If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Co-sleeping=more night wakings???
I would love some feedback.
We have co-slept with both of our two kids. Though, these days DH sleeps with the 4 year old and I sleep with the baby in another room. Constant colds and sleep issues have set this up for the last couple of weeks so that we just don't sleep well all in the same room. If you had told me 4 years ago that my ds would still be sleeping with us I would have passed out. When he was a tiny infant I was constantly asking more experienced mothers "When?" When will he not need to be held so much? When will he stop nursing every hour? When will he sleep through the night? I wised up a bit and read a few Dr. Sears books and just plowed ahead with what was working for us. With DS #2 I thought right from the start, this one is going to sleep better. He is much more mellow than the first and slept good 4 hour stretches in the early weeks. Now at 6 months he wakes 3 times a night (on a good night) and nurses quite well during those wakings. I am a full-time working mom and I figure he is reverse cycling a bit because he has never been a big fan on the bottle. While this is OK with me I wonder is it the nature of my children or my methods that leave me having not slept through the night MYSELF for four years. DS #1 woke once a night until he was over three and he stopped only because we welcomed him back into our bed when I was pregnant with number 2 so DH could watch him and I could sleep better. (Funny how the boy was back in our bed when DH took over the night times. DH was critical of the co-sleeping when I was the only one waking. LOL) So do you think co-sleeping children wake more? J |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Co-sleeping=more night wakings???
Jrogold wrote:
do you think co-sleeping children wake more? I think at the very least they wake their parents more. Caterpillar has been a really good sleeper the last couple of days, where really good means "sleeps at 10pm, nurses at 11pm, 4am, 6am, and 7am." She's also started putting herself to sleep at night (she stops nursing, and just flails around getting comfortable, and eventually sleeps either on her own or with someone holding or patting her), and I think if she were a crib baby and not reverse-cycling because she doesn't like the bottle, she'd be sleeping through or close to it. Phoebe |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Co-sleeping=more night wakings???
"Jrogold" wrote in message om... I would love some feedback. We have co-slept with both of our two kids. Though, these days DH sleeps with the 4 year old and I sleep with the baby in another room. Constant colds and sleep issues have set this up for the last couple of weeks so that we just don't sleep well all in the same room. If you had told me 4 years ago that my ds would still be sleeping with us I would have passed out. When he was a tiny infant I was constantly asking more experienced mothers "When?" When will he not need to be held so much? When will he stop nursing every hour? When will he sleep through the night? I wised up a bit and read a few Dr. Sears books and just plowed ahead with what was working for us. With DS #2 I thought right from the start, this one is going to sleep better. He is much more mellow than the first and slept good 4 hour stretches in the early weeks. Now at 6 months he wakes 3 times a night (on a good night) and nurses quite well during those wakings. I am a full-time working mom and I figure he is reverse cycling a bit because he has never been a big fan on the bottle. While this is OK with me I wonder is it the nature of my children or my methods that leave me having not slept through the night MYSELF for four years. DS #1 woke once a night until he was over three and he stopped only because we welcomed him back into our bed when I was pregnant with number 2 so DH could watch him and I could sleep better. (Funny how the boy was back in our bed when DH took over the night times. DH was critical of the co-sleeping when I was the only one waking. LOL) So do you think co-sleeping children wake more? J I've never had non co-sleeping kids, so I wouldnt know. But I suspect waking up a few times to nurse would make waking more frequent in cosleepers. I put my baby to sleep around 9 pm, but I dont consider that her bedtime. If I did, I would say she wakes at 11,3 and 6 am to eat. But I consider her 830 -9pmsleeping to be a nap. FWIW,mine does most of her eating from 3-6 am. |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Co-sleeping=more night wakings???
