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weaning or maybe not, how to do it?
On Apr 28, 2:55 pm, yogigupta wrote:
On Apr 25, 10:03 pm, cjra wrote: I don't _want_ to wean DD. In my ideal world we'd continue going until one of us is done. However we've already decided if at one year I'm not ovulating, to wean as we're very anxious to TTC. At almost 10 months now, DD is still a nursing machine. She nurses regularly 3x/ night (the last few nights more like 6 but I think she's teething). I can't even imagine weaning her. 1. How do we go about doing it? Slowly? Give her milk during the day and still wean at night? I'm willing to give it some time, and would prefer a gradual weaning and see if I ovulate once we cut down. Does she _need_ cow's milk during the day? Or just another snack? I'd love to be able to stop pumping. She's eating 3 solids meals per day now, although no snack, just EBM/nursing. 2. How does one night wean? We co sleep. We do have a crib which she uses some times, but obviously it's easier to co-sleep, but that doesn't help the weaning process. Any tips? Postponing TTC is not an option we want to consider. I'd be happier to already be pg now! We really want another. Normally, you should not wean off the breast milk for the first 12 post natal months. If you want to wean at 10 months, wean her to iron fortfied infant formula 50/50 a couple of weeks and then 100 % infant formulas. Do not give cows's milk before first birthday.- Hide quoted text - Just to be clear, again. I have no intention of weaning before 12 months (one year, as stated in my initial post). My question was aimed at what to do once she reaches 12 months. |
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weaning or maybe not, how to do it?
On Apr 26, 4:37 pm, "Nikki" wrote:
"cjra" wrote in message oups.com... 1. How do we go about doing it? Slowly? Give her milk during the day and still wean at night? I'm willing to give it some time, and would prefer a gradual weaning and see if I ovulate once we cut down. Does she _need_ cow's milk during the day? Or just another snack? I'd love to be able to stop pumping. She's eating 3 solids meals per day now, although no snack, just EBM/nursing. 2. How does one night wean? We co sleep. We do have a crib which she uses some times, but obviously it's easier to co-sleep, but that doesn't help the weaning process. Any tips? If you start weaning at 12mos you replace the day milk feeds with snacks & drinks. Babies need fat, calcium, and vitamin D. I give mine milk and dairy products to meet those needs. They don't drink a whole lot of milk at first but they do like yogurt, cheese, pudding, etc. Ok, that sounds reasonable. DD likes yoghurt already (esp. granmaman's homemade yoghurt!). We tried cheese in Switzerland last week but she wasn't too interested. I think you can stop pumping anytime you want. If she is attached to those 6-8 ounces at daycare then you could continue to pump for that another couple of months but if you didn't want to I wouldn't worry about it. She would manage with solids and water or solids and cows milk. Cows milk at 10mos doesn't hurt anything it just shouldn't replace breastmilk/formula. With all the nursing she's doing I wouldn't consider 6oz to be replacing anything. I'm afraid to stop those 6-8ozs for fear she'll nurse even more at night! She already nurses 3x/night due to reverse cycling, I don't want more. But at 12 months that will be what I cut out first. When I night weaned mine I cut down each feeding until they were just a few minutes long. I then started stretching out the time in the middle of the night by eliminating feedings until I reached a point that I thought was reasonable. I did it the same way for the older ones (that co-slept) and the younger ones that are in their crib. There was more crying with the younger ones but they were only 10-11mos and they were in the crib. They do sleep better now then the older ones though. Hmmm, am I in for a long crying session at night no matter what I do? We saw the pedi Friday and I mentioned she was still nursing 3x/night and he was very sympathetic - said she shouldn't be, but understood the reverse cycling issue and said as long as I could handle it, there was no real problem. His comment was that we were in for a rough time when I do try to night wean. At 12mos I'm tying to wean the twins to nursing twice a day. They are not to happy about it. Good luck and I hope the night weaning brings on ovulation. If you quit pumping that might help also. I'mhoping so too. If I can day wean and it works, that's fine. I'll wait til 12 months for that though. PS: I found nursing while pregnant to be absolutely awful. People do it but I said never again. Just something to think about. I'll decide that when the time comes! Thanks for the tips. |
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weaning or maybe not, how to do it?
