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Having many special-needs kids can weigh on family, marriage:Comments....
1. Comment by Hollis G. (hollis) — July 15,2007 @ 2:21AM
Rating: 13 Thumbs Up This reminds me of the people who take in more pets than they should. There should be more frequent visits to all houses of those who care for special-needs children, to make sure both the parents and kids are doing ok. 2. Comment by R T. (#4829) — July 15,2007 @ 3:56AM Rating: 12 Thumbs Up #1, the visits that should come are the visits of help. my kids are autistic, food allergies, ADHD and so forth. the school is always calling CPS with unfounded reports. unless you have special needs kids you have no clue what it is like. it is very hard, emotionally draining and will put a strain on any relationship. from my situation the school sees a rash, scrape, bruise, wrong clothes, a itch, wrong hair cut style, pretty much anything they call. the worse part is, the school blows smoke up my ass saying its trying to help. if the school wants to help it should think before it calls CPS 3. Comment by Annie H. (saladfork) — July 15,2007 @ 6:03AM Rating: 13 Thumbs Up As a former caseworker I found placing any more than 1-2 special needs kids into a single family strained it to near breaking point. In fact I saw more than a few homes break up even at that level. The foster care system needs more willing homes so they can stop overloading homes. But its hard to find those homes due to the life committment, the committment of resourses and the lack of outside support. 4. Comment by Merle S. (#5415) — July 15,2007 @ 8:29AM Rating: 14 Thumbs Up Allowing these folks to adopt 19 children, even perfectly developed ones, is a poor idea. Allowing them to have that many severely disabled children is just criminal. 5. Comment by Lori S. (Loris) — July 15,2007 @ 9:24AM Rating: 11 Thumbs Up "The couple relied on subsidies from the various states from which the children were adopted. They also received Social Security in addition to their own savings and credit. But the subsidies have stopped, and Karin Wilson said their home will soon be for sale." They no longer have the children. And now they can't pay their bills. Children as Chattel (subsidies) 6. Comment by Virginia G. (VAinTucson) — July 15,2007 @ 10:42AM Rating: 5 Thumbs Up "Karin Wilson said she did not want to trivialize the incident, but characterized it as a momentary breakdown." Okay, wasn't this the same guy who had another "momentary breakdown" last year when he blocked a school bus in his driveway, holding it hostage until the news crews arrived, because he had an issue with how his kids were being treated on the bus? I think that it's time that these kids be moved from their current "warehouse-for-profit" environment and placed in safer and more appropriate surroundings. Kuddos to CPS! 7. Comment by Lori S. (Loris) — July 15,2007 @ 12:16PM Rating: 4 Thumbs Up HHS Awards Adoption Bonuses to States On October 14, 2004, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Tommy G. Thompson announced the awarding of $17,896,000 in adoption bonuses to 31 States and Puerto Rico. The funding comes from the Adoption Incentives Program and is given to States that were successful in increasing the number of adoptions from the public child welfare system over the number of adoptions in 2002. The bonuses go to State child welfare agencies for a variety of child welfare and other related services including adoption and adoption-related services. The Adoption Incentive Program, which was revised and strengthened last December by the Bush Administration, [actually Democrats advocate socialist policies - it takes a village to raise a child - Hilliary, and the like. If you notice our reps that fight FOR families, Paton, Karen Johnson, Knaperek, et al are Republican, Napolitano, Goddard, etc are Demo.I am indep't, ex-Repub] Two key changes that strengthen States' adoption and child welfare services a An additional bonus of $4,000 to States for each child aged 9 and above adopted from the public child welfare system. This bonus is on top of the current $4,000 provided for each child and on top of the $2,000 bonus for each special needs child adopted. The threshold to receive incentives has been reset based on the number of adoptions in FY 2002, making States that reached their highest number of adoptions in the earlier years of the program more likely to qualify for a bonus. [STEAL MORE KIDS FOR MONEY] ========== GOVERNMENT RUN CHILD MARKETING SCAM Subject: How the Family System Really Works Adoption Bonuses: The Money Behind the Madness No Happy Ending for These Children DSS and Affiliates Rewarded for Breaking Up Families by Nev Moore, Massachusetts News Where to Find the Children A whole new industry was put into motion. A sweet marketing scheme that even Bill Gates could envy. Now, if you have a basket of apples, and people start giving you $100 per apple, what are you going to do? Make sure that you have an unlimited supply of apples, right? The United States Department of Health & Human Services administers Child Protective Services. To accompany the ASF Act, the President requested, by executive memorandum, an initiative entitled Adoption 2002, to be implemented and managed by Health & Human Services. The initiative not only gives the cash adoption bonuses to the states, it also provides cash adoption subsidies to adoptive parents until the children turn eighteen. Everybody makes money. If anyone really believes that these people are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts, then I've got some bad news for you. The fact that this program is run by HHS, ordered from the very top, explains why the citizens who are victims of DSS get no response from their legislators. It explains why no one in the Administration cares about the abuse and fatalities of children in the "care" of DSS, and no one wants to hear about the broken arms, verbal abuse, or rapes. They are just business casualties. It explains why the legislators I've talked to for the past three years look at me with pity. Because I'm preaching to the already damned. The legislators have forgotten who