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Are you a depressed gun owner?
On Jan 11, 1:28*pm, Bert Hyman wrote:
It's actually more screwed up than that. The original study didn't just say that you'd be more likely to be killed WITH the gun that was kept in the home, merely that you'd be more likely to be killed with SOME gun by some person. So, they apparently not only believed that the presence of a gun in the home was dangerous, but that it actually attracted killers to you. Magical thinking at its worst. Another good leftie myth is that you're more likely to be murdered by an acquaintance than not. This study defined the relationship between a prositute and her john as being an "acquaintance." Likewise, a drug dealer and his customer are also classified as "acquaintances." |
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Are you a depressed gun owner?
"Bert Hyman" wrote in message ... () wrote in : On Jan 11, 8:16 am, beebs wrote: On Jan 10, 8:21 pm, wrote: That's the exact approach taken by the American Academy of Pediatrics. " * A gun kept in the home is 43 times more likely to kill someone known to the family than to kill someone in self-defense. These are simplifications and distortions of the CDC epidemiological analyses. The authors backed away from the "43 times" in subsequent papers. But more importantly "someone known to the family" is a mere acquaintance, far more likely to be your drug-dealing rival than the meter reader or little Billy's mother. It's actually more screwed up than that. The original study didn't just say that you'd be more likely to be killed WITH the gun that was kept in the home, merely that you'd be more likely to be killed with SOME gun by some person. If I remember correctly, it was even worse than that. As long as a gun was present ANYWHERE then it was counted, even if it were a gun in the upstairs closet that wasn't even involved in or connected with the homicide that occurred. |
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Are you a depressed gun owner?
On Jan 11, 6:35 pm, "Scout"
wrote: "Bert Hyman" wrote in message ... () wrote in : On Jan 11, 8:16 am, beebs wrote: On Jan 10, 8:21 pm, wrote: That's the exact approach taken by the American Academy of Pediatrics. " * A gun kept in the home is 43 times more likely to kill someone known to the family than to kill someone in self-defense. These are simplifications and distortions of the CDC epidemiological analyses. The authors backed away from the "43 times" in subsequent papers. But more importantly "someone known to the family" is a mere acquaintance, far more likely to be your drug-dealing rival than the meter reader or little Billy's mother. It's actually more screwed up than that. The original study didn't just say that you'd be more likely to be killed WITH the gun that was kept in the home, merely that you'd be more likely to be killed with SOME gun by some person. If I remember correctly, it was even worse than that. As long as a gun was present ANYWHERE then it was counted, even if it were a gun in the upstairs closet that wasn't even involved in or connected with the homicide that occurred. Isn't that what Alex Jason says about burglars and gun owners, that burglars are afraid of home owners with guns to the extent that they avoid breaking into houses if they think the people living there have guns? The prophylactic and purely imaginary DGU? Alex Jason seems to be the source of much gunloon ideology, even though he makes pretty good sense most of the time and you idgits rarely do. -- Yours truly, The Lone Weasel |
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Are you a depressed gun owner?
"Scout" wrote in message news:LXThj.64$KU.41@trnddc01... "Bert Hyman" wrote in message ... It's actually more screwed up than that. The original study didn't just say that you'd be more likely to be killed WITH the gun that was kept in the home, merely that you'd be more likely to be killed with SOME gun by some person. If I remember correctly, it was even worse than that. As long as a gun was present ANYWHERE then it was counted, even if it were a gun in the upstairs closet that wasn't even involved in or connected with the homicide that occurred. They also counted it when you got murdered in (say) Las Vegas and you kept a shotgun in your closet back in Schenectady. |
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Are you a depressed gun owner?
"Scout" wrote in
news:LXThj.64$KU.41@trnddc01: "Bert Hyman" wrote in message ... () wrote in : On Jan 11, 8:16 am, beebs wrote: On Jan 10, 8:21 pm, wrote: That's the exact approach taken by the American Academy of Pediatrics. " * A gun kept in the home is 43 times more likely to kill someone known to the family than to kill someone in self-defense. These are simplifications and distortions of the CDC epidemiological analyses. The authors backed away from the "43 times" in subsequent papers. But more importantly "someone known to the family" is a mere acquaintance, far more likely to be your drug-dealing rival than the meter reader or little Billy's mother. It's actually more screwed up than that. The original study didn't just say that you'd be more likely to be killed WITH the gun that was kept in the home, merely that you'd be more likely to be killed with SOME gun by some person. If I remember correctly, it was even worse than that. As long as a gun was present ANYWHERE then it was counted, even if it were a gun in the upstairs closet that wasn't even involved in or connected with the homicide that occurred. Correct. -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse |
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