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Old June 14th 05, 07:19 AM
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LadyLollipop wrote:
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LadyLollipop wrote:
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Welcome to evil *organized medicine*

Bigot! Where's that definition, Jan?

You DON'T have to repeat it 1000 times. In fact we'll appreciate it if
you never repeat it again*.


Actually, if he wants a valid response, it would appear that he does.

Cathy


Actually, you are defending his hypocrisy and name calling. Had I said the
same, your response would be much different.

Jan

You DON'T have to repeat it 1000 times. In fact we'll appreciate it if
you never repeat it again*.


--Rich

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Brad was repeating a statement. Rich was asking a question, to which he
has not yet had a valid response. If you give one, I'm *sure* he'll
stop.

Cathy




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Old June 14th 05, 08:35 AM
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Welcome to evil *organized medicine*

Bigot! Where's that definition, Jan?

You DON'T have to repeat it 1000 times. In fact we'll appreciate it if
you never repeat it again*.

Actually, if he wants a valid response, it would appear that he does.

Cathy


Actually, you are defending his hypocrisy and name calling. Had I said
the
same, your response would be much different.

Jan

You DON'T have to repeat it 1000 times. In fact we'll appreciate it if
you never repeat it again*.


--Rich

Recommended websites:

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
http://www.acahf.org.au
http://www.quackwatch.org/
http://www.skeptic.com/
http://www.csicop.org/



Brad was repeating a statement. Rich was asking a question, to which he
has not yet had a valid response. If you give one, I'm *sure* he'll
stop.

Cathy


Actually, you are defending his hypocrisy and name calling. Had I said the
same, your response would be much different



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Old June 14th 05, 09:09 AM
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Welcome to evil *organized medicine*


Bigot! Where's that definition, Jan?


You DON'T have to repeat it 1000 times. In fact we'll appreciate it if
you never repeat it again*.



I would appreciate it if you never used "*organized medicine*" as a bigoted
epithet again. But you will, and I will continue to challenge it.
--


--Rich

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Old June 14th 05, 02:02 PM
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Jan, please define "organized medicine" in a simple and coherent
definition so we can figure out what you are referring to. I know you
have claimed that you have done so, but, alas, no one can find it, and,
you seem to change the definition to suit your needs.


I have no problem in understanding what Jan means by
"organized
medicine."

I am truly sorry to hear that. I hope you get well soon.


She means the way medicine is generally taught and practiced
today.
Medicine is normally practiced using the pharm drug medicine "culture."
That is, medicine uses the "burn, cut or poison" medical approach to
resolve
health conditions. In dentistry, they use silver-mercury poison
inserts
placed in one's tooth rather then white composite fillings.

That may be true, but when I posted an article about the Institute for
Healthcare Improvement, and stated that they were within organized
medicine (hint: the chief of the group is a member of the AMA), she
called
me a liar.

So, as simple as you may think it is, she still uses a flexible
definition
to suit her obsession of calling people liars.

Oh, Mark's not a liar, look at the title of this thread.


Says a person who has in the last two days amply demonstrated an
inability to understand figures of speech such as saying "I'm sure
...", has written incoherent sentence fragments where sentences were
required, and regularly demonstrates complete ignorance of literary
techniques such as metaphor, hyperbole and analogy.

Sounds like illiteracy to me!



Says a lying *gang* member who supports belittling, does it himself at the
expense of others and thinks it is funny.

Lies to trash researchers. Illiteracy? Tries to blame those who merely put
an article together, but did NOT write it, calls them a *anti vaccination
liars*

Wonder what *illiterate* person exposed that bit of *deceiving*

Says a new member who came to the ng like a bat out of hell spewing hatred
and lies

*I'm sure if you would stop lying, he would stop posting*

Meant to belittle.

Problem with that is:

What he is posting is what I stated, mostly is 2002.

Blows, the *if you would stop lying* right out of the water.

Welcome to evil *organized medicine*


Coul dyou be so kind as to post a clear and unequivocal definition of
organized medicine?



  #525  
Old June 14th 05, 02:04 PM
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Brad_Chad wrote:

Mark Probert wrote:


Brad_Chad wrote:


The reason that I call Mark Probert a fool is this. His logic is very
discouraging. He believes that the positive effects of Hidden Food
Allergies is psychological. I believe that it is physical, because of
the experiences I had when I accidently ate something that I was
allergic to. My aching joints reminded me to check the ingredients.

I see, so merely because we disagree on causality you call me a fool and
then you get discouraged. Hmmm...I say it is psychoogical and you get
discouraged...I wonder if their is a link in there...


I'll explain it again, fool.


I see...so merely becuase we disagree on causality you call me a
fool...then you get discouraged...I say it is psychological and you get
discouraged and call me a fool...I wonder if there is is link in
there...and I am wondering less with each post of yours....



I called you a fool because even if the cause is psychological, I still
think that the public should have been told. Giving up corn and dairy
was the least of my problems, even if the cause was psychological. You
still don't get it. I only cared about the symptoms going away. I would
have given up any food if my chronic fatigue went away. You would
rather that I eat the food (corn and dairy), and keep the fatigue,
until a solution comes along that satisfies you. I didn't care whether
you LABEL it psychological or physical, I cared about results. I got
results by finding my Hidden Food Allergies. I'm trying to help others
get results. If it doesn't work for you, then move on.


