Convincing woman to use abortion/adoption issue

Woman, mid 40s, discovers she is pregnant after seeing a man in another
state, who lives 3 hours away, only a few times and they stopped seeing each
other the day after alleged conception occurred. The woman has three boys,
21, 17, and 9 from the same ex-husband.

Both the man (who has no children) and woman are divorced, have professional
jobs, and live in good neighborhoods. In this case, the man probably makes
more than double the salary of the woman.

What are some really good arguments for the man to use to convince (beg?)
the woman to please use the option of abortion or adoption and not keep the
baby?

"ABC" wrote in message .com...
Woman, mid 40s, discovers she is pregnant after seeing a man in another
state, who lives 3 hours away, only a few times and they stopped seeing each
other the day after alleged conception occurred. The woman has three boys,
21, 17, and 9 from the same ex-husband.

Both the man (who has no children) and woman are divorced, have professional
jobs, and live in good neighborhoods. In this case, the man probably makes
more than double the salary of the woman.

What are some really good arguments for the man to use to convince (beg?)
the woman to please use the option of abortion or adoption and not keep the
baby?

Sorry, I cannot think of any arguments good or bad for a man to use to
convince a woman to have an abortion or adopt out a child. The fact
that the laws today leave that decision completely up to the woman,
the only thing a man can do is to not have sex. Plain and simple.
I'm not stating that the law giving the woman only the choice is right
or wrong. Just the plain facts, that only the woman gets to make that
choice. So, the only way for a man to be 100% sure of never having to
pay child support for a one night fling, is not not have a one night
fling.

Men can be left with the greater financial burden and none of the
choices with the consequences of a fling. So, until the law changes
(which will probably not happen in our lifetimes), the only choice a
man has in the matter of an unwanted or unexpected child is to say no
to sex in the first place.

"ABC" wrote in message .com...
Woman, mid 40s, discovers she is pregnant after seeing a man in another
state, who lives 3 hours away, only a few times and they stopped seeing each
other the day after alleged conception occurred. The woman has three boys,
21, 17, and 9 from the same ex-husband.

Both the man (who has no children) and woman are divorced, have professional
jobs, and live in good neighborhoods. In this case, the man probably makes
more than double the salary of the woman.

What are some really good arguments for the man to use to convince (beg?)
the woman to please use the option of abortion or adoption and not keep the
baby?

Sorry, I cannot think of any arguments good or bad for a man to use to
convince a woman to have an abortion or adopt out a child. The fact
that the laws today leave that decision completely up to the woman,
the only thing a man can do is to not have sex. Plain and simple.
I'm not stating that the law giving the woman only the choice is right
or wrong. Just the plain facts, that only the woman gets to make that
choice. So, the only way for a man to be 100% sure of never having to
pay child support for a one night fling, is not not have a one night
fling.

Men can be left with the greater financial burden and none of the
choices with the consequences of a fling. So, until the law changes
(which will probably not happen in our lifetimes), the only choice a
man has in the matter of an unwanted or unexpected child is to say no
to sex in the first place.

"ABC" wrote in message .com...
Woman, mid 40s, discovers she is pregnant after seeing a man in another
state, who lives 3 hours away, only a few times and they stopped seeing each
other the day after alleged conception occurred. The woman has three boys,
21, 17, and 9 from the same ex-husband.

Both the man (who has no children) and woman are divorced, have professional
jobs, and live in good neighborhoods. In this case, the man probably makes
more than double the salary of the woman.

What are some really good arguments for the man to use to convince (beg?)
the woman to please use the option of abortion or adoption and not keep the
baby?

Sorry, I cannot think of any arguments good or bad for a man to use to
convince a woman to have an abortion or adopt out a child. The fact
that the laws today leave that decision completely up to the woman,
the only thing a man can do is to not have sex. Plain and simple.
I'm not stating that the law giving the woman only the choice is right
or wrong. Just the plain facts, that only the woman gets to make that
choice. So, the only way for a man to be 100% sure of never having to
pay child support for a one night fling, is not not have a one night
fling.

