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Exclusive BF for big baby?
KC wrote:
I am curious about a baby's inability to use foods besides bm and formula. Didn't people in the past get put on lots of solids really early and still grow? Obviously bm is best, but is it really true that the baby's can't use other foods? Babies were put on solids early in the past few decades - many of us started rice cereal obscenely early. However, solid food wasn't the majority of our diet. And probably - certainly - there were people who would have been healthier had their diet been exclusively breastmilk (or formula). Formulas have been getting better and better - it's not all that common anymore for a baby to die from being FF - but in the past, babies who were deprived of human milk, such as foundling babies, died en masse. -- iphigenia www.tristyn.net |
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Exclusive BF for big baby?
Alex was born on April 19th at 7 pounds 12 ounces. He is now 17 pounds. He
is getting plump with rolls. I started giving him some cereal around 2 months. I felt he wasn't being satisfied with just milk. He was eating every 2 to 3 hours. He likes his cereal and sleeps longer. I just think how I wouldn't feel satisfied on just a liquid diet. I think he needed more than just liquid. He seems very satisfied when I give him the cereal. I don't replace a feeding. I feed him the food in between feedings. I started with just a few baby spoons and now he gets a small bowl. I add apples now too. The Dr. said it was ok, he's more old fashioned. A few spoons of rice cereal won't hurt. Kris "Lana" wrote in message news:G6pUa.131718$OZ2.25972@rwcrnsc54... Hi, This is my first post, although I've been lurking since my son was born 4/2/03. This group has been very informational for me, and I thought I'd ask for advice. My son was born 8lbs 9 oz, as of last weekend, he was a little over 18 lbs. so he has double his birthweight and then some, and he's not yet 4 months. He has been almost exclusively breastfeed since birth (except for the first few days when I was force to supplement w/ formula, due to my inverted nipples, but thank god for breast shields, my BF savior, and he wean off of those at 10 weeks, but now is refusing bottles of EBM but that's another story.) . I've been lucky that he has always slept through the night since birth, (4-6 hours) until he was 4 weeks then 5-7 hour when he was 6 weeks, and 6-8 hours at 8 weeks, and 8 hours+ for the last 6 weeks. Well now he is starting not to sleep through the night, I'd say for the past week, he's woken up 4 time at midnight or 3 am, starving, last night it was twice. Sometimes he cries, other times he is just tossing and turning and sucking his fist vigoriously, and is smacking his lips. I readily feed him, and he goes right back to sleep after 10 min or so, but I'm wondering if milk is still enough for him. I mean I know that it is, but I kind of like him sleeping through the night. I don't think it's a growth spurt, I've actually not notice any except for the 3 week one. I have a really good supply, but I think he can't drink enough in the day sometimes to meet his intake requirement. The few times that he has sucked my dry, my body does really well and adjust the next day, and I get engorged for several days. I nurse every 2-2.5 hours, but sometimes he won't nurse for more than 5 min.most times he'll nurse for 10-12 min, but always refuses the other breast. In all I'm nursing about 7 times during the day. I'm debating starting solids. I know about the allergies, but I'm worried that I can't nurse him enough during the day for him not to be hungry in the middle of night. I know some babies, don't sleep through the night til much later, but I'm spoiled and don't want to give that up. Any advice for me to either get him to nurse longer during the day? Part of the problem is I think I have OAL, and I've heard that I should pump to relieve some of that, but that just don't make sense to me, I mean if I pump won't I continue to produce more than I need. And at what point should I start trying solids, what the largest baby in this group who has gone exclusive BF, and had the baby sleep through the night? Maybe I should just suck it up, and do what's best for my son and just exclusively BF until he's at least 6 months. Reading this I'm not really sure what I'm asking but for some of you guys to share your experiences with me. Especially those of you w/ larger babies, and how long you exclusily breast feed for. I know I have enough and can produce enough BM to keep him going but at what cost to me, and at the rate he's gaining I expect the problem to just get worse.. And a side note Dr. Sears said if your baby is taking 40 ounces of formula, you should (it might have could) probably try to replace one of his feedings with cereal. According to my calculations he needs 36-45 ounces a day (the 2 - 2.5 ounce per lb standard), so does that apply to BF babies to? So I'm unsure of what I should do, a. try to get him to nurse more during the day b. try to add cereal to his diet c. suck it up, and feed BM whenever he wants it even if it means not sleep through the night anymore. I know this isn't a problem compared to what others are experiencing but it goes through my head about every day, weather I should start solid or not. Thanks, LuLu and my chunky monkey. |
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I fed 3 of my boys cereal early, 2 to 3 months, and they all did fine with