Hmmm, am I in for a long crying session at night no matter what I do?
We saw the pedi Friday and I mentioned she was still nursing 3x/night and he was very sympathetic - said she shouldn't be, but understood the reverse cycling issue and said as long as I could handle it, there was no real problem. His comment was that we were in for a rough time when I do try to night wean. I think this may well be true in your case, because you are looking at both her and conceiving, if you were dealing with just her and you were happy with how things were, she would night wean eventually, without pain, but probably not until between 2 and 3. Our DS was also on 3 times a night at this age, and night weaning him was surprisingly painless, but I know you've already tried what we did - at least I think you have - we did controlled crying, we expected it would have to be DH that soothed him, but it turned out it worked better if I did it, but one of the reasons we could do this was because he was in a cot in his own room, I don't think he'd have stopped crying if he could see me or DH still there and think there was a possibility of a cuddle or some milk. I think you'll have to figure out which is worse for her, being with you and not being fed, or being alone, because whilst a lot of people think that latter is brutal, for some kids it's the lesser of two evils, the parent being there, but not doing what they want can make the crying go on and on and on. Anne |
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weaning or maybe not, how to do it?
On Apr 25, 10:03�pm, cjra wrote:
I don't _want_ to wean DD. In my ideal world we'd continue going until one of us is done. However we've already decided if at one year I'm not ovulating, to wean as we're very anxious to TTC. At almost 10 months now, DD is still a nursing machine. She nurses regularly 3x/ night (the last few nights more like 6 but I think she's teething). I can't even imagine weaning her. 1. How do we go about doing it? Slowly? Give her milk during the day and still wean at night? I'm willing to give it some time, and would prefer a gradual weaning and see if I ovulate once we cut down. Does she _need_ cow's milk during the day? *Or just another snack? I'd love to be able to stop pumping. She's eating 3 solids meals per day now, although no snack, just EBM/nursing. 2. How does one night wean? We co sleep. We do have a crib which she uses some times, but obviously it's easier to co-sleep, but that doesn't help the weaning process. Any tips? Postponing TTC is not an option we want to consider. I'd be happier to already be pg now! We really want another. I'm 35, so I totally hear where you're coming from in terms of not wanting to postpone TTC, but it sounds like it's going to be really tough going if you continue to co-sleep. I think I would switch her to her own room and night-wean, in your situation. And maybe stop pumping for her day feeds, just offer her the breast when she wants it. Of course, I got my period back all three times at about 14 months, night-nursing or not. So you may find that you get your period back just fine in the next few months anyway. If it were based solely on how much the baby is nursing, I'd probably only have one kid! Here's hoping, and good luck TTC! Bryna |
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weaning or maybe not, how to do it?
"cjra" wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 26, 4:37 pm, "Nikki" wrote: When I night weaned mine I cut down each feeding until they were just a few minutes long. I then started stretching out the time in the middle of the night by eliminating feedings until I reached a point that I thought was reasonable. I did it the same way for the older ones (that co-slept) and the younger ones that are in their crib. There was more crying with the younger ones but they were only 10-11mos and they were in the crib. They do sleep better now then the older ones though. Hmmm, am I in for a long crying session at night no matter what I do? Actually when I night weaned the ones that I co-slept with (using above method) the crying wasn't all that bad. Luke did not cry for longer then 5 minutes and he was nursing a lot more then 3 times a night when I did the night weaning (at 18mos). He continued to wake up and ask to nurse, and whimper about it, for a very long time but no big crying ordeal. One other tip. I taught them to 'finish up'. I said 'finish up' and gave them a couple seconds to unlatch and if they didn't, I unlatched them. I did it at the end of the nursing session until they learned it (which didn't take all that long) and then I asked them to 'finish up'earlier and earlier. They would unlatch themselves about 75% of the time. I did that because I discovered that they were much happier to come off on their own, then if I unlatched them. -- Nikki, mama to Hunter 4/99 Luke 4/01 Brock 4/06 Ben 4/06 |
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weaning or maybe not, how to do it?