"Phoebe & Allyson" wrote in message ... Jrogold wrote: do you think co-sleeping children wake more? I think at the very least they wake their parents more. Caterpillar has been a really good sleeper the last couple of days, where really good means "sleeps at 10pm, nurses at 11pm, 4am, 6am, and 7am." Thats almost the same schedule as mine. She goes to sleep around 9 pm, then up again at 11 down again till about 3, nurses then sleep. She wakes again at about 5 or 6 and nurses on the hour till about 9 when the other kids are off to school and I put her back to sleep. She's also started putting herself to sleep at night (she stops nursing, and just flails around getting comfortable, and eventually sleeps either on her own or with someone holding or patting her), and I think if she were a crib baby and not reverse-cycling because she doesn't like the bottle, she'd be sleeping through or close to it. I think mine is reverse-cycling just because its easier on me. She eats like a maniac from about 3 am to 9 am, then during the day we do errands, clean etc and have short quick nursing sessions. She also will fall asleep on her own now. |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Co-sleeping=more night wakings???
Jrogold wrote:
So do you think co-sleeping children wake more? First let me just say my #1 sounds just like yours and my #2 sounds just like yours too :-) I think co-sleeping *increases the likelihood* that a baby will nurse more frequently during the night and/or for a longer time. IRL there are all kinds of outcomes though. I think co-sleeping greatly increases the likelihood that a child will be much older before spending the entire night in their own rooms, in their own beds, without a parent. There are of course plenty of exceptions out there :-) #1 needed to be held all the time from the get go and reverse cycled so he was a lost cause ;-) In my heart I really believe that if I would have committed to crib sleeping with #2 he would have slept through and quit night nursing (or at least been down to a couple times) before 12mo. I didn't do that of course ;-) Now...#1 will be 5 next month. In the last three months he has started to lay down and fall asleep while I was in the next room and he'll spend the whole night in his bed about 15% of the time, the rest of the time he'll come in with me after 5-6 hrs. I sit with #2 until he falls asleep. He spends 3-4 hrs in his bed and then comes into bed with me. Getting them both to stay in their own beds would probably be possible but not easy on them. I have given nudges here and there to get to this point but I'm not bothered by the current set up so I'm just going to let them grow out of it from here. -- Nikki (with an epic length response, lol) Mama to Hunter (4) and Luke (2) |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Co-sleeping=more night wakings???
We do not cosleep. Pillbug started out in a
bassinet next to our bed, then moved to his crib at about 3-1/2 months. For a LONG time, he was waking up every 1-1/2- 2 hours to nurse (10-minute sessions, go right back to sleep after). Then, we figured out his dairy-induced eczema, and he started sleeping a bit longer. A couple weeks later, he stabilized at about every 2 hours. Now, we do solids twice a day, sometimes 3 times. He has been pretty stable at waking up every 3 hours to nurse, going right back to sleep afterwards. So, I don't think it makes a difference whether you cosleep or not... At the 9-month WBV yesterday, the ped. said that I'm sort of "stuck" with this schedule until we wean, that for some babies, breastmilk will digest that fast and they get hungry, or it's a comfort thing. So, I've resigned myself to waking up every 3 hours until at least Pillbug's 1st birthday... -- Anita -- Jrogold wrote: I would love some feedback. We have co-slept with both of our two kids. Though, these days DH sleeps with the 4 year old and I sleep with the baby in another room. Constant colds and sleep issues have set this up for the last couple of weeks so that we just don't sleep well all in the same room. If you had told me 4 years ago that my ds would still be sleeping with us I would have passed out. When he was a tiny infant I was constantly asking more experienced mothers "When?" When will he not need to be held so much? When will he stop nursing every hour? When will he sleep through the night? I wised up a bit and read a few Dr. Sears books and just plowed ahead with what was working for us. With DS #2 I thought right from the start, this one is going to sleep better. He is much more mellow than the first and slept good 4 hour stretches in the early weeks. Now at 6 months he wakes 3 times a night (on a good night) and nurses quite well during those wakings. I am a full-time working mom and I figure he is reverse cycling a bit because he has never been a big fan on the bottle. While this is OK with me I wonder is it the nature of my children or my methods that leave me having not slept through the night MYSELF for four years. DS #1 woke once a night until he was over three and he stopped only because we welcomed him back into our bed when I was pregnant with number 2 so DH could watch him and I could sleep better. (Funny how the boy was back in our bed when DH took over the night times. DH was critical of the co-sleeping when I was the only one waking. LOL) So do you think co-sleeping children wake more? J |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Co-sleeping=more night wakings???
