Ritalin and Liver cancer

George Lagergren wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote:
Jan, please define "organized medicine" in a simple and coherent
definition so we can figure out what you are referring to. I know you
have claimed that you have done so, but, alas, no one can find it, and,
you seem to change the definition to suit your needs.

I have no problem in understanding what Jan means by "organized
medicine."
She means the way medicine is generally taught and practiced today.
Medicine is normally practiced using the pharm drug medicine "culture."
That is, medicine uses the "burn, cut or poison" medical approach to resolve
health conditions. In dentistry, they use silver-mercury poison inserts
placed in one's tooth rather then white composite fillings.

Do you really class aspirin, antibiotics and vaccinations as "burn, cut
or poison"? Are you keen on returning to medieval infant mortality
rates? Would you refuse to be "cut" if you had appendicitis?

Cathy

In article . net,
George Lagergren wrote:
Brad_Chad wrote:
Nobody knew about Vitamin C until the 20th century. They could not have
known that Vitamin C in citrus fruits prevents Scurvy.

"David Wright" replied:
That's true. But it'd be OK if they just knew that "there's something
about citrus fruits that prevents scurvy." And this was demonstrated
in 1747.

But how long did it take news to be known in the mid-1700s?

Not long. Remember, we're talking about a large and very important
area here -- both the Navy and the shipping business. This was a
cheap way to make both far more efficient. Word gets around fast
under such conditions.

For example, it was shown that taking protein digestive enzymes may
"defeat" cancer way back in 1904. With a book published on the subject in
1911. [See www.educate-yourself.com -
click on the Cancer link.]

Note the word "may" there, George. It's different from the word
"will". It has a corresponding concept "may not." You don't like
to think about that.

But even today, does the medical establishment use this protein
digestive enzymes protocol in doing battle against cancer?

Not that I know of. Many seemingly wonderful ideas do not pan out.
Whether you like it nor not.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"Are you going to come quietly, or do I have to use earplugs?"
-- The Goon Show

In article et,
George Lagergren wrote:
"Brad_Chad" wrote:
else? Should people sit around and wait so that a scientist will prove
that they should drink soy milk instead of dairy milk? If wheat is not
the best thing for you, should you wait 500 years to find out.

Brad, I just read that dairy / cow's milk and wheat are both
mucus producing food items.

I read that George is an idiot who has no idea what the significance
of mucous is.

I also read that pastuering cow's milk changes the casein protein
in cow's milk into a harmful substance for humans.

I read that UFOs landed on the White House lawn. It was right on the
front page, too.

Plus heat treatment does not kill all the germs in cow's milk.

There are germs in all foods, George.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"Are you going to come quietly, or do I have to use earplugs?"
-- The Goon Show

In article . net,
George Lagergren wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote:
Jan, please define "organized medicine" in a simple and coherent
definition so we can figure out what you are referring to. I know you
have claimed that you have done so, but, alas, no one can find it, and,
you seem to change the definition to suit your needs.

I have no problem in understanding what Jan means by "organized
medicine."

That would just mean you're as much of a loon as she is.

She means the way medicine is generally taught and practiced today.
Medicine is normally practiced using the pharm drug medicine "culture."
That is, medicine uses the "burn, cut or poison" medical approach to resolve
health conditions. In dentistry, they use silver-mercury poison inserts
placed in one's tooth rather then white composite fillings.

Your knowledge of medicine could be engraved on the head of a pin --
using an awl.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"Are you going to come quietly, or do I have to use earplugs?"
-- The Goon Show

George Lagergren wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote:

Jan, please define "organized medicine" in a simple and coherent
definition so we can figure out what you are referring to. I know you
have claimed that you have done so, but, alas, no one can find it, and,
you seem to change the definition to suit your needs.


I have no problem in understanding what Jan means by "organized
medicine."

I am truly sorry to hear that. I hope you get well soon.

She means the way medicine is generally taught and practiced today.
Medicine is normally practiced using the pharm drug medicine "culture."
That is, medicine uses the "burn, cut or poison" medical approach to resolve
health conditions. In dentistry, they use silver-mercury poison inserts
placed in one's tooth rather then white composite fillings.

That may be true, but when I posted an article about the Institute for
Healthcare Improvement, and stated that they were within organized
medicine (hint: the chief of the group is a member of the AMA), she
called me a liar.

So, as simple as you may think it is, she still uses a flexible
definition to suit her obsession of calling people liars.

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
George Lagergren wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote:

Jan, please define "organized medicine" in a simple and coherent
definition so we can figure out what you are referring to. I know you
have claimed that you have done so, but, alas, no one can find it, and,
you seem to change the definition to suit your needs.


I have no problem in understanding what Jan means by "organized
medicine."

I am truly sorry to hear that. I hope you get well soon.