On Apr 29, 6:52 pm, "Anne Rogers" wrote:
Hmmm, am I in for a long crying session at night no matter what I do? We saw the pedi Friday and I mentioned she was still nursing 3x/night and he was very sympathetic - said she shouldn't be, but understood the reverse cycling issue and said as long as I could handle it, there was no real problem. His comment was that we were in for a rough time when I do try to night wean. I think this may well be true in your case, because you are looking at both her and conceiving, if you were dealing with just her and you were happy with how things were, she would night wean eventually, without pain, but probably not until between 2 and 3. Our DS was also on 3 times a night at this age, and night weaning him was surprisingly painless, but I know you've already tried what we did - at least I think you have - we did controlled crying, No, we haven't really done that. I have let her cry in the going to sleep stage a number of times when she's clearly tired but won't nurse or sleep and is just playing. What I'll do is leave her in her crib for a few minutes, she gets really ****ed off and then she wants desperately to nurse and falls asleep doing so pretty quickly. It's not very nice but is sometimes the only way to get her to calm down. A couple of times I've tried not nursing her when she woke up, and turning away or moving farther away on the bed. It has worked ocassionally, but not usually. The nights I haven't been in bed with her (either because I was sick and sleeping in another room or when I went away for 2 nights)DH tried to console her during those wake up times but she was insistent upon eating. we expected it would have to be DH that soothed him, but it turned out it worked better if I did it, but one of the reasons we could do this was because he was in a cot in his own room, I don't think he'd have stopped crying if he could see me or DH still there and think there was a possibility of a cuddle or some milk. I think you'll have to figure out which is worse for her, being with you and not being fed, or being alone, because whilst a lot of people think that latter is brutal, for some kids it's the lesser of two evils, the parent being there, but not doing what they want can make the crying go on and on and on. hah. Unfortunately her own room is not an option at the moment. "Her" room, our second bedroom, is currently a storage room while we undergo restorations. We are just now starting to work on her room, but it'll be at least 3-4 months before it's habitable (probably longer - we have to strip the lead paint off the windows/frames, the trims we're sending out to be stripped, then we have to tape and float the walls, fix 2 doors, paint (it's either cracked old sheetrock or new unpainted sheetrock, then put in flooring....). There's not another room in the house that is suitable, as all the other rooms are open - no doors (mainly because they are down to be stripped due to chipping lead paint -I have pics up at www.cheriseandfredo.blogspot.com if you can't picture what I'm describing) and I don't trust the cat to leave her alone. We do have a crib in our room, but I agree, as long as she can see us, she's going to want us. Maybe that'll be incentive to get the room done, not that we need the incentive, we've just had other priorities (like the foundation skirting and the porch about to crash). |
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weaning or maybe not, how to do it?
On May 3, 1:14 pm, Larry Mcmahan wrote:
In article .com, says... Just to be clear, again. I have no intention of weaning before 12 months (one year, as stated in my initial post). My question was aimed at what to do once she reaches 12 months. I can guess that you don't want to hear this, but I still say wait until 18 months. The value of breastmilk in the second year over not giving it is proven, the value to your body in having that long to recover makes the next pregnancy easier, and it's only another 6 months. :-) "Only 6 months" is a lot different to someone who is 24 and got pg on the first try the first time vs. someone who is 38 and took 10 months, including a miscarriage to get pg the first time. Falling into the latter camp, I'm a bit more anxious to work on the next kid. However, I will try partial weaning and see how that works. |
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