So do you think co-sleeping children wake more?
It appears that on average they do. However, it's not at all clear which way the cause and effect relationship runs, if in fact there is a cause and effect relationship between co-sleeping and night waking! Since in our culture co-sleeping is not considered the norm, I believe that it's usually the kids who continue to wake at night past infancy who wind up co-sleeping (because the parents find they get more sleep if they just bring the kid into their bed), not that the kids whose parents choose to co-sleep longer wind up waking more often at night. And co-sleeping = night waking is not true for all kids either. My son has always slept through the night when he co-sleeps from bedtime, and woken in the night when he starts out in his own crib or bed. Is it the nature of your children or your methods? Both. Could either or both of your children be "taught" to sleep through the night without waking you? Maybe. Even probably. That's the methods part. But whether it would be easy or difficult to do so, and what medical and emotional impact it would have on them (and thus on you!), is dependent upon their temperament -- something over which you have no control. Some kids just sleep alone more easily than others. Heck, some adults prefer to sleep alone while others prefer to sleep cuddled up with another person! I expect that, as with most things, both nature and nurture play a part in which preference any individual has. Holly Mom to Camden, 3yo EDD #2 6/8/04 |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Co-sleeping=more night wakings???
Jrogold wrote:
I would love some feedback. We have co-slept with both of our two kids. Though, these days DH sleeps with the 4 year old and I sleep with the baby in another room. Constant colds and sleep issues have set this up for the last couple of weeks so that we just don't sleep well all in the same room. If you had told me 4 years ago that my ds would still be sleeping with us I would have passed out. When he was a tiny infant I was constantly asking more experienced mothers "When?" When will he not need to be held so much? When will he stop nursing every hour? When will he sleep through the night? I wised up a bit and read a few Dr. Sears books and just plowed ahead with what was working for us. With DS #2 I thought right from the start, this one is going to sleep better. He is much more mellow than the first and slept good 4 hour stretches in the early weeks. Now at 6 months he wakes 3 times a night (on a good night) and nurses quite well during those wakings. I am a full-time working mom and I figure he is reverse cycling a bit because he has never been a big fan on the bottle. While this is OK with me I wonder is it the nature of my children or my methods that leave me having not slept through the night MYSELF for four years. DS #1 woke once a night until he was over three and he stopped only because we welcomed him back into our bed when I was pregnant with number 2 so DH could watch him and I could sleep better. (Funny how the boy was back in our bed when DH took over the night times. DH was critical of the co-sleeping when I was the only one waking. LOL) So do you think co-sleeping children wake more? I don't know if co-sleeping children wake more during the night, but in our case, I know that *I* wake up more often. And most of those times, the baby is asleep - but then, *my* awakenings wake him up (and of course, vice versa). DH and I actually switched children (we have a similar sleep situation). DH sleeps with the baby and I sleep with 6-year-old DD. Why? It took me longer to get the baby back to sleep by nursing than DH, who pats the baby for 5-15 seconds and then the baby falls asleep. Jeanne |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Co-sleeping=more night wakings???