Men can be left with the greater financial burden and none of the
choices with the consequences of a fling. So, until the law changes
(which will probably not happen in our lifetimes), the only choice a
man has in the matter of an unwanted or unexpected child is to say no
to sex in the first place.

Leslie wrote:
"ABC" wrote in message .com...

Woman, mid 40s, discovers she is pregnant after seeing a man in another
state, who lives 3 hours away, only a few times and they stopped seeing each
other the day after alleged conception occurred. The woman has three boys,
21, 17, and 9 from the same ex-husband.

Both the man (who has no children) and woman are divorced, have professional
jobs, and live in good neighborhoods. In this case, the man probably makes
more than double the salary of the woman.

What are some really good arguments for the man to use to convince (beg?)
the woman to please use the option of abortion or adoption and not keep the
baby?


Sorry, I cannot think of any arguments good or bad for a man to use to
convince a woman to have an abortion or adopt out a child. The fact
that the laws today leave that decision completely up to the woman,
the only thing a man can do is to not have sex.

Sure. Ahem. Not an option.

Plain and simple.
I'm not stating that the law giving the woman only the choice is right
or wrong. Just the plain facts, that only the woman gets to make that
choice. So, the only way for a man to be 100% sure of never having to
pay child support for a one night fling, is not not have a one night
fling.

So take your chances and make sure some form of contraceptive is bieng
used. BTW, U.C.L.A. is asking for male participants for contraceptive
testing right now. This should eliminate these problems in the future.


Men can be left with the greater financial burden and none of the
choices with the consequences of a fling. So, until the law changes
(which will probably not happen in our lifetimes), the only choice a
man has in the matter of an unwanted or unexpected child is to say no
to sex in the first place.

Too bad. I was thinking somewhere along the lines of a pre-nup like
contract that left the choice to the woman but also the financial
responsibility as well. This also eliminates the Koby Bryant like
problems as well. HeHe.

Leslie wrote:
"ABC" wrote in message .com...

Woman, mid 40s, discovers she is pregnant after seeing a man in another
state, who lives 3 hours away, only a few times and they stopped seeing each
other the day after alleged conception occurred. The woman has three boys,
21, 17, and 9 from the same ex-husband.

Both the man (who has no children) and woman are divorced, have professional
jobs, and live in good neighborhoods. In this case, the man probably makes
more than double the salary of the woman.

What are some really good arguments for the man to use to convince (beg?)
the woman to please use the option of abortion or adoption and not keep the
baby?


Sorry, I cannot think of any arguments good or bad for a man to use to
convince a woman to have an abortion or adopt out a child. The fact
that the laws today leave that decision completely up to the woman,
the only thing a man can do is to not have sex.

Sure. Ahem. Not an option.

Plain and simple.
I'm not stating that the law giving the woman only the choice is right
or wrong. Just the plain facts, that only the woman gets to make that
choice. So, the only way for a man to be 100% sure of never having to
pay child support for a one night fling, is not not have a one night
fling.

So take your chances and make sure some form of contraceptive is bieng
used. BTW, U.C.L.A. is asking for male participants for contraceptive
testing right now. This should eliminate these problems in the future.


Men can be left with the greater financial burden and none of the
choices with the consequences of a fling. So, until the law changes
(which will probably not happen in our lifetimes), the only choice a
man has in the matter of an unwanted or unexpected child is to say no
to sex in the first place.

Too bad. I was thinking somewhere along the lines of a pre-nup like
contract that left the choice to the woman but also the financial
responsibility as well. This also eliminates the Koby Bryant like
problems as well. HeHe.

Leslie wrote:
"ABC" wrote in message .com...

Woman, mid 40s, discovers she is pregnant after seeing a man in another
state, who lives 3 hours away, only a few times and they stopped seeing each
other the day after alleged conception occurred. The woman has three boys,
21, 17, and 9 from the same ex-husband.

Both the man (who has no children) and woman are divorced, have professional
jobs, and live in good neighborhoods. In this case, the man probably makes
more than double the salary of the woman.

What are some really good arguments for the man to use to convince (beg?)
the woman to please use the option of abortion or adoption and not keep the
baby?