She means the way medicine is generally taught and practiced
today.
Medicine is normally practiced using the pharm drug medicine "culture."
That is, medicine uses the "burn, cut or poison" medical approach to
resolve
health conditions. In dentistry, they use silver-mercury poison
inserts
placed in one's tooth rather then white composite fillings.

That may be true, but when I posted an article about the Institute for
Healthcare Improvement, and stated that they were within organized
medicine (hint: the chief of the group is a member of the AMA), she called
me a liar.

So, as simple as you may think it is, she still uses a flexible definition
to suit her obsession of calling people liars.

Oh, Mark's not a liar, look at the title of this thread.

Rich wrote:
"Brad_Chad" wrote in message
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The problem that I have is that conventional medicine took
away peoples choice by keeping people in the dark about the Hidden Food
Allergy CONTROVERSY. Why not publicize both sides of the controversy
loud and clear?

Not, as you seem to believe, because researchers are trying to conceal some
great burning controversy in medicine. Medical research is not much done
into "hidden allergies" because it is not a subject that offers much promise
of discovery. Just because you read a book about "hidden allergies" you seem
to think that HA is a major breakthough into the diagnosis and treatment of
disease. It's not. It's an insignificant backwater in the world of medicine
and is being ignored out of disinterest, not deceit.
--


--Rich

How can it not offer much promise if naturopathic doctors treat
people with it everyday. Hidden Food Allergies helped me. I told you
about the article in the Wall Street Journal. I also told you that it
would ruin the drug industry if people used it to treat hayfever, acne,
eczema, psoriasis, and other problems. It doesn't work on everybody,
but it sure will put a crimp in their profits. This is why nobody wants
to study it that much. Why should they study something which will not
make them more money?

Brad_Chad

"Brad_Chad" wrote in message
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Rich wrote:
"Brad_Chad" wrote in message
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The problem that I have is that conventional medicine took
away peoples choice by keeping people in the dark about the Hidden Food
Allergy CONTROVERSY. Why not publicize both sides of the controversy
loud and clear?

Not, as you seem to believe, because researchers are trying to conceal
some
great burning controversy in medicine. Medical research is not much done
into "hidden allergies" because it is not a subject that offers much
promise
of discovery. Just because you read a book about "hidden allergies" you
seem
to think that HA is a major breakthough into the diagnosis and treatment
of
disease. It's not. It's an insignificant backwater in the world of
medicine
and is being ignored out of disinterest, not deceit.
--


--Rich

How can it not offer much promise if naturopathic doctors treat
people with it everyday.

Naturopathic doctors are quacks who "treat" self limiting conditions with
all kinds of worthless mumbo jumbo because they are not licensed to
preactice real medicine.

Hidden Food Allergies helped me. I told you
about the article in the Wall Street Journal.

The Wall Street Journal is an excellent place to get your business news. It
is not a good source of science.


I also told you that it
would ruin the drug industry if people used it to treat hayfever, acne,
eczema, psoriasis, and other problems.

Ruin the drug industry? Just what percentage of pharmaceutical profits do
you imagine come from medications for those conditions? Probably not as much
as from any one of a dozen blockbuster drugs. The pharm companies are far
from ruin, believe me. What does the WSJ say about their profitability?
Besides, people with hay fever, acne, etc., will stick with effective
medical treatment for the forseeable future.

It doesn't work on everybody,
but it sure will put a crimp in their profits. This is why nobody wants
to study it that much. Why should they study something which will not
make them more money?

Uhhh, maybe to get a fat NCCAM grant?

--Rich

Mark Probert wrote:
Brad_Chad wrote:
The reason that I call Mark Probert a fool is this. His logic is very
discouraging. He believes that the positive effects of Hidden Food
Allergies is psychological. I believe that it is physical, because of
the experiences I had when I accidently ate something that I was
allergic to. My aching joints reminded me to check the ingredients.

I see, so merely because we disagree on causality you call me a fool and
then you get discouraged. Hmmm...I say it is psychoogical and you get
discouraged...I wonder if their is a link in there...

I'll explain it again, fool. I had really bad fatigue for 40 years.
It prevented me from reaching my potential in life. I found out about
Hidden Food Allergies when I was 40. I removed corn and dairy products
from my diet, and my energy level skyrocketed. If I had done the same
thing when I was 10 years old, I may have had the same results. Sure, I
would have gone an extra 30 years without corn or dairy, but so what.
Don't you see fool? Lets say that HFA is psychological. As long as the
symptoms go away, psychological or physical cause was of secondary
importance. The results was most important to me. These amoral doctors
are arguing over whether HFA is psychological or physical while my life
is going down the toilet. I would rather believe in a silly idea and
make the fatigue go away, than to do nothing for 40 years.

Brad_Chad

Hidden Food Allergies are linked to about a hundred health problems.
That is why the drug industry would suffer.

Brad_Chad