"Jrogold" wrote in message om... I would love some feedback. We have co-slept with both of our two kids. Though, these days DH sleeps with the 4 year old and I sleep with the baby in another room. Constant colds and sleep issues have set this up for the last couple of weeks so that we just don't sleep well all in the same room. If you had told me 4 years ago that my ds would still be sleeping with us I would have passed out. When he was a tiny infant I was constantly asking more experienced mothers "When?" When will he not need to be held so much? When will he stop nursing every hour? When will he sleep through the night? I wised up a bit and read a few Dr. Sears books and just plowed ahead with what was working for us. With DS #2 I thought right from the start, this one is going to sleep better. He is much more mellow than the first and slept good 4 hour stretches in the early weeks. Now at 6 months he wakes 3 times a night (on a good night) and nurses quite well during those wakings. I am a full-time working mom and I figure he is reverse cycling a bit because he has never been a big fan on the bottle. While this is OK with me I wonder is it the nature of my children or my methods that leave me having not slept through the night MYSELF for four years. DS #1 woke once a night until he was over three and he stopped only because we welcomed him back into our bed when I was pregnant with number 2 so DH could watch him and I could sleep better. (Funny how the boy was back in our bed when DH took over the night times. DH was critical of the co-sleeping when I was the only one waking. LOL) So do you think co-sleeping children wake more? J It took 5.5 years for ds1 to sleep well, alone and in his own bed - I too would have fallen over if I had known that at the beginning. Now though, he is fantastic unless there is some problem (like a cold) which is fair enough. Having said that, I still think it is easier to co-sleep than deal with constant wakings. We did the transition by having a double bed in his room and slept with him there so he could fell comfortable in his own room (rather than ours) and at some point, he just started being ok by himself and not asking for company. We are doing the same with ds2 but as a really dedicated nurser (he is just over 2yo), I dont see that he will be sleeping through any time soon. Last night, dh went into him at 1:30, stayed with him for about 3 hours and dealt with a couple of stirrings, came back to me at 5:00. I got up to ds2 at 6:00 and nursed him and he is having a bit more of a snooze. For us, that is a really good night. I do think that often co-sleeping children do wake more but for us, it was the frequent waking that made us turn to co-sleeping not the other way around. It does get better eventually. cheers Leah |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
Co-sleeping=more night wakings???
Jrogold wrote:
four years. DS #1 woke once a night until he was over three and he stopped only because we welcomed him back into our bed when I was pregnant with number 2 so DH could watch him and I could sleep better. (Funny how the boy was back in our bed when DH took over the night times. DH was critical of the co-sleeping when I was the only one waking. LOL) So do you think co-sleeping children wake more? It's a scientifically proven fact that sleeping next to someone will provide your body with stimulus and you'll sleep less. This applies to adults and children. So if you managed to teach your child good sleep associations at a younger age then they would sleep thru the night and probably be very well rested and pleasant during the day (assuming everything else is going well). Some kids do have problems and I'm not advocating Ferber/CIO or any other methods. Whatever approach you take it's hard to find the facts about sleep. Everyone goes to the extremes which is really sad and unfair to the baby. I find that a lot of co-sleepers wrongly assume their babies are just poor sleepers, perpetually sick, just a fussy kid etc..etc.. and their children end up getting short changed on sleep. I see them developing such strong sleep associations that they can't even nap during the day unless mommy is there and she can't always be there. The other extreme is the nutjobs who think that at 8 weeks it's ok to let your baby cry for hours and whimper till they pass out. I met a couple in the park the other day who let their baby cry for 2hrs and she was just 2 weeks old. |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
frequent night wakings & BBTing (x posted) | ted | Pregnancy | 11 | December 17th 03 02:29 PM |
frequent night wakings & BBTing (x posted) | ted | Breastfeeding | 10 | December 17th 03 02:29 PM |
frequent night wakings & BBTing (x posted) | Bungee | Pregnancy | 0 | December 13th 03 07:22 PM |
frequent night wakings & BBTing (x posted) | Bungee | Breastfeeding | 0 | December 13th 03 07:22 PM |
milk supply, night weaning, pumping, and menstruation questions | Cathy Weeks | Breastfeeding | 9 | October 28th 03 08:12 PM |