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Court Tells NJ Inmate To Keep Paying Child Support
"David Briggman" wrote in message .. . "Dusty" wrote in message ... The result... You go directly to jail. No trial for you, you're in "contempt of court" for "failure to pay" your debt. Dusty, you've got the picture perfectly, however, I think legally, we're tossed into jail for failing to obey an order of the Court. Tossing someone in jail for failing to pay a debt is illegal according to the 13th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States and most every state constitution in the Country. That's exactly the point David. NCPs, mostly men, get slammed with jail time for contempt of court. Getting charged with that little gem is exactly how judges get around the Constitution. Because they know full well that to arrest someone for failing to pay a debt is illegal. So instead, they call it contempt of court. The interesting thing about all this is that not paying one's CS is now a felony. But it's a debt. And it's a debt that one can never get out of - you can never claim CS arrears on a bankruptcy. So no matter what, you get stuck with it. And you can never get it lowered, thanks to the Bradley bill. The whole thing is so totally insane. A legal Catch-22. Judges know it's illegal, as do the politicians that came up with the idea for the Bradley bill. But, NCPs get stuck with it. So long as the cash is flowing into CSE coffers, they don't care one bit about the hardships and humiliation NCPs go through just to survive. But, once again, we have this nasty thing that keeps rearing it's ugly little head - the US Constitution. Judges run headlong into the 13th and their only recourse is to rename the charge against you and, once again, it becomes a contempt charge. It's the only loop-hole that they have to get around it. I told a judge once that the charge of "Failure to pay" was illegal. He loo ked me dead in the eye and said to me, "Fine, then we'll call it "contempt", let's see you weasel out of that with your damned Constitution." I got an invitation to the county lock-up for 60 days (suspended) for reminding that jackass that he was wrong. |
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Court Tells NJ Inmate To Keep Paying Child Support
"David Briggman" wrote in message .. . "Dusty" wrote in message ... The result... You go directly to jail. No trial for you, you're in "contempt of court" for "failure to pay" your debt. Dusty, you've got the picture perfectly, however, I think legally, we're tossed into jail for failing to obey an order of the Court. Tossing someone in jail for failing to pay a debt is illegal according to the 13th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States and most every state constitution in the Country. That's exactly the point David. NCPs, mostly men, get slammed with jail time for contempt of court. Getting charged with that little gem is exactly how judges get around the Constitution. Because they know full well that to arrest someone for failing to pay a debt is illegal. So instead, they call it contempt of court. The interesting thing about all this is that not paying one's CS is now a felony. But it's a debt. And it's a debt that one can never get out of - you can never claim CS arrears on a bankruptcy. So no matter what, you get stuck with it. And you can never get it lowered, thanks to the Bradley bill. The whole thing is so totally insane. A legal Catch-22. Judges know it's illegal, as do the politicians that came up with the idea for the Bradley bill. But, NCPs get stuck with it. So long as the cash is flowing into CSE coffers, they don't care one bit about the hardships and humiliation NCPs go through just to survive. But, once again, we have this nasty thing that keeps rearing it's ugly little head - the US Constitution. Judges run headlong into the 13th and their only recourse is to rename the charge against you and, once again, it becomes a contempt charge. It's the only loop-hole that they have to get around it. I told a judge once that the charge of "Failure to pay" was illegal. He loo ked me dead in the eye and said to me, "Fine, then we'll call it "contempt", let's see you weasel out of that with your damned Constitution." I got an invitation to the county lock-up for 60 days (suspended) for reminding that jackass that he was wrong. |
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Court Tells NJ Inmate To Keep Paying Child Support
"David Briggman" wrote in message .. . "Dusty" wrote in message ... The result... You go directly to jail. No trial for you, you're in "contempt of court" for "failure to pay" your debt. Dusty, you've got the picture perfectly, however, I think legally, we're tossed into jail for failing to obey an order of the Court. Tossing someone in jail for failing to pay a debt is illegal according to the 13th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States and most every state constitution in the Country. That's exactly the point David. NCPs, mostly men, get slammed with jail time for contempt of court. Getting charged with that little gem is exactly how judges get around the Constitution. Because they know full well that to arrest someone for failing to pay a debt is illegal. So instead, they call it contempt of court. The interesting thing about all this is that not paying one's CS is now a felony. But it's a debt. And it's a debt that one can never get out of - you can never claim CS arrears on a bankruptcy. So no matter what, you get stuck with it. And you can never get it lowered, thanks to the Bradley bill. The whole thing is so totally insane. A legal Catch-22. Judges know it's illegal, as do the politicians that came up with the idea for the Bradley bill. But, NCPs get stuck with it. So long as the cash is flowing into CSE coffers, they don't care one bit about the hardships and humiliation NCPs go through just to survive. But, once again, we have this nasty thing that keeps rearing it's ugly little head - the US Constitution. Judges run headlong into the 13th and their only recourse is to rename the charge against you and, once again, it becomes a contempt charge. It's the only loop-hole that they have to get around it. I told a judge once that the charge of "Failure to pay" was illegal. He loo ked me dead in the eye and said to me, "Fine, then we'll call it "contempt", let's see you weasel out of that with your damned Constitution." I got an invitation to the county lock-up for 60 days (suspended) for reminding that jackass that he was wrong. |
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