10 day old stolen 6 years ago - WHY does the state have jurisdiction?

On 3 Mar 2004 03:39:25 -0800, (Greg Hanson) wrote:

10 day old stolen 6 years ago
WHY does the state have jurisdiction?
What gives the state any right to delay this reunification?

Are you as lacking in imagination as you are information?

Empathy disability is a very serious lack in humans, Greegor.

Try to imagine what the little girl is going through and what she will
be facing.

Her "mother" of six years, who she undoubtedly loves and needs, is
gone...for good.

A stranger...too her....is going to rush in and grab her up with no
preparation or explanation before the fact?

She is six. Even adults that suddenly learn they were adopted are
deeply troubled and upset, unable to process so much so fast.

Even people that DO know they were separated as children, when they
reunite, go through profound and upsetting changes. Sometimes it's so
overwhelming they blow out psychologically and do stupid things.

Do you NEVER think before you come to such stupid conclusions as this
assumption of yours shows?

Girl Thought to Have Died Found Alive
PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- A 10-day-old girl thought to have died in a
1997 fire was actually kidnapped by a woman who set the blaze to
cover her tracks, police said Monday.

Notice: This girl has zero memory of another person as her mother. She
will have some imprinting memories, and they will in time serve for
reuniting, but no "attachment" memories that come from constant
nurturing over time by the bio mother and the child.

The biological mother
contacted authorities after seeing the now 6-year-old at a
birthday party and recognizing the child as her own.

And those authorities need to check out her story, and her evidence,
rather than go rushing off "giving the child a shower."

http://g.msn.com/0US!s5.31472_315529/64.c3913/1
Woman spots daughter thought to have died
Suspected kidnapper surrenders to police
Associated Press Updated: 6:57 p.m. ET March 02, 2004

PHILADELPHIA - Luz Cuevas took one look at the dimpled, dark-haired
little girl at a birthday party and instantly knew two things: She
was
watching her own daughter — presumed killed in a 1997 fire
— and she needed a way to prove it.

So Cuevas pretended the 6-year-old girl had gum in her hair, removed
five strands from the child's head, folded them in a napkin and
placed
them in a plastic bag.

"Because of TV, I knew they needed hair for the DNA," Cuevas said
Tuesday.

The DNA tests confirmed a mother's intuition.

Do you believe that legal custody of a child should be changed on
"mother's intuition," Greegor, or on legally admissible proven in a
court of law evidence?

Take your time. This is for a grade, ten percent of your semester
overall.

The girl was Cuevas' only daughter, Delimar Vera — the girl
everyone else believed had perished in a house fire when she was only
10 days old.

Investigators believe a family acquaintance stole the baby from her
crib, set the fire to cover the crime and raised the little girl as
her own.

Carolyn Correa, of Willingboro, N.J., who was wanted on charges of
arson and kidnapping surrendered to police in Philadelphia Tuesday
afternoon, said her attorney, Jeffrey Zucker.

Girl taken into state custody
The little girl has been taken into state custody in New Jersey. It
was not immediately clear when she would be reunited with her mother.

Fire officials believed the 1997 blaze at Cuevas' Philadelphia home
was sparked by a home-rigged extension cord connected to a space
heater. The fire was put out in 10 minutes, but Delimar's room was
gutted, and investigators concluded that the infant's body must have
been consumed by the intense heat and flames.

The fire was put out in 10 minutes, but Delimar's room was gutted,
and
investigators concluded that the infant's body must have been
consumed
by the intense heat and flames.

Cuevas said several things made her suspicious.

"I went inside the room and looked in the crib, and she wasn't
there,"
Cuevas said, adding that the window was inexplicably open though it
was a cold winter evening. Police and fire officials that night told
the hysterical mother that "maybe it was my nerves."

Cuevas, 31, said she was also suspicious because Correa, 42, had
announced that she was pregnant during a visit shortly after
Delimar's
birth. According to Cuevas, Correa abruptly ceased contact after the
blaze.

Cuevas, who speaks in halting English, said she instantly recognized
the child as her daughter at the Jan. 24 birthday party. It was
unclear what brought the girl, who was being called Aliyah, and her
biological mother to the same party.

'I want to hug her'
"When I see her, I saw that she was my daughter," said Cuevas. "I
want
to hug her. I want to run with her."

She sought help from state Rep. Angel Cruz, who represents the poor,
largely Hispanic neighborhood where Cuevas lives. Cruz said he was
skeptical at first but "something inside" told him that there could
be
something to the bizarre claim. He called police, who contacted
Correa
for a DNA test that ultimately proved Cuevas right.

"It's a mother's way. It's motherly intuition," the lawmaker said.

Yet he was careful to go by the law. How is it you cannot?

Cuevas and Delimar's father, Pedro Vera, 39, had a baby boy after
Delimar's disappearance but broke up under the STRAIN OF LOSING THEIR
DAUGHTER.

"Right now I want to see my daughter," Pedro Vera said. "I am so
happy. I just want to see my daughter."

It will be up to a FAMILY COURT JUDGE to determine where the little
girl will live.

[What about this story gives them any damned jurisdiction!? Greg]

Did you notice there are no quote marks around that statement?

Since the child was stolen that brings her, as you ninnies are always
screaming CPS should be doing, under the jurisdiction of the state.

She is a child at risk. There is no way of knowing if the mother is
safe for the child to live with. We'd all like to think so, as such
human interest stories are carefully slanted to make us think.

But since a law was broken, and it involved a child, the child's best
interests come to the foreground immediately.

What would you yahoos be saying if the police simply delvered the
child to the mother, after a quick once over by CPS, and the mother
turned out to abuse and or neglect the child later?

Correa pleaded guilty to a 1996 arson at a medical office in New
Jersey and got five years' probation, according to court records.

Neighbors who used garden hoses and fire extinguishers in a futile
attempt to help Cuevas reach her newborn on the night of the fire
reacted to the news with joy and anger.

Jose Rosario, a former next-door neighbor, said he took a drink to
celebrate.

"I was happy she was alive," said Rosario, who recalled grabbing a
fire extinguisher and desperately trying to enter the window where
Delimar was supposed to have been, only to be repelled by the intense
flames.

"Somebody could have got hurt trying to save someone who wasn't in
there," Rosario said. "The way she hurt those people, she should be
put away in a crazy house."

And that is the absolute most clear piece of the report. Someone that
was obviously mentally unbalanced, at least at the moment, if not
more, stole a child.

Now, to return the child, the state wants to insure there won't be
further hurt to a child that is now, this instant and for probably
years to come, going to mourn the loss of her "mother" that nurtured
her (whether we like that "mommy" or not).

She will likely lose the relatives of that surrogate mom who also were
to her "familiy."

A decently trained and experiences social worker will have his or her
work cut out for him or her. The child needs to be able to make some
sense of it all...and a cold shower won't do that, Greegor.

And a loving mother will want to have help in dealing with very likely
fall out from the child. Children suffering from loss can be very
difficult to parent, reactive, resistant, angry, sad, all kinds of
behaviors and feelings can come up for her.

And she will be with a stranger. To her. And it will be hard.

You'd just give her a cold shower and teach her to do dog tricks, and
apply a spanking or two when she misbehaved. That should make it all
alright.

Kane