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Old April 19th 04, 12:38 AM
Dusty
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"David Briggman" wrote in message
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"Dusty" wrote in message
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The result... You go directly to jail. No trial for you, you're in
"contempt of court" for "failure to pay" your debt.


Dusty, you've got the picture perfectly, however, I think legally, we're
tossed into jail for failing to obey an order of the Court.

Tossing someone in jail for failing to pay a debt is illegal according to
the 13th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States and most every
state constitution in the Country.


That's exactly the point David. NCPs, mostly men, get slammed with jail
time for contempt of court. Getting charged with that little gem is exactly
how judges get around the Constitution. Because they know full well that to
arrest someone for failing to pay a debt is illegal. So instead, they call
it contempt of court.

The interesting thing about all this is that not paying one's CS is now a
felony. But it's a debt. And it's a debt that one can never get out of -
you can never claim CS arrears on a bankruptcy. So no matter what, you get
stuck with it. And you can never get it lowered, thanks to the Bradley
bill.

The whole thing is so totally insane. A legal Catch-22. Judges know it's
illegal, as do the politicians that came up with the idea for the Bradley
bill. But, NCPs get stuck with it. So long as the cash is flowing into CSE
coffers, they don't care one bit about the hardships and humiliation NCPs go
through just to survive.

But, once again, we have this nasty thing that keeps rearing it's ugly
little head - the US Constitution. Judges run headlong into the 13th and
their only recourse is to rename the charge against you and, once again, it
becomes a contempt charge. It's the only loop-hole that they have to get
around it.

I told a judge once that the charge of "Failure to pay" was illegal. He loo
ked me dead in the eye and said to me, "Fine, then we'll call it "contempt",
let's see you weasel out of that with your damned Constitution." I got an
invitation to the county lock-up for 60 days (suspended) for reminding that
jackass that he was wrong.


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Old April 19th 04, 12:38 AM
Dusty
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Default Court Tells NJ Inmate To Keep Paying Child Support


"David Briggman" wrote in message
.. .

"Dusty" wrote in message
...


The result... You go directly to jail. No trial for you, you're in
"contempt of court" for "failure to pay" your debt.


Dusty, you've got the picture perfectly, however, I think legally, we're
tossed into jail for failing to obey an order of the Court.

Tossing someone in jail for failing to pay a debt is illegal according to
the 13th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States and most every
state constitution in the Country.


That's exactly the point David. NCPs, mostly men, get slammed with jail
time for contempt of court. Getting charged with that little gem is exactly
how judges get around the Constitution. Because they know full well that to
arrest someone for failing to pay a debt is illegal. So instead, they call
it contempt of court.

The interesting thing about all this is that not paying one's CS is now a
felony. But it's a debt. And it's a debt that one can never get out of -
you can never claim CS arrears on a bankruptcy. So no matter what, you get
stuck with it. And you can never get it lowered, thanks to the Bradley
bill.

The whole thing is so totally insane. A legal Catch-22. Judges know it's
illegal, as do the politicians that came up with the idea for the Bradley
bill. But, NCPs get stuck with it. So long as the cash is flowing into CSE
coffers, they don't care one bit about the hardships and humiliation NCPs go
through just to survive.

But, once again, we have this nasty thing that keeps rearing it's ugly
little head - the US Constitution. Judges run headlong into the 13th and
their only recourse is to rename the charge against you and, once again, it
becomes a contempt charge. It's the only loop-hole that they have to get
around it.

I told a judge once that the charge of "Failure to pay" was illegal. He loo
ked me dead in the eye and said to me, "Fine, then we'll call it "contempt",
let's see you weasel out of that with your damned Constitution." I got an
invitation to the county lock-up for 60 days (suspended) for reminding that
jackass that he was wrong.


  #13  
Old April 19th 04, 12:38 AM
Dusty
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Posts: n/a
Default Court Tells NJ Inmate To Keep Paying Child Support


"David Briggman" wrote in message
.. .

"Dusty" wrote in message
...


The result... You go directly to jail. No trial for you, you're in
"contempt of court" for "failure to pay" your debt.


Dusty, you've got the picture perfectly, however, I think legally, we're
tossed into jail for failing to obey an order of the Court.

Tossing someone in jail for failing to pay a debt is illegal according to
the 13th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States and most every
state constitution in the Country.


That's exactly the point David. NCPs, mostly men, get slammed with jail
time for contempt of court. Getting charged with that little gem is exactly
how judges get around the Constitution. Because they know full well that to
arrest someone for failing to pay a debt is illegal. So instead, they call
it contempt of court.

The interesting thing about all this is that not paying one's CS is now a
felony. But it's a debt. And it's a debt that one can never get out of -
you can never claim CS arrears on a bankruptcy. So no matter what, you get
stuck with it. And you can never get it lowered, thanks to the Bradley
bill.

The whole thing is so totally insane. A legal Catch-22. Judges know it's
illegal, as do the politicians that came up with the idea for the Bradley
bill. But, NCPs get stuck with it. So long as the cash is flowing into CSE
coffers, they don't care one bit about the hardships and humiliation NCPs go
through just to survive.

But, once again, we have this nasty thing that keeps rearing it's ugly
little head - the US Constitution. Judges run headlong into the 13th and
their only recourse is to rename the charge against you and, once again, it
becomes a contempt charge. It's the only loop-hole that they have to get
around it.

I told a judge once that the charge of "Failure to pay" was illegal. He loo
ked me dead in the eye and said to me, "Fine, then we'll call it "contempt",
let's see you weasel out of that with your damned Constitution." I got an
invitation to the county lock-up for 60 days (suspended) for reminding that
jackass that he was wrong.


 




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