Sorry, I cannot think of any arguments good or bad for a man to use to
convince a woman to have an abortion or adopt out a child. The fact
that the laws today leave that decision completely up to the woman,
the only thing a man can do is to not have sex.

Sure. Ahem. Not an option.

Plain and simple.
I'm not stating that the law giving the woman only the choice is right
or wrong. Just the plain facts, that only the woman gets to make that
choice. So, the only way for a man to be 100% sure of never having to
pay child support for a one night fling, is not not have a one night
fling.

So take your chances and make sure some form of contraceptive is bieng
used. BTW, U.C.L.A. is asking for male participants for contraceptive
testing right now. This should eliminate these problems in the future.


Men can be left with the greater financial burden and none of the
choices with the consequences of a fling. So, until the law changes
(which will probably not happen in our lifetimes), the only choice a
man has in the matter of an unwanted or unexpected child is to say no
to sex in the first place.

Too bad. I was thinking somewhere along the lines of a pre-nup like
contract that left the choice to the woman but also the financial
responsibility as well. This also eliminates the Koby Bryant like
problems as well. HeHe.

"dani" wrote in message
k.net...
Leslie wrote:
"ABC" wrote in message
.com...

Woman, mid 40s, discovers she is pregnant after seeing a man in another
state, who lives 3 hours away, only a few times and they stopped seeing
each
other the day after alleged conception occurred. The woman has three
boys,
21, 17, and 9 from the same ex-husband.

Both the man (who has no children) and woman are divorced, have
professional
jobs, and live in good neighborhoods. In this case, the man probably
makes
more than double the salary of the woman.

What are some really good arguments for the man to use to convince
(beg?)
the woman to please use the option of abortion or adoption and not keep
the
baby?

-----------------
If she won't abort or adopt then the man is screwed. If he is childfree and
wants to stay that way he better get to a clinic very fast for a snip.
Although unprotected sex is still just a very bad thing.
---------------------

Sorry, I cannot think of any arguments good or bad for a man to use to
convince a woman to have an abortion or adopt out a child. The fact
that the laws today leave that decision completely up to the woman,
the only thing a man can do is to not have sex.

Sure. Ahem. Not an option.

Plain and simple.
I'm not stating that the law giving the woman only the choice is right
or wrong. Just the plain facts, that only the woman gets to make that
choice. So, the only way for a man to be 100% sure of never having to
pay child support for a one night fling, is not not have a one night
fling.

So take your chances and make sure some form of contraceptive is bieng
used. BTW, U.C.L.A. is asking for male participants for contraceptive
testing right now. This should eliminate these problems in the future.

------------------
I think male contraceptives are going to be wonderful. If guys will be
smart enough to use them it could mean future changes for the family courts.
-------------------------

Men can be left with the greater financial burden and none of the
choices with the consequences of a fling. So, until the law changes
(which will probably not happen in our lifetimes), the only choice a
man has in the matter of an unwanted or unexpected child is to say no
to sex in the first place.

Too bad. I was thinking somewhere along the lines of a pre-nup like
contract that left the choice to the woman but also the financial
responsibility as well. This also eliminates the Koby Bryant like
problems as well. HeHe.

--------------------------------------------
A pre-nup will not stop the financial responsibility. The court will award
child support no matter what kind of agreement the parents have. That bs
'best interests' thing.
And saying that a man just has "to say no to sex" is bull. He does have to
be responsible and use protection at all times, (and remember to take his
pill, but abstinance is certainly not his "only choice".

~AZ~

"dani" wrote in message
k.net...
Leslie wrote:
"ABC" wrote in message
.com...

Woman, mid 40s, discovers she is pregnant after seeing a man in another
state, who lives 3 hours away, only a few times and they stopped seeing
each
other the day after alleged conception occurred. The woman has three
boys,
21, 17, and 9 from the same ex-husband.

Both the man (who has no children) and woman are divorced, have
professional
jobs, and live in good neighborhoods. In this case, the man probably
makes
more than double the salary of the woman.

What are some really good arguments for the man to use to convince
(beg?)
the woman to please use the option of abortion or adoption and not keep
the
baby?

