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Old July 8th 06, 01:42 AM posted to alt.circumcision,alt.parenting.solutions,misc.kids,soc.men
Keegan MacIntosh
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Mom apologizes

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Printed with permission of the magazine:

Compleat Mother Magazine Spring'06 page 55 ~
Please print my apologies.
My beautiful boy, Evan, I am so sorry I did not learn more about
circumcision before you were born. I am sorry we made the quick and
thoughtless decision to get you circumcised so you would not look
different
from your dad. It is ok to look different. I am so sorry I never
changed
your diaper at the hospital and I never saw what you looked like
intact. I
was ignorant. I am so sorry.
My beautiful boy, Colby, I am so sorry I was weak and caved when it
came to the decision about your circumcision.
I am sorry we made the decision to get you circumcised so you would not
look different from your dad and your brother. It is ok to look
different.
You were born in a birth center and I changed your diapers for a week
before
you were circumcised. Every time I saw you intact, I felt sad for Evan.
I
cried and talked to your Dad and others around me. But hardly anyone
wanted
to talk about it, or if they did, they said it was better to do it as a
baby
when you would not remember having it done, it would be too painful to
have
it done as an adult, and your self-esteem would be damaged for looking
different. When I saw that device attached to you at the pediatrician's
office as he circumcised you, I couldn't believe the cruelty. I felt so
small there, like I was a kid again with no say in the matter. But I'm
an
adult now and I should not have been so passive. I should have fought
tooth
and nail to keep you intact. I am so sorry.
My beautiful husband, I am so sorry that I was weak and passive and
agreed to circumcise our boys. I am sorry someone circumcised you. None
of
you were allowed to decide for yourselves whether to remain intact or
not. I
could have given your sons that choice, but I did not. I am so sorry.
Jennifer Vaughn, Corvallis, Oregon

~ Spring'06 page 55 ~

Compleat Mother Magazine
Box 209, Minot, ND 58702

Website: www.CompleatMother.com
Email:
Phone: (701) 852-2822

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=479970

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Old July 8th 06, 04:12 AM posted to alt.circumcision,alt.parenting.solutions,misc.kids,soc.men,alt.mothers
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Default Mom apologizes

Keegan MacIntosh wrote:

Mom apologizes
Printed with permission of the magazine:
Compleat Mother Magazine Spring'06 page 55 ~
Please print my apologies.
My beautiful boy, Evan, I am so sorry I did not learn more about
circumcision before you were born. I am sorry we made the quick and
thoughtless decision to get you circumcised so you would not look
different from your dad. It


Where's my apology for having to read through her heeby jeebie
dreck?eheheeh Only among the intellectually challenged, could
circumcision be seen as a controversial subject matter. eh The same
Idiot's Parade of Mental Defectives who attend the Genital Integrity
March in D.C! LOL! All 100 of 'em! ehehee Each one crazier than the
next! eh -D, NYC "If all 2,000,000 boys born in the US annually were
circumcised, the following would be prevented during their lifetimes:
7,000 cases of HIV, 10,000 cases of syphilis, 20,000 cases of
pyeleonephritis, 2,000 with concurrent bacterema, 1,500 cases of
hypertension, 150 cases of end stage renal disease, 2,000 cases of
penile cancer, 200,000 cases of phimosis, and 250,000-500,000 cases of
balanophimosis" - PROFESSOR BRIAN MORRIS, 30+ years of unbias research
on the benefits of circumcision, www.circinfo.net

is ok to look different. I am so sorry I never
changed
your diaper at the hospital and I never saw what you looked like
intact. I
was ignorant. I am so sorry.
My beautiful boy, Colby, I am so sorry I was weak and caved when it
came to the decision about your circumcision.
I am sorry we made the decision to get you circumcised so you would not
look different from your dad and your brother. It is ok to look
different.
You were born in a birth center and I changed your diapers for a week
before
you were circumcised. Every time I saw you intact, I felt sad for Evan.
I
cried and talked to your Dad and others around me. But hardly anyone
wanted
to talk about it, or if they did, they said it was better to do it as a
baby
when you would not remember having it done, it would be too painful to
have
it done as an adult, and your self-esteem would be damaged for looking
different. When I saw that device attached to you at the pediatrician's
office as he circumcised you, I couldn't believe the cruelty. I felt so
small there, like I was a kid again with no say in the matter. But I'm
an
adult now and I should not have been so passive. I should have fought
tooth
and nail to keep you intact. I am so sorry.
My beautiful husband, I am so sorry that I was weak and passive and
agreed to circumcise our boys. I am sorry someone circumcised you. None
of
you were allowed to decide for yourselves whether to remain intact or
not. I
could have given your sons that choice, but I did not. I am so sorry.
Jennifer Vaughn, Corvallis, Oregon

~ Spring'06 page 55 ~

Compleat Mother Magazine
Box 209, Minot, ND 58702

Website: www.CompleatMother.com
Email:
Phone: (701) 852-2822

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=479970


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Old July 9th 06, 10:23 PM posted to alt.circumcision,alt.parenting.solutions,misc.kids,soc.men
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L. wrote:
Keegan MacIntosh wrote:
Mom apologizes


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I am still angry that we didn't get to choose. Our son was done before
he was placed with us. If we had been able to choose, he would be
intact.

