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Dennis was U.N. rules Canada should ban spanking
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:43:44 GMT, "Dennis Hancock"
wrote: "Kane" wrote in message . com... On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 13:28:02 -0500, Jon Houts wrote: On 11 Oct 2003, Kane wrote: On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Ray Drouillard wrote: Interesting. All of the prisoners that he interviewed were spanked as children. Again, were they 'spanked' or were they beaten? I believe the researcher, one Fischer out of UOC school of social work many years ago, was simply looking for spanked. Your problem is to determine what is spanking and what is beating and this has been an area of considerable weakness in the claims made by pro spankers and apologists. What you might never accept as "spanking" might be so to someone else. I know I have frequently seen those on the pro side describe a thoroughgoing whipping as "a spanking and well deserved" even when they are the victim themselves. It is an area fraught with obstacles. I go around the issue, much to the consternation for some, by stating that deliberate punishment of a child is counterproductive to their learning and their mental health. Learning can be learning to do something, and that can include learning to do the required developmental work to excell and not be dysfunctional. A child spending too much time trying to mind is NOT learning about things like gravity, light, sound, and other physical phenomena, and they are sometimes leaving critical areas of the brain undeveloped through lack of exercise. I can make a warrior and factory worker by using punishment methods, but I'd be hard pressed to make a scholar, inventor, or other intellectual exceller. One could do a study of most of the greats of our society throughtout the past century or so and find a large number of them had also been spanked as very young children. No one couldn't. The greater the chances of greatness the greater the chances they were spanked less or not at all, and punishment wasn't much of a factor in most of their lives. I have worked with maladjusted children who were punished well who had everything wrong going on with them from socially malajusted to poor problem solving, to severe thinking errors, to being murderous homocidal maniacs. They don't come from being NOT punished. What does that study show? Well, since you said yourself that one "could" do such a study why don't you find one? I'll save you the trouble. None has been done to my knowledge. There is speculation only. I can offer you my observations in the hope that you too will look above your current knowledge and consider some other possibilities. After all, what harm would it do? You could always return, better armed perhaps, to defend spanking and punishment parenting. Have a good one, Kane |
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