-----------------
If she won't abort or adopt then the man is screwed. If he is childfree and
wants to stay that way he better get to a clinic very fast for a snip.
Although unprotected sex is still just a very bad thing.
---------------------

Sorry, I cannot think of any arguments good or bad for a man to use to
convince a woman to have an abortion or adopt out a child. The fact
that the laws today leave that decision completely up to the woman,
the only thing a man can do is to not have sex.

Sure. Ahem. Not an option.

Plain and simple.
I'm not stating that the law giving the woman only the choice is right
or wrong. Just the plain facts, that only the woman gets to make that
choice. So, the only way for a man to be 100% sure of never having to
pay child support for a one night fling, is not not have a one night
fling.

So take your chances and make sure some form of contraceptive is bieng
used. BTW, U.C.L.A. is asking for male participants for contraceptive
testing right now. This should eliminate these problems in the future.

------------------
I think male contraceptives are going to be wonderful. If guys will be
smart enough to use them it could mean future changes for the family courts.
-------------------------

Men can be left with the greater financial burden and none of the
choices with the consequences of a fling. So, until the law changes
(which will probably not happen in our lifetimes), the only choice a
man has in the matter of an unwanted or unexpected child is to say no
to sex in the first place.

Too bad. I was thinking somewhere along the lines of a pre-nup like
contract that left the choice to the woman but also the financial
responsibility as well. This also eliminates the Koby Bryant like
problems as well. HeHe.

--------------------------------------------
A pre-nup will not stop the financial responsibility. The court will award
child support no matter what kind of agreement the parents have. That bs
'best interests' thing.
And saying that a man just has "to say no to sex" is bull. He does have to
be responsible and use protection at all times, (and remember to take his
pill, but abstinance is certainly not his "only choice".

~AZ~

"dani" wrote in message
k.net...
Leslie wrote:
"ABC" wrote in message
.com...

Woman, mid 40s, discovers she is pregnant after seeing a man in another
state, who lives 3 hours away, only a few times and they stopped seeing
each
other the day after alleged conception occurred. The woman has three
boys,
21, 17, and 9 from the same ex-husband.

Both the man (who has no children) and woman are divorced, have
professional
jobs, and live in good neighborhoods. In this case, the man probably
makes
more than double the salary of the woman.

What are some really good arguments for the man to use to convince
(beg?)
the woman to please use the option of abortion or adoption and not keep
the
baby?

-----------------
If she won't abort or adopt then the man is screwed. If he is childfree and
wants to stay that way he better get to a clinic very fast for a snip.
Although unprotected sex is still just a very bad thing.
---------------------

Sorry, I cannot think of any arguments good or bad for a man to use to
convince a woman to have an abortion or adopt out a child. The fact
that the laws today leave that decision completely up to the woman,
the only thing a man can do is to not have sex.

Sure. Ahem. Not an option.

Plain and simple.
I'm not stating that the law giving the woman only the choice is right
or wrong. Just the plain facts, that only the woman gets to make that
choice. So, the only way for a man to be 100% sure of never having to
pay child support for a one night fling, is not not have a one night
fling.

So take your chances and make sure some form of contraceptive is bieng
used. BTW, U.C.L.A. is asking for male participants for contraceptive
testing right now. This should eliminate these problems in the future.

------------------
I think male contraceptives are going to be wonderful. If guys will be
smart enough to use them it could mean future changes for the family courts.
-------------------------

Men can be left with the greater financial burden and none of the
choices with the consequences of a fling. So, until the law changes
(which will probably not happen in our lifetimes), the only choice a
man has in the matter of an unwanted or unexpected child is to say no
to sex in the first place.

Too bad. I was thinking somewhere along the lines of a pre-nup like
contract that left the choice to the woman but also the financial
responsibility as well. This also eliminates the Koby Bryant like
problems as well. HeHe.

--------------------------------------------
A pre-nup will not stop the financial responsibility. The court will award
child support no matter what kind of agreement the parents have. That bs
'best interests' thing.
And saying that a man just has "to say no to sex" is bull. He does have to
be responsible and use protection at all times, (and remember to take his
pill, but abstinance is certainly not his "only choice".

~AZ~