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Old August 22nd 08, 12:39 AM posted to alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.child-protective-services,misc.legal,soc.men,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
tjab
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Default ""SERIOUS JAIL TIME"" Betty weighs in

In article ,
Kent Wills wrote:
On 21 Aug 2008 13:29:25 -0400, (tjab) wrote:

In article ,
Kent Wills wrote:

Any amount of time sentenced to jail is serious. Be it a day or a
year, it is serious.

You should know.



Everyone should know.


And yet:

"I have no idea if a Cuban jail is a place I would want to be."

- Kent Wills

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Old August 31st 08, 04:10 PM posted to alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.child-protective-services,misc.legal,soc.men,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
Kent Wills
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Default ""SERIOUS JAIL TIME"" Betty weighs in

On 31 Aug 2008 10:50:44 -0400, (tjab) wrote:

[...]

"I have no idea if a Cuban jail is a place I would want to be."

- Kent Wills


Are you claiming you DO know?


You didn't just say you didn't know. You said you had "no idea."


OK, if you want to play the semantics game...
At the time I wrote the quote, I'd done NO checking into what the
conditions of Cuban jails are/were. As such, I had no idea.
Based on what I've found since then, I seriously doubt I would
enjoy a stay, but I still don't actually KNOW.
Since I have no plans on visiting Cuba, and don't commit actions
that tend to land one in jail, I doubt I'll ever have the specific
knowledge one way or the other.
I accept Kenneth Robert Pangborn's specific knowledge (he claimed
to KNOW) that I wouldn't enjoy it. My limited research gives me
reason to believe he's correct.


That's a level of ignorance about which most people would not brag.

If you know, how do you know?


How do you know all jail time is serious?


Avoidance noted. Even so, I'll play along.
If one is sentenced to jail time, it's serious. Whether that
sentence is for one day, one year, or some time in between, it's
serious.
You may disagree. Your question gives reason to believe you do.

--
Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons...
for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
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Old August 31st 08, 05:03 PM posted to alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.child-protective-services,misc.legal,soc.men,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
tjab
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Default ""SERIOUS JAIL TIME"" Betty weighs in

In article ,
Kent Wills wrote:
On 31 Aug 2008 10:50:44 -0400, (tjab) wrote:

[...]

"I have no idea if a Cuban jail is a place I would want to be."

- Kent Wills


Are you claiming you DO know?


You didn't just say you didn't know. You said you had "no idea."


OK, if you want to play the semantics game...
At the time I wrote the quote, I'd done NO checking into what the
conditions of Cuban jails are/were. As such, I had no idea.
Based on what I've found since then, I seriously doubt I would
enjoy a stay, but I still don't actually KNOW.
Since I have no plans on visiting Cuba, and don't commit actions
that tend to land one in jail, I doubt I'll ever have the specific
knowledge one way or the other.
I accept Kenneth Robert Pangborn's specific knowledge (he claimed
to KNOW) that I wouldn't enjoy it. My limited research gives me
reason to believe he's correct.


That's a level of ignorance about which most people would not brag.

If you know, how do you know?


How do you know all jail time is serious?


Avoidance noted. Even so, I'll play along.
If one is sentenced to jail time, it's serious.


Here's a clue: When you're asked how you know something, simply
repeating the claim is not an answer. You write:

If one is sentenced to jail time, it's serious.


Again, how do you know? I ask you because it may help you understand
how Pangborn could know that you wouldn't want to be in a Cuban
jail without actually having been in one. Then again, maybe the
basis for *your* claim is that you *have* been incarcerated. In
fact, given the logic you present above (not to mention your
criminal record), it would be a reasonable conclusion to draw.



















































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Old August 31st 08, 07:46 PM posted to alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.child-protective-services,misc.legal,soc.men,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
Kent Wills
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Default ""SERIOUS JAIL TIME"" Betty weighs in

On 31 Aug 2008 12:03:35 -0400, (tjab) wrote:

In article ,
Kent Wills wrote:
On 31 Aug 2008 10:50:44 -0400,
(tjab) wrote:

[...]

"I have no idea if a Cuban jail is a place I would want to be."

- Kent Wills


Are you claiming you DO know?

You didn't just say you didn't know. You said you had "no idea."


OK, if you want to play the semantics game...
At the time I wrote the quote, I'd done NO checking into what the
conditions of Cuban jails are/were. As such, I had no idea.
Based on what I've found since then, I seriously doubt I would
enjoy a stay, but I still don't actually KNOW.
Since I have no plans on visiting Cuba, and don't commit actions
that tend to land one in jail, I doubt I'll ever have the specific
knowledge one way or the other.
I accept Kenneth Robert Pangborn's specific knowledge (he claimed
to KNOW) that I wouldn't enjoy it. My limited research gives me
reason to believe he's correct.


That's a level of ignorance about which most people would not brag.

If you know, how do you know?

How do you know all jail time is serious?


Avoidance noted. Even so, I'll play along.
If one is sentenced to jail time, it's serious.


Here's a clue: When you're asked how you know something, simply
repeating the claim is not an answer. You write:

If one is sentenced to jail time, it's serious.


Do you disagree? You must.
If so, how long have you held the view that being sentenced to
jail, which necessarily means being convicted of a crime, is no big
deal?


Again, how do you know?


Your dishonest word game isn't impressing me.

I ask you because it may help you understand
how Pangborn could know that you wouldn't want to be in a Cuban
jail without actually having been in one.


Without being in one, he can't know.
He can believe it, as I now do, that a Cuban jail is a place I,
and others, wouldn't want to be, but he can't know.
This isn't rocket science, though it's clear the intellectual
level is too far advanced for you.

Then again, maybe the
basis for *your* claim is that you *have* been incarcerated.


I've never been to Cuba. As such, I couldn't have been
incarcerated in a Cuban jail.
No amount of your word games and arguing semantics will alter this
simple truth.

In
fact, given the logic you present above (not to mention your
criminal record), it would be a reasonable conclusion to draw.


Except that I don't have a criminal record, unless you count two
speeding tickets from almost 15 years ago, and a failure to renew my
tags from the summer of '03 (not winter as you LIED and claimed at
least once). I have parking tickets from, I think, 1991 and 1998 as
well.
*Technically* these are criminal acts. Each one violated
applicable law. They aren't the level of criminal acts you dishonestly
try to present, but they would fit the category of a crime.
Since I paid the fine for each, there was no jail time assigned,
in contrast to what you deceptively try to present.
Why did you dishonestly snip so much of my post? You couldn't
even be honest enough to acknowledge what you snipped.
Has your hero worship of your racist hero, Prof. Jonez, become so
complete? Serious question. One I suspect you'll run way from
(metaphorically speaking) rather than answer.




















































 




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