it. They are all pretty healthy. My first 2 were formula fed and this one is bf. They all grew and slept at different rates too. Kris "KC" wrote in message om... I am curious about a baby's inability to use foods besides bm and formula. Didn't people in the past get put on lots of solids really early and still grow? Obviously bm is best, but is it really true that the baby's can't use other foods? KC OSPAM (Naomi Pardue) wrote in message ... My son was born 8lbs 9 oz, as of last weekend, he was a little over 18 lbs. so he has double his birthweight and then some, and he's not yet 4 months. Wow! Sounds like he's doing terrific on your milk! So I'm unsure of what I should do, a. try to get him to nurse more during the day b. try to add cereal to his diet c. suck it up, and feed BM whenever he wants it even if it I snipped most of your post, but I would definitely try to wait a little longer to start solids. Not necessarily 6 months, but he isn't even 4 months yet, which is really the bare minimum. Since it's entirely normal and common for 3 1/2 month old babies to nurse at night, why not just feed him at night if he wakes. Maybe he'll go back to sleeping through in a few days, or maybe not. You could certainly try feeding him more often during the day and see if that will help, though if he's already eating every couple of hours during the day, he probably won't want to nurse much more than that. (Before rushing to cereal, remember that, while he's a big baby, he's still only 3 1/2 months old, and so probably can't digest cereal yet. Do you really want to fill his belly with something that he can't make any use of? Give it a few more weeks. At 4 or 4 1/2 months, if you still want to try the cereal, and he's showing other signs of readiness, you can offer him some and see if he likes it/is able to take it.) Naomi CAPPA Certified Lactation Educator (either remove spamblock or change address to to reply.) |
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K.B. wrote:
Alex was born on April 19th at 7 pounds 12 ounces. He is now 17 pounds. He is getting plump with rolls. I started giving him some cereal around 2 months. I felt he wasn't being satisfied with just milk. He was eating every 2 to 3 hours. That's a normal schedule for a breastfeeding 2 month old, although some nurse even more often at such a young age. He grew that big *on* your milk, so it didn't become in effective for him overnight. He likes his cereal and sleeps longer. That is probably just coincidence, or it's that his little tummy is working so hard to digest food that he's not ready for, it wears him out. It's the post-Thanksgiving effect, compounded. I just think how I wouldn't feel satisfied on just a liquid diet. Adults wouldn't feel satisfied with most of a baby's life, like being carried around everywhere, diapered, sitting in a car seat, being sung to off-key ;-), having lots of naps (*I* could sure do with someone expecting me to nap a few times a day though!), but those things are entirely appropriate for a baby. You can't apply that kind of logic to children, I'm afraid. I think he needed more than just liquid. He seems very satisfied when I give him the cereal. I don't replace a feeding. I feed him the food in between feedings. I started with just a few baby spoons and now he gets a small bowl. I add apples now too. It's good that you're not replacing a breastmilk feeding with the food, at least. Apples can be very binding, along with cereal; have you noticed any constipation? The Dr. said it was ok, he's more old fashioned. I'm not sure I'd call him old-fashioned. More like, not up-to-date on the latest research. It would make me question his knowledge on other issues that were pertinent to my baby's health. Although, maybe he's just one of those doctors who green lights everything their patients do to avoid conflict or feelings of guilt...that could be useful for some, I suppose. A few spoons of rice cereal won't hurt. Early introduction of solids increases a baby's risk of allergies, illness, and anemia, and is linked to obesity in later life. Those interested can find a few more tidbits of info on the risks associated with early introduction of solids at these links: http://www.breastfeed-essentials.com/solidfood.html http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/so...lids-when.html http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/so...ay-solids.html Emily |
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"Beth" wrote in message .. .
It's always struck me as a load of hogwash about big babies needing more than just milk (how did they get so big in the first place?). Beth This brings back memories My son was 6 1/2 pounds at birth and 20 pounds at 6 mnths. He was HUGE, 3 chins, rolls of fat on his thighs and he had no wrists at all his arms were so chunky. He didnt start solids til almost 7 months and everyone kept asking me "what are you feeding that boy??" Even my ped. was impressed that he was strictly bf. So, to the original poster, big babies do not necessarily need anything else than mama's milk. Lots of things make babies wake up at night besides hunger...teething, emotional or physical milestones, etc. I would wait it out for a while longer and see how he does. Diane |
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It's good that you're not replacing a breastmilk feeding with the food,
at least. Apples can be very binding, along with cereal; have you noticed any constipation? Actually he gets really watery poops. Somtimes it seems so bad. It's been better latly and i'm not sure if it's because I don't have dairy or from the creal and apples. I really don't give alot of cereal. Just a few tablespoons during dinner. Kris : http://www.breastfeed-essentials.com/solidfood.html http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/so...lids-when.html http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/so...ay-solids.html Emily |
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