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Old January 12th 04, 07:02 PM
She's A Goddess
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Did anyone else catch this lovely tidbit in their Sunday paper?
http://tinyurl.com/2m3gt

I'll skip right past the "how bad co-sleeping is" bit and just wonder why in
damnation "Consider breastfeeding" is #4. Sigh. Then there was the good
laugh provided by #13 - finally a good reason to quit smoking when pregnant:
it will make your baby want to be held.

--
Rhiannon
Mom to M. Girl (28 months) and O. Boy (6 1/2 months)


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Old January 12th 04, 07:21 PM
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Nice...

Okay, IME it is next to impossible to bf and get baby's sleeping on track
without co-sleeping! What a crock... I swear, everyone I know cosleeps...
its like a dirty little secret, everyone does it but no one wants to admit
it.

I was very open about cosleeping in my moms groups and just recently
everyone is coming "out of the cosleeping closet!"

Molly

"She's A Goddess" wrote in message
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Did anyone else catch this lovely tidbit in their Sunday paper?
http://tinyurl.com/2m3gt

I'll skip right past the "how bad co-sleeping is" bit and just wonder why

in
damnation "Consider breastfeeding" is #4. Sigh. Then there was the good
laugh provided by #13 - finally a good reason to quit smoking when

pregnant:
it will make your baby want to be held.

--
Rhiannon
Mom to M. Girl (28 months) and O. Boy (6 1/2 months)




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Old January 12th 04, 07:48 PM
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Molly Ging wrote:
Nice...

Okay, IME it is next to impossible to bf and get baby's sleeping on track
without co-sleeping!


I doubt that - I'm sure I'm not the only one who breastfed a
crib-sleeper and never had to do anything to get his sleeping on track.

Clisby

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Old January 12th 04, 08:22 PM
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"Molly Ging" wrote in message
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Nice...

Okay, IME it is next to impossible to bf and get baby's sleeping on track
without co-sleeping! What a crock... I swear, everyone I know cosleeps...
its like a dirty little secret, everyone does it but no one wants to admit
it.

I was very open about cosleeping in my moms groups and just recently
everyone is coming "out of the cosleeping closet!"

Molly




I hold both my hands up. I have co-slept with all 5 babies, never had any
problems. Kam does spend a little time in his crib, but he wakes and gets in
with us.

--
Andrea mom of 5 - latest addition Kamron David 7 months still nursing strong
with 4 teeth!



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Old January 12th 04, 08:27 PM
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I doubt that - I'm sure I'm not the only one who breastfed a
crib-sleeper and never had to do anything to get his sleeping on track.

Clisby


That's why I said IME (in my experience) I'm sure there are more

molly


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Old January 12th 04, 09:52 PM
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In article ,
"Molly Ging" wrote:

Okay, IME it is next to impossible to bf and get baby's sleeping on track
without co-sleeping! What a crock... I swear, everyone I know cosleeps...
its like a dirty little secret, everyone does it but no one wants to admit
it.


Hi. I didn't co-sleep, but we bf exclusively and baby got his sleeping
on track. I know there are lots of co-sleepers out there but it's sure
not everybody. Now you've met me. :-)

Personally, I tried it but I could never relax enough to sleep well with
baby in the bed. Even in the same room, every gurgle or sigh woke me up,
so DS slept in an adjoining room after the first few weeks. When he
cried, either DH brought him in bed to nurse, or I went to the nursery
and nursed in the glider rocker.

In fact, the postings I've seen lately from people whose baby's sleeping
isn't on track are the ones with older (7+ month) babies who seem to
want to latch on in bed and nurse all night. Nothing against
co-sleeping, but it's not like it's guaranteed to instill good sleeping
habits.

- Lynn
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Old January 12th 04, 11:10 PM
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Did anyone else catch this lovely tidbit in their Sunday paper?
http://tinyurl.com/2m3gt


Dang, what's wrong with number 14? I would have KILLED to have a labor short
enough to give birth in the car!

--Helen
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Old January 12th 04, 11:23 PM
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"She's A Goddess" wrote in message
newsbCMb.35625$xy6.87934@attbi_s02...
Did anyone else catch this lovely tidbit in their Sunday paper?
http://tinyurl.com/2m3gt

I'll skip right past the "how bad co-sleeping is" bit and just wonder why

in
damnation "Consider breastfeeding" is #4. Sigh. Then there was the good
laugh provided by #13 - finally a good reason to quit smoking when

pregnant:
it will make your baby want to be held.

--
Rhiannon
Mom to M. Girl (28 months) and O. Boy (6 1/2 months)



Why would you skip the cosleeping comments? Surely if you are a proponent of
co-sleeping you would want to keep up to date on the latest research. Just
because no one here has ever smothered their baby to death doesn't mean it
doesn't happen. Chances are the study doesn't prove that there is anything
wrong with sensible co-sleeping but I would want to know what they found.

Judy


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Old January 13th 04, 04:30 PM
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"Molly Ging" wrote
Okay, IME it is next to impossible to bf and get baby's sleeping on track
without co-sleeping! What a crock... I swear, everyone I know cosleeps...
its like a dirty little secret, everyone does it but no one wants to admit
it.


I dunno. We did it. DD now sleeps through the night (at nine months) but
that's relatively new. She was waking up once a night for a long time and
she sleeps down the hall in her crib and we sleep in our bed. She's only
slept in our bed on the most horrible nights and even then, only when she
woke up at 4 a.m. (or something awful like that) and just wouldn't fall back
asleep. It's actually fairly simple to bf and not co-sleep.

This is not to say that co-sleeping is bad, just that bf'ing and co-sleeping
are certainly not co-dependant and one can easily bf without sharing a bed
or a room.
--
Melissa (in Los Angeles)
Mum to Elizabeth 4/13/03



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Old January 13th 04, 06:19 PM
Joshua Levy
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lynn wrote in message ...
In fact, the postings I've seen lately from people whose baby's sleeping
isn't on track are the ones with older (7+ month) babies who seem to
want to latch on in bed and nurse all night. Nothing against
co-sleeping, but it's not like it's guaranteed to instill good sleeping
habits.


The recent studies that I've seen show that co-sleeping babies have
more
sleep problems that crib sleepers:

Cosleeping in context: sleep practices and problems in young children
in
Japan and the United States by Latz S, Wolf AW, Lozoff B. in Arch
Pediatr
Adolesc Med 1999 Apr;153(4):339-46
"Within the US sample, cosleeping was associated with more bedtime
struggles (P.001), night waking (P.01), and overall stressful
sleep problems (P.01). ... In the Japanese sample, cosleeping
was
associated only with night waking (P.05)"

Emotional and behavioural problems in a sample of Finnish
three-year-olds.
by Sourander A. published in Eur Child Adolesc Psychiatry 2001
Jun;10(2):98-104
To quote from the summary of the study:
"Co-sleeping with parents was associated with sleep problems."

And these two studies, which are a little older:

The study Persistence of sleep disturbances in preschool children by
Kataria S, Swanson MS, Trevathan GE in J Pediatr 1987 Apr;110(4):642-6
(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract)
says:
"Co-sleeping (sleeping with a parent or sibling) was noted
more frequently in sleep-disturbed (34%) than in
non-sleep-disturbed
(16%) children."

Cosleeping and sleep problems in Hispanic-American urban young
children.
by Schachter FF, Fuchs ML, Bijur PE, Stone RK of Dept of Pediatrics,
New
York Medical College, Metropolitan Hospital Center, NY 10029. in
Pediatrics
1989 Sep;84(3):522-30
(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract)
"Frequent all-night cosleeping was also significantly associated
with
sleep problems.
 




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