I see, so if you are challenged by anyone who does not accept your
balderdash at face value, they should merely move on.

Do you realize that you are more likely to get the tectonic plates that
moved back in December to return to their original position?
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Old June 14th 05, 02:13 PM
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Mark Probert wrote:
Brad_Chad wrote:

Mark Probert wrote:

Brad_Chad wrote:

Mark Probert wrote:


Brad_Chad wrote:


The reason that I call Mark Probert a fool is this. His logic is very
discouraging. He believes that the positive effects of Hidden Food
Allergies is psychological. I believe that it is physical, because of
the experiences I had when I accidently ate something that I was
allergic to. My aching joints reminded me to check the ingredients.

I see, so merely because we disagree on causality you call me a fool and
then you get discouraged. Hmmm...I say it is psychoogical and you get
discouraged...I wonder if their is a link in there...


I'll explain it again, fool.

I see...so merely becuase we disagree on causality you call me a
fool...then you get discouraged...I say it is psychological and you get
discouraged and call me a fool...I wonder if there is is link in
there...and I am wondering less with each post of yours....



I called you a fool because even if the cause is psychological, I still
think that the public should have been told. Giving up corn and dairy
was the least of my problems, even if the cause was psychological. You
still don't get it. I only cared about the symptoms going away. I would
have given up any food if my chronic fatigue went away. You would
rather that I eat the food (corn and dairy), and keep the fatigue,
until a solution comes along that satisfies you. I didn't care whether
you LABEL it psychological or physical, I cared about results. I got
results by finding my Hidden Food Allergies. I'm trying to help others
get results. If it doesn't work for you, then move on.


I see, so if you are challenged by anyone who does not accept your
balderdash at face value, they should merely move on.

Do you realize that you are more likely to get the tectonic plates that
moved back in December to return to their original position?


It's a long time since I saw 'balderdash' used other than in nineteenth
century novels. Wonderful.

Cathy

  #527  
Old June 14th 05, 02:40 PM
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cathyb wrote:

Mark Probert wrote:

Brad_Chad wrote:

Mark Probert wrote:


Brad_Chad wrote:


Mark Probert wrote:



Brad_Chad wrote:



The reason that I call Mark Probert a fool is this. His logic is very
discouraging. He believes that the positive effects of Hidden Food
Allergies is psychological. I believe that it is physical, because of
the experiences I had when I accidently ate something that I was
allergic to. My aching joints reminded me to check the ingredients.

I see, so merely because we disagree on causality you call me a fool and
then you get discouraged. Hmmm...I say it is psychoogical and you get
discouraged...I wonder if their is a link in there...


I'll explain it again, fool.

I see...so merely becuase we disagree on causality you call me a
fool...then you get discouraged...I say it is psychological and you get
discouraged and call me a fool...I wonder if there is is link in
there...and I am wondering less with each post of yours....


I called you a fool because even if the cause is psychological, I still
think that the public should have been told. Giving up corn and dairy
was the least of my problems, even if the cause was psychological. You
still don't get it. I only cared about the symptoms going away. I would
have given up any food if my chronic fatigue went away. You would
rather that I eat the food (corn and dairy), and keep the fatigue,
until a solution comes along that satisfies you. I didn't care whether
you LABEL it psychological or physical, I cared about results. I got
results by finding my Hidden Food Allergies. I'm trying to help others
get results. If it doesn't work for you, then move on.


I see, so if you are challenged by anyone who does not accept your
balderdash at face value, they should merely move on.

Do you realize that you are more likely to get the tectonic plates that
moved back in December to return to their original position?



It's a long time since I saw 'balderdash' used other than in nineteenth
century novels. Wonderful.


I read more than the back of cereal boxes.

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Old June 14th 05, 03:33 PM
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"Brad_Chad" wrote:
How can it not offer much promise if naturopathic doctors treat
people with it everyday. Hidden Food Allergies helped me. I told you


Brad, I feel folks must become their de facto diet medicine and
nutritional medicine "doctor."
Ordinary M.D.s may only know pharm drug type of medicine.

That way, if a person reads many negative comments / statements
about the adverse health effects on dairy / cow's milk on the human body,
that person may just drop their consumption of dairy / cow's milk products.


  #529  
Old June 14th 05, 03:36 PM
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"Brad_Chad" wrote:
Hidden Food Allergies are linked to about a hundred health problems.
That is why the drug industry would suffer.


Also, that is why the dairy industry would suffer, too.



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Old June 14th 05, 03:40 PM
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"Brad_Chad" wrote:
Don't you see fool? Lets say that HFA is psychological. As long as the
symptoms go away, psychological or physical cause was of secondary
importance. The results was most important to me. These amoral doctors
are arguing over whether HFA is psychological or physical while my life
is going down the toilet. I would rather believe in a silly idea and
make the fatigue go away, than to do nothing for 40 years.


And if most doctors don't understand that most cases of ear
infections and strep throats really are an allergy [to dairy / cow's milk]
problem NOT a germ problem, patients will continue to suffer.


 




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