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"Lecher9000" wrote in message ... You are right - they play games with the CS accounting to justify their existence. They bill CS accruals one month in advance and credit your payments one month in arrears. Aha ! That is why my account has an "arrears" balance, even though I am fully paid up and always have been, and why the former welfare recipients who answer the phones at DR can never tell me whether I am really in arrears or not. I get a "yes" one day and a "no" the next, and sometimes a yes and a no from the same former welfare recipient on the same day. I hope those communist lesbos all go straight to Hell. Every CS case file has what I call the "2 month gap." The system bills what is owed prior to the first of the month when the CS monthly amount accures. Then they don't credit the obligors payments until after the end of the month when the CS payments have been taken through wage withholding. The net affect is a "2 month gap" between the billings and application of CS payments. This BS is why every NCP needs to do a monthly audit of their account. That is the only way for an NCP to counter how the CS system sets up obligors to appear to not be paying as agreed. |
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From: "Bob Whiteside"
As you might know, there are several groups within each state's CS accounting units i.e. one for collections and disbursements, one for liens, one for tax intercepts, etc. Incorrect. You can also do what you suggested, i.e. apply any refund to your next year's taxes due, and that will protect any refund from being intercepted. Incorrect. They bill CS accruals one month in advance and credit your payments one month in arrears. Administratively that practice creates and arrearage on every case file for them to take credit for collecting. Incorrect. Case Workers - These people are mostly former welfare recipients who follow business process procedures written out for them. Incorrect. You do no service to noncustodial parents when you provide incorrect information. |
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From: "Bob Whiteside"
As you might know, there are several groups within each state's CS accounting units i.e. one for collections and disbursements, one for liens, one for tax intercepts, etc. Incorrect. You can also do what you suggested, i.e. apply any refund to your next year's taxes due, and that will protect any refund from being intercepted. Incorrect. They bill CS accruals one month in advance and credit your payments one month in arrears. Administratively that practice creates and arrearage on every case file for them to take credit for collecting. Incorrect. Case Workers - These people are mostly former welfare recipients who follow business process procedures written out for them. Incorrect. You do no service to noncustodial parents when you provide incorrect information. |
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From: "Bob Whiteside"
Every CS case file has what I call the "2 month gap." The system bills what is owed prior to the first of the month when the CS monthly amount accures. Then they don't credit the obligors payments until after the end of the month when the CS payments have been taken through wage withholding. The net affect is a "2 month gap" between the billings and application of CS payments. Again, incorrect. |
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From: "Bob Whiteside"
Every CS case file has what I call the "2 month gap." The system bills what is owed prior to the first of the month when the CS monthly amount accures. Then they don't credit the obligors payments until after the end of the month when the CS payments have been taken through wage withholding. The net affect is a "2 month gap" between the billings and application of CS payments. Again, incorrect. |
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ink.net... "Lecher9000" wrote in message ... You are right - they play games with the CS accounting to justify their existence. They bill CS accruals one month in advance and credit your payments one month in arrears. Aha ! That is why my account has an "arrears" balance, even though I am fully paid up and always have been, and why the former welfare recipients who answer the phones at DR can never tell me whether I am really in arrears or not. I get a "yes" one day and a "no" the next, and sometimes a yes and a no from the same former welfare recipient on the same day. I hope those communist lesbos all go straight to Hell. Every CS case file has what I call the "2 month gap." The system bills what is owed prior to the first of the month when the CS monthly amount accures. Incorrect - it bills on the first of the month, and doesn't consider the CS late until it is past the last day of the month. Then they don't credit the obligors payments until after the end of the month when the CS payments have been taken through wage withholding. Incorrect - the company doing the withholding has 5 days to send the CS money to the court, and then CSE passes the money through in a 24-hour time frame - so the only time the payment gets pushed past the end of the month is in cases where the payment isn't received until the last day of the month, or later, due to the employer sending in the money late. The net affect is a "2 month gap" between the billings and application of CS payments. Incorrect. This BS is why every NCP needs to do a monthly audit of their account. That is the only way for an NCP to counter how the CS system sets up obligors to appear to not be paying as agreed. |
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ink.net... "Lecher9000" wrote in message ... You are right - they play games with the CS accounting to justify their existence. They bill CS accruals one month in advance and credit your payments one month in arrears. Aha ! That is why my account has an "arrears" balance, even though I am fully paid up and always have been, and why the former welfare recipients who answer the phones at DR can never tell me whether I am really in arrears or not. I get a "yes" one day and a "no" the next, and sometimes a yes and a no from the same former welfare recipient on the same day. I hope those communist lesbos all go straight to Hell. Every CS case file has what I call the "2 month gap." The system bills what is owed prior to the first of the month when the CS monthly amount accures. Incorrect - it bills on the first of the month, and doesn't consider the CS late until it is past the last day of the month. Then they don't credit the obligors payments until after the end of the month when the CS payments have been taken through wage withholding. Incorrect - the company doing the withholding has 5 days to send the CS money to the court, and then CSE passes the money through in a 24-hour time frame - so the only time the payment gets pushed past the end of the month is in cases where the payment isn't received until the last day of the month, or later, due to the employer sending in the money late. The net affect is a "2 month gap" between the billings and application of CS payments. Incorrect. This BS is why every NCP needs to do a monthly audit of their account. That is the only way for an NCP to counter how the CS system sets up obligors to appear to not be paying as agreed. |
