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Yet another media strike against AP!
Stephanie and Tim wrote: "Marie" wrote in message ... ted wrote in message . .. Meanwhile, this child has been deprived of the inestimable benefit of learning that he was not a member of the wedding, that the marriage is not a threesome. Who is this guy? Does he know what he's talking about? What a horrible thing to say! The only thing I've ever agreed with him about is toilet training. Everything else is really stupid sounding, cold-hearted and mean. Some people really have a big problem with children in the "marriage" bed. Strange, b/c dh and I have a marriage everywhere we are, not just in our bedroom. Ha, my kids were part of my wedding ;o) Guess that means it's ok for them to sleep with us? Marie Well, I have no problem with other people who want to cosleep safely. But this newsgroup gets to be a pretty unfriendly place regarding the issue of cosleeping sometimes. *I* like having no children in our bed. Like the Ted Bundy (or someone) comment above. Should this group be renamed radical AP instead? If so, I will take my bf issues elsewhere when my baby is born. S I think there are plenty of people on this newsgroup who weren't too fond of co-sleeping. I'm one of them. We did it for awhile with my first child because it was the best way to get her to sleep, but it was terrible for *our* sleep. The heck with the marriage bed; I wanted the sleeping bed. I lucked out with the 2nd, who never minded a crib. Clisby Clisby |
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Yet another media strike against AP!
Of course, with Rosemond, it is no surprise that he has yet another article
against an AP tenet, but this one I think is bad. Grandma needs to mind her own business. It's not the parents who are writing in complaining! Access it at www.rosemond.com July 8, 2003 John's Weekly Column: 07/08/2003 "The Family Bed" by John Rosemond Q: My 2-year-old grandson has slept with his parents since he was born, but with the birth of a third child (he has a 4-year-old sister), he was moved to a bed of his own in an adjoining room. Since he refuses to cooperate in the new sleeping arrangements, either my son or daughter-in-law rocks him to sleep, which might take an hour or more. Then, without fail, he wakes up in the middle of the night and goes to his parents' bed where the new baby is sleeping. The parents try to make him go back to his bed, but oftentimes, the father goes to the other room to sleep. At other times, the 2-year-old wakes up his older sister and together they wake up the entire house with their shenanigans. What can a grandma do to help in a situation like this? A: Let this be a lesson to all who are reading this that while the "family bed" may seem warm and fuzzy, it often devolves into chaos of this sort. If this 2-year-old had been trained to sleep in his own bed since birth, this would not be happening. Assuming no other behavior problems had developed, he'd be a well-adjusted child who was perfectly content with a room and a bed of his own. Despite the claims of "family bed" advocates, not one study done by an objective researcher has demonstrated benefit in either the short- or long-term to the children so bedded. The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends against the practice, noting that infants are sometimes smothered by parents who inadvertently roll over on them in the night or as a result of getting tangled in king size sheets and blankets. Rarely do I meet a father who has chosen to initiate this unnecessary practice. It's nearly always the mother's call, and the mother in question is almost invariably one who has bought into the propaganda that bedding with her child promotes mother-child bonding. If the other moms in her social group are bedding with their kids, she feels the additional pressure of not wanting to be the most "un-bonded" mom in the neighborhood. There are no two ways about it, a child who sleeps with his parents develops a dependency upon sleeping with his parents, one that comes back to haunt all concerned when the parents decide the child's presence in the bed has become inconvenient. Meanwhile, this child has been deprived of the inestimable benefit of learning that he was not a member of the wedding, that the marriage is not a threesome. During my private practice years, I saw a lot of these kids. They were, as a rule, not happy campers. The parents in the above question are obviously slow learners as they're making the same mistake with the newborn. What can Grandma do to help? She can say, "When you would like some old-fashioned advice from an old-fashioned older woman who is obviously out of step with the times, don't hesitate to ask." While she's waiting for her son and daughter-in-law to come to their senses, she might consider cutting this column out of her local paper and mailing it to her them in a plain brown envelope, sans return address. koa Still nursing James, 02/06/01 EP'ing for Joey 04/02/03 (BCP) |
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Yet another media strike against AP!
John Rosemond wrote in a column:
Assuming no other behavior problems had developed, he'd be a well-adjusted child who was perfectly content with a room and a bed of his own. Well, duh. If no other behavior problems had developed, he'd be the perfect child, no? At least he'd look like one. Anyone remember Pet Rocks? I think some people ought to have Rock Babies. They do behave themselves awfully well, and you don't have to rock them -- they're already permanently rocked :-) --Helen |
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Yet another media strike against AP!
Karen Askey wrote:
During my private practice years, I saw a lot of these kids. They were, as a rule, not happy campers. The parents in the above question are obviously slow learners as they're making the same mistake with the newborn. Really? I guess StupidHead didn't think that the 2yo is doing it cause he wants the attention that the newborn's getting. E |
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Yet another media strike against AP!
"Elana" wrote in message ... Karen Askey wrote: During my private practice years, I saw a lot of these kids. They were, as a rule, not happy campers. The parents in the above question are obviously slow learners as they're making the same mistake with the newborn. Really? I guess StupidHead didn't think that the 2yo is doing it cause he wants the attention that the newborn's getting. sarcasmRight, and I suppose that two-year olds who have been "trained from birth" to sleep in their own bed in their own room *never* display any attention-getting behavior when a new sibling arrives./sarcasm Belphoebe |
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Yet another media strike against AP!
Meanwhile, this child has been deprived of the inestimable benefit of learning
that he was not a member of the wedding, that the marriage is not a threesome. Who is this guy? Does he know what he's talking about? What a horrible thing to say! |
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Yet another media strike against AP!
ted wrote in message . ..
Meanwhile, this child has been deprived of the inestimable benefit of learning that he was not a member of the wedding, that the marriage is not a threesome. Who is this guy? Does he know what he's talking about? What a horrible thing to say! The only thing I've ever agreed with him about is toilet training. Everything else is really stupid sounding, cold-hearted and mean. Some people really have a big problem with children in the "marriage" bed. Strange, b/c dh and I have a marriage everywhere we are, not just in our bedroom. Ha, my kids were part of my wedding ;o) Guess that means it's ok for them to sleep with us? Marie |
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Yet another media strike against AP!
"Marie" wrote in message ... ted wrote in message . .. Meanwhile, this child has been deprived of the inestimable benefit of learning that he was not a member of the wedding, that the marriage is not a threesome. Who is this guy? Does he know what he's talking about? What a horrible thing to say! The only thing I've ever agreed with him about is toilet training. Everything else is really stupid sounding, cold-hearted and mean. Some people really have a big problem with children in the "marriage" bed. Strange, b/c dh and I have a marriage everywhere we are, not just in our bedroom. Ha, my kids were part of my wedding ;o) Guess that means it's ok for them to sleep with us? Marie Well, I have no problem with other people who want to cosleep safely. But this newsgroup gets to be a pretty unfriendly place regarding the issue of cosleeping sometimes. *I* like having no children in our bed. Like the Ted Bundy (or someone) comment above. Should this group be renamed radical AP instead? If so, I will take my bf issues elsewhere when my baby is born. S |
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