-L.


That's terrible. It's HIS choice to be circumcised at age 18 if he
wants. If he wants to get a tattoo, that's his prerogative, too. You
have an opportunity to educate when he's older (say, 7 or so) to say
that you wouldn't have put him through an operation that's unrequired.
When he's older (say, 16 or 17), you can teach him about foreskin
restoration.



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Old July 10th 06, 08:54 AM posted to alt.circumcision,alt.parenting.solutions,misc.kids,soc.men
ponysteel
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I Can't believe that anyone could write such rubbish! Your sons are
lucky that they were circumcised shortly after birth. That way they
have all the many benefits from the outset and they don't have to go
through the rigmarole of having it done when they get older. There is
no downside to being circumcised - FACT and the sooner people stop
listening to these ridiculous anti-circ idiots the better!

Ponysteel

Keegan MacIntosh wrote:
Mom apologizes

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Printed with permission of the magazine:

Compleat Mother Magazine Spring'06 page 55 ~
Please print my apologies.
My beautiful boy, Evan, I am so sorry I did not learn more about
circumcision before you were born. I am sorry we made the quick and
thoughtless decision to get you circumcised so you would not look
different
from your dad. It is ok to look different. I am so sorry I never
changed
your diaper at the hospital and I never saw what you looked like
intact. I
was ignorant. I am so sorry.
My beautiful boy, Colby, I am so sorry I was weak and caved when it
came to the decision about your circumcision.
I am sorry we made the decision to get you circumcised so you would not
look different from your dad and your brother. It is ok to look
different.
You were born in a birth center and I changed your diapers for a week
before
you were circumcised. Every time I saw you intact, I felt sad for Evan.
I
cried and talked to your Dad and others around me. But hardly anyone
wanted
to talk about it, or if they did, they said it was better to do it as a
baby
when you would not remember having it done, it would be too painful to
have
it done as an adult, and your self-esteem would be damaged for looking
different. When I saw that device attached to you at the pediatrician's
office as he circumcised you, I couldn't believe the cruelty. I felt so
small there, like I was a kid again with no say in the matter. But I'm
an
adult now and I should not have been so passive. I should have fought
tooth
and nail to keep you intact. I am so sorry.
My beautiful husband, I am so sorry that I was weak and passive and
agreed to circumcise our boys. I am sorry someone circumcised you. None
of
you were allowed to decide for yourselves whether to remain intact or
not. I
could have given your sons that choice, but I did not. I am so sorry.
Jennifer Vaughn, Corvallis, Oregon

~ Spring'06 page 55 ~

Compleat Mother Magazine
Box 209, Minot, ND 58702

Website: www.CompleatMother.com
Email:
Phone: (701) 852-2822

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=479970


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Old July 11th 06, 02:39 AM posted to alt.circumcision,alt.parenting.solutions,misc.kids,soc.men
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ponysteel wrote:
I Can't believe that anyone could write such rubbish! Your sons are
lucky that they were circumcised shortly after birth. That way they
have all the many benefits from the outset and they don't have to go
through the rigmarole of having it done when they get older. There is
no downside to being circumcised - FACT and the sooner people stop
listening to these ridiculous anti-circ idiots the better!

Ponysteel


Okay, you are happy you were mutilated at birth, but that doesn't mean
every boy wants a valuable part of his penis cut off against his will
for life. There's nothing appealing about a circumcised penis w/ an
ugly ring (circ scar) on it and dried out, less sensitive head (glans).

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=477750


Keegan MacIntosh wrote:
Mom apologizes

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Printed with permission of the magazine:

Compleat Mother Magazine Spring'06 page 55 ~
Please print my apologies.
My beautiful boy, Evan, I am so sorry I did not learn more about
circumcision before you were born. I am sorry we made the quick and
thoughtless decision to get you circumcised so you would not look
different
from your dad. It is ok to look different. I am so sorry I never
changed
your diaper at the hospital and I never saw what you looked like
intact. I
was ignorant. I am so sorry.
My beautiful boy, Colby, I am so sorry I was weak and caved when it
came to the decision about your circumcision.
I am sorry we made the decision to get you circumcised so you would not
look different from your dad and your brother. It is ok to look
different.
You were born in a birth center and I changed your diapers for a week
before
you were circumcised. Every time I saw you intact, I felt sad for Evan.
I
cried and talked to your Dad and others around me. But hardly anyone
wanted
to talk about it, or if they did, they said it was better to do it as a
baby
when you would not remember having it done, it would be too painful to
have
it done as an adult, and your self-esteem would be damaged for looking
different. When I saw that device attached to you at the pediatrician's
office as he circumcised you, I couldn't believe the cruelty. I felt so
small there, like I was a kid again with no say in the matter. But I'm
an
adult now and I should not have been so passive. I should have fought
tooth
and nail to keep you intact. I am so sorry.
My beautiful husband, I am so sorry that I was weak and passive and
agreed to circumcise our boys. I am sorry someone circumcised you. None
of
you were allowed to decide for yourselves whether to remain intact or
not. I
could have given your sons that choice, but I did not. I am so sorry.
Jennifer Vaughn, Corvallis, Oregon

~ Spring'06 page 55 ~

Compleat Mother Magazine
Box 209, Minot, ND 58702

Website: www.CompleatMother.com
Email:
Phone: (701) 852-2822

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=479970


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Old July 11th 06, 03:34 AM posted to alt.circumcision,alt.parenting.solutions,misc.kids,soc.men
R. Steve Walz
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ponysteel wrote:

I Can't believe that anyone could write such rubbish! Your sons are
lucky that they were circumcised shortly after birth. That way they
have all the many benefits from the outset and they don't have to go
through the rigmarole of having it done when they get older.

------------------
NOBODY does that, you filthy stupid ****ing liar!


There is no downside to being circumcised

--------------------
WRONG! You have more sexual pleasure and please women better
with a foreskin moving as it's supposed to do!
Steve
  #8  
Old July 11th 06, 10:36 AM posted to alt.circumcision,alt.parenting.solutions,misc.kids,soc.men
Jake Waskett
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:34:41 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:

ponysteel wrote:

I Can't believe that anyone could write such rubbish! Your sons are
lucky that they were circumcised shortly after birth. That way they
have all the many benefits from the outset and they don't have to go
through the rigmarole of having it done when they get older.

------------------
NOBODY does that, you filthy stupid ****ing liar!


Calm down, Steve. You're demonstrably incorrect. Both Ponysteel and I have
done so.



There is no downside to being circumcised

--------------------
WRONG! You have more sexual pleasure and please women better
with a foreskin moving as it's supposed to do!


Nonsense.

Steve


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Old July 11th 06, 10:40 AM posted to alt.circumcision,alt.parenting.solutions,misc.kids,soc.men
Jake Waskett
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:39:42 -0700, joshua.hutcherson wrote:


ponysteel wrote:
I Can't believe that anyone could write such rubbish! Your sons are
lucky that they were circumcised shortly after birth. That way they
have all the many benefits from the outset and they don't have to go
through the rigmarole of having it done when they get older. There is
no downside to being circumcised - FACT and the sooner people stop
listening to these ridiculous anti-circ idiots the better!

Ponysteel


Okay, you are happy you were mutilated at birth, but that doesn't mean
every boy wants a valuable part of his penis cut off against his will
for life. There's nothing appealing about a circumcised penis w/ an
ugly ring (circ scar) on it and dried out, less sensitive head (glans).


*Sigh*

When will people realise that this old myth was wrong? It was never
based upon any evidence, just speculation. Four studies have assessed the
sensitivity of the glans, and every one of them has found that there is no
difference between circumcised and uncircumcised males.
  #10  
Old July 12th 06, 09:57 PM posted to alt.circumcision,alt.parenting.solutions,misc.kids,soc.men,alt.mothers
Dr. Lippschitz
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Hey the schmuck is back from Bellevue.


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Keegan MacIntosh wrote:

Mom apologizes
Where's my apology for having to read through her heeby jeebie

dreck?eheheeh Only among the intellectually challenged, could
circumcision be seen as a controversial subject matter. eh The same
Idiot's Parade of Mental Defectives who attend the Genital Integrity
March in D.C! LOL! All 100 of 'em! ehehee Each one crazier than the
next! eh -D, NYC "If all 2,000,000 boys born in the US annually were
circumcised, the following would be prevented during their lifetimes:
7,000 cases of HIV, 10,000 cases of syphilis, 20,000 cases of
pyeleonephritis, 2,000 with concurrent bacterema, 1,500 cases of
hypertension, 150 cases of end stage renal disease, 2,000 cases of
penile cancer, 200,000 cases of phimosis, and 250,000-500,000 cases of
balanophimosis" - PROFESSOR BRIAN MORRIS, 30+ years of unbias research
on the benefits of circumcision, www.circinfo.net


But there would be 200,000 more cases of impotence.





 




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