funds their paychecks and who they need to account to, as has the Governor. Because it isn't the President. It's us. How DSS Is Helped The way that the adoption bonuses work is that each state is given a baseline number of expected adoptions based on population. For every child that DSS can get adopted, there is a bonus of $4,000 to $6,000. But that is just the starting figure in a complex mathematical formula in which each bonus is multiplied by the percentage that the state has managed to exceed its baseline adoption number. The states must maintain this increase in each successive year. [Like compound interest.] The bill reads: "$4,000 to $6,000 will be multiplied by the amount (if any) by which the number of foster child adoptions in the State exceeds the base number of foster child adoptions for the State for the fiscal year." 8. Comment by Lori S. (Loris) — July 15,2007 @ 12:19PM Rating: 7 Thumbs Up Virginia, they get more money every time they move them. Statistics add up to "averages" which is what the federal funding is based on - see above articles. Sometimes (not usually, but it does happen) they even do this to foster parents (false accusations) to move them to get more money. The bad foster parents, what about them? Ask the parents of Mays, Hill, others... It has nothing to do with protection, nothing at all - just the green. 9. Comment by Lori S. (Loris) — July 15,2007 @ 12:31PM Rating: 7 Thumbs Up That is right from the Federal DHHS site. Also see Child Welfare Bureau. All stats, money, etc I ever post is right from the horses mouth. check it yourself. - YOUR social security money. TITLE IV—GRANTS TO STATES FOR CHILD-WELFARE SERVICES [1] Part B—Child and Family Services Subpart 1—Child Welfare Services Sec. 420. [Repealed.] Sec. 421. Purpose Sec. 422. State plans for child welfare services Sec. 423. Allotments to States Sec. 424. Payment to States Sec. 425. Limitations on authorization of appropriations Sec. 426. Research, training, or demonstration projects Sec. 427. [Repealed.] Sec. 428. Payments to Indian tribal organizations Sec. 429. National random sample study of child welfare Subpart 2—Promoting Safe and Stable Families Sec. 430. Findings and Purpose Sec. 431. Definitions Sec. 432. State plans Sec. 433. Allotments to States Sec. 434. Payments to States Sec. 435. Evaluations; Research; Technical Assistance Sec. 436 Authorization of appropriations; Reservation of certain amounts Sec. 437 Discretionary and Targeted Grants Sec. 438 Entitlement funding for State courts to assess and improve handling of proceedings relating to foster care and adoption Sec. 439 Grants for programs for mentoring children of prisoners Part E—Federal Payments for Foster Care and Adoption Assistance Sec. 470. Purpose: appropriation Sec. 471. State plan for foster care and adoption assistance Sec. 472. Foster care maintenance payments program Sec. 473. Adoption assistance program Sec. 473A. Adoption incentive payments Sec. 473B. Timely interstate home study incentive payments Sec. 474. Payments to States; Allotments to States Sec. 475. Definitions Sec. 476. Technical assistance; Data collection and evaluation Sec. 477. John H. Chafee foster care independence program Sec. 478. Rule of construction Sec. 479. Collection of data relating to adoption and foster care Sec. 479A. Annual report [1] Title IV of the Social Security Act is administered by the Department of Health and Human Services. The Administration for Public Services, Office of Human Development Services, administers social services under Title IV, Parts B and E. http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/ssact/title04/0400.htm ====================== STate- they get matched by the feds! [Kidnapping incentive] - Nappi, are you listening???? Summary of the Final CPS Bill HB2024 December 15, 2003 HB2024 Appropriation · Provides $10.3 million be appropriated to DES from the general fund to maintain current staffing and service levels for child protective services. Excuses DES from the provisions of 35-131 (D)(2), which would otherwise require that DES report monthly how it will reduce services and staff to meet the shortfall. · Provides for $6,304,300 million to fund reform efforts that will allow CPS to conduct 100% investigations of reports of abuse and neglect, reduce caseloads of CPS workers to national standards, provide additional compensation for CPS workers (including monthly stipends for CPS investigators), increase the foster rate reimbursement rate for foster parents (first increase since 1996) and replace outdated information technology equipment. · Provides for $675,000 for FY2003-2004 through FY2005-2006 from the state general fund to DES for residential drug treatment. · Provides for $25,000 to fund an additional position to DHS to conduct the home inspections for the licensing of foster homes. 10. Comment by Bobo A. (#4323) — July 15,2007 @ 1:15PM Rating: 7 Thumbs Up #2 - RT- As you know, if a school employee has reason to suspect abuse or neglect s/he is required by law to report it. Since many severely disabled children cannot express how an injury occurred, everything can become suspicious. Some disabled children also frequently just say "mama" or "daddy" when asked how something happened.You may recall that Marana employees almost did jail time over failure to report. I suspect you are exaggerating about the haircuts, though. #6 - Virginia - I only hope they are in more appropriate and safer homes. Children in the CPS system are always at high risk for physical, emotional and sexual abuse. There are many great foster parents, but are also a lot of untrained, questionable group home staff, and foster parents in it for the stipends. (I once confronted a woman about slapping a 3 year-old across the face in the store. She pointed out that she was the foster parent, and this was the only way she could get the child's attention. I called the police, thinking this was especially inappropriate for a paid caregiver. After interviewing the foster parent, the police told me that the child was in psychiatric care, and very difficult to handle, so the slap was considered justified. What 3 year-old removed from her family