and authority on the physiology of addiction.

Since the article is published on the NIDA site, I conclude that what is
says is what she says, and her knowledge of this area is vastly greatger
than yours.







  #9  
Old February 6th 04, 03:03 PM
Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004
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"Jeff" wrote in message
...

"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message
. net...
"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004"

wrote:
http://www.drugabuse.gov/Infofax/Ritalin.html
When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a valuable medicine.

Research
shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant

medications
when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2


The basis for that statement is footnote 2, a paper by Nora Volkow.
The conclusion of that paper is:

Conclusions: Oral methylphenidate is very effective in blocking dopamine
transporters, and at the weight-adjusted doses used therapeutically (0.3

to
0.6 mg/kg), it is likely to occupy more than 50% of the dopamine
transporters. The time to reach peak brain uptake for oral

methylphenidate
in brain corresponds well with the reported time course to reach peak
behavioral effects.
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/...ct/155/10/1325

The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says

nothing
about addiction.

I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to

prove
that
it is not addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.


Yet you provide no evidence that methylphenidate is addictive when taken

as
prescribed.


Roger has provided no case study or quality opinion that MPH is addictive
when taken as prescribed.



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Old February 6th 04, 07:23 PM
Sumbuny
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"Jeff" wrote in message
...

"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message
. net...
"Mark ProbertFebruary 5, 2004"

wrote:
http://www.drugabuse.gov/Infofax/Ritalin.html
When taken as prescribed, methylphenidate is a valuable medicine.

Research
shows that people with ADHD do not become addicted to stimulant

medications
when taken in the form prescribed and at treatment dosages.2


The basis for that statement is footnote 2, a paper by Nora Volkow.
The conclusion of that paper is:

Conclusions: Oral methylphenidate is very effective in blocking dopamine
transporters, and at the weight-adjusted doses used therapeutically (0.3

to
0.6 mg/kg), it is likely to occupy more than 50% of the dopamine
transporters. The time to reach peak brain uptake for oral

methylphenidate
in brain corresponds well with the reported time course to reach peak
behavioral effects.
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/...ct/155/10/1325

The paper is a worthwhile study of how ritalin works, but it says

nothing
about addiction.

I think that it is funny that the ritalin advocates are so eager to

prove
that
it is not addictive, but the evidence presented is so weak.


Yet you provide no evidence that methylphenidate is addictive when taken

as
prescribed.



Y'know, I think it is "funny" that those who are so anti-medication for ADHD
are so eager to say that the ability to become addicted to a medication when
not following the directions are not screaming just as loudly about other
cases...i.e., are they just as loudly demanding that other drugs that can be
easily addictive when abused be taken off the shelves? An example of an
*over the counter drug* that leads to such abuse can be found at
http://www.nasal-spray-addiction.com/


I had to have a doctor help get me off of that stuff...I *never* "forgot" to
take my next hit--I felt like I could not breathe without doing
so....*never* had this problem with ADHD meds....I *often forget* to take
them!

Buny


 




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