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"PattymacI" wrote in message ... From: "Bob Whiteside" Every CS case file has what I call the "2 month gap." The system bills what is owed prior to the first of the month when the CS monthly amount accures. Then they don't credit the obligors payments until after the end of the month when the CS payments have been taken through wage withholding. The net affect is a "2 month gap" between the billings and application of CS payments. Again, incorrect. Have you ever actually seen these billing statements? Here's how it works: On the 20th of a month a CS statement is generated. It includes a pre-bill for the payment due on the first of the next month. Because that statement is generated on the 20th of the month is does not include payments sent by employers after the last pay period in that month. So the payment due on the first of November is pre-billed on the October 20th statement, and payments made during November do not appear on the statement until the December 20th statement is generated. From October 20th until December 20th is two months. To get an accurate picture of what is really going on with an NCP's account, the NCP's need to subtract the pre-billed CS payment from the total amount billed figure, and add CS payments not yet credited into the total amount paid figure. Because this two month gap is REAL I experienced the state attempting to hit me with arrearage withholding orders every time there were 3 Friday pay periods in a calendar month. When the employer waits until after the 3rd pay period in the calendar month to submit the total CS wage withholding for the month, that causes the payments to be credited in the third month and triggers the state to generate arrearage withholding orders. Which then forces the NCP's to do their audit and request a refund based on the next month's statement. |
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"PattymacI" wrote in message ... From: "Bob Whiteside" Every CS case file has what I call the "2 month gap." The system bills what is owed prior to the first of the month when the CS monthly amount accures. Then they don't credit the obligors payments until after the end of the month when the CS payments have been taken through wage withholding. The net affect is a "2 month gap" between the billings and application of CS payments. Again, incorrect. Have you ever actually seen these billing statements? Here's how it works: On the 20th of a month a CS statement is generated. It includes a pre-bill for the payment due on the first of the next month. Because that statement is generated on the 20th of the month is does not include payments sent by employers after the last pay period in that month. So the payment due on the first of November is pre-billed on the October 20th statement, and payments made during November do not appear on the statement until the December 20th statement is generated. From October 20th until December 20th is two months. To get an accurate picture of what is really going on with an NCP's account, the NCP's need to subtract the pre-billed CS payment from the total amount billed figure, and add CS payments not yet credited into the total amount paid figure. Because this two month gap is REAL I experienced the state attempting to hit me with arrearage withholding orders every time there were 3 Friday pay periods in a calendar month. When the employer waits until after the 3rd pay period in the calendar month to submit the total CS wage withholding for the month, that causes the payments to be credited in the third month and triggers the state to generate arrearage withholding orders. Which then forces the NCP's to do their audit and request a refund based on the next month's statement. |
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ink.net... "Lecher9000" wrote in message ... You are right - they play games with the CS accounting to justify their existence. They bill CS accruals one month in advance and credit your payments one month in arrears. Aha ! That is why my account has an "arrears" balance, even though I am fully paid up and always have been, and why the former welfare recipients who answer the phones at DR can never tell me whether I am really in arrears or not. I get a "yes" one day and a "no" the next, and sometimes a yes and a no from the same former welfare recipient on the same day. I hope those communist lesbos all go straight to Hell. Every CS case file has what I call the "2 month gap." The system bills what is owed prior to the first of the month when the CS monthly amount accures. Incorrect - it bills on the first of the month, and doesn't consider the CS late until it is past the last day of the month. The statements are not generated on the first day of the month. While it is true the CS payments accrue on the first day of the month, the monthly billing statements are generated before the first of the month and include the pre-billed CS amount for the subsequent month. Then they don't credit the obligors payments until after the end of the month when the CS payments have been taken through wage withholding. Incorrect - the company doing the withholding has 5 days to send the CS money to the court, and then CSE passes the money through in a 24-hour time frame - so the only time the payment gets pushed past the end of the month is in cases where the payment isn't received until the last day of the month, or later, due to the employer sending in the money late. You are citing the law, but that is not necesarily how payments actually get applied. Employers who use electronic funds transfer of CS withholding to submit withholding amounts lump them together and send the bundled payments in after the last pay period in the month. While these employers are technically late with the first pay period payment, they are early with the second pay period payment. We've had this discussion before. The companies have 5 BUSINESS days to mail the withholding. Five business days plus a weekend plus a couple of days for mailing time is 8-9 calendar days. The net affect is a "2 month gap" between the billings and application of CS payments. Incorrect. Have you ever seen a CS billing statement that goes to an NCP? |
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