wouldn't be a little difficult? In fact, what 3 year-old isn't "difficult" under normal circumstances? Witnessing the whole event, I can tell you that the child could have been easily handled just by being placed in the basket and being spoken to and engaged in shopping, rather than dragged through the store by the arm being yelled at and slapped for looking at things. If this is the public display, what happens at home.) 11. Comment by David R. (Mottmer) — July 15,2007 @ 1:50PM Rating: 5 Thumbs Up I've done this, albeit without so many kids at once. The most I've taken is 2 at a time. It's rewarding in its own right, but sometimes it can be pretty difficult. I can totally understand the stress involved, and sometimes you really need a break for your sanity's sake. I also wonder about how anyone could take in that many at once. As I read the story (which probably leaves much out), I think they have taken care of these kids with very noble intentions, and the kids would have otherwise lived in various institutions or group homes where (regardless of the efforts of staff, many of whom can be great people) they would be more likely to slip through the cracks and never know family life. On the other hand, maybe some of the agencies involved could provide more assistance, even if in small ways, that would make a large difference in the stress level. About schools, I've had some bad experiences dealing with some (but good ones with others; I need to give credit where it's due). Some teachers and administrators are totally understanding, but some can be very fast to blame you for problems that existed in someone prior to placement in your home; they seem to think that you should be able to quash it all in a few days, and take you to task for not using methods that are specifically forbidden by law, or by terms of whatever contract or service plans you're operating under. They can get incredibly vindictive when you disagree with them for... well, for just about anything. I haven't dealt with Marana schools, and maybe they really did see something that needed reporting, but I've learned that sometimes you need to take some reports with several large rocks of salt. 12. Comment by Bobo A. (#4323) — July 15,2007 @ 2:36PM Rating: 4 Thumbs Up 1. 11- I agree about some reports being quite erroneous. Unfortunately, the law is stacked against teachers who fail to report any "suspicion". After the Marana prosecutions, and subsequent barage of professional development, many are running scared. They are specifically prohibited from asking the child questions, or trying to confirm/disconfirm the abuse. That is totally the role of CPS, police, jury, etc. Of course, becoming vindictive or refusing to work as partners with parents is totally unacceptable. Many professionals think the whole reporting laws work against those they are designed to protect. For example, most kids know about mandatory reporting (and sentencing), and often will fail to talk to anyone just because they know it will be reported. If an 17 year-old tells a school counselor that he/she was molested 10 years ago by an uncle, the child will be dragged through the entire reporting and police procedures. An 18year-old who reports the same thing, has a choice. Even professional therapists are not allowed to determine if reporting is in the best interest of the child, or spend time encouraging them to report. The report must be made within 24 hours. At that point, it is out of their hands. Why should any child feel the need to remain silent for so long, just to protect a perpetrator (and in their minds, the family). Most children involved in the entire process will tell you that they would never report again. 13. Comment by Clouds 4. (customcloud) — July 15,2007 @ 3:32PM Rating: 2 Thumbs Up 12 Bobo, your comment reminded me of an article I read that I was able to find online. The similiarities are chilling, to say the least. Social Science: America's Implanted Leadership by Nancy Levant, June 5, 2007 They are paid to profile and report. These “human service agents” are crawling all over your public schools systems – in EVERY public school - your daycare centers, your healthcare clinics and organizations, EVERY social/human service organization, and even your public libraries, who are now quietly pushing Teen Screen in their after-school “care” programs for teens. More on link. http://www.newswithviews.com/Levant/nancy91.htm 14. Comment by Carol R. (azcruby) — July 15,2007 @ 3:42PM Rating: 2 Thumbs Up Clearly, the system is broken and the children are the losers. A travesty and a tragedy. 15. Comment by R T. (#4829) — July 15,2007 @ 4:00PM Rating: 0 Thumbs Up #10 bobo, we work with the school on a level no other families do. we talk to the principal or his assistant and teachers everyday. we have a school district aid come to the house 2-3 times a week. we have a DDD case worker, therapist's and the like come in. i should install a revolving door thats how many are here in a week. why doesn't DDD or anyone else call? i will tell you why, cuz the school has nothing else better to do than to treat all kids exactly the same when clearly they are not CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM.... CPS Does not protect children... It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even killed at the hands of Child Protective Services. every parent should read this .pdf from connecticut dcf watch... http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US These numbers come from The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN) Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS *Perpetrators of Maltreatment* Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59 Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13 Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241 Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12 Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5 Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per 100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a bunch of social workers. BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION... |
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