The right to abandon your child (aka - Roe v. Wade for Men)

"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message news:...

"Gini" wrote in message
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote

"Gini" wrote

"Ken Chaddock" wrote
In most jurisdictions in the US, an unmarried mother can put her
child
up
for adoption without the consent of the father and, if the father
wants
to
retain custody of the child, he must assume all legal and financial
responsibility by "adopting" his own child, thereby absolving the
mother
of all legal and financial responsibility,
===
Where on earth did you get this?? In what jurisdictions must the
father
adopt his own child? In what jurisdictions
can the child be put up for adoption without the father's consent
(save
abandonment, which has strict criteria)?
===

I too would challenge the statement fathers are forced to adopt their
own
children. But in many jurisdictions, including where I live, adoption
law
practice plays it fast and loose with father's rights before adoption.

One of the many games is to place "public notice ads" in a newspaper
where
the father never lived giving him notice unless he comes forward his
child
will be adopted out. The legal logic is there is a presumption he
might
have lived there. When the father fails to respond the adoption moves
forward without his knowledge.
==
Not so in PA, FL and WVA (where we adopted). It can take *years* to
revoke
a
parent's
parental rights and he can come back years later and contest the
adoption
and win if he didn't
know about it. My sister had her foster children ( 2 siblings) from
toddlers
and *finally* was granted adoption
when they were teens. They waited all those years for the father to show
up.
They even waited
years after the mother died of a drug overdose and her mother died
before
they granted the adoption.
==

Oregon is one of the jurisdictions where a single mother can "shop" the
legal system to get the desired result. California mothers place public
notice ads in southern Oregon newspapers. When the presumptive father
doesn't respond they "sell" the baby to the private adoption parents.


BTW - Mothers in the northern part of Oregon around Portland can do the same
thing by claiming they think a child's father lives in the southern part of
the state. It is total BS but the legal system likes the deception as a way
of getting fathers out of the equation regarding how adoptions are handled
without their knowledge.

"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message news:...

"Gini" wrote in message
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote

"Gini" wrote

"Ken Chaddock" wrote
In most jurisdictions in the US, an unmarried mother can put her
child
up
for adoption without the consent of the father and, if the father
wants
to
retain custody of the child, he must assume all legal and
financial
responsibility by "adopting" his own child, thereby absolving the
mother
of all legal and financial responsibility,
===
Where on earth did you get this?? In what jurisdictions must the
father
adopt his own child? In what jurisdictions
can the child be put up for adoption without the father's consent
(save
abandonment, which has strict criteria)?
===

I too would challenge the statement fathers are forced to adopt their
own
children. But in many jurisdictions, including where I live,
adoption
law
practice plays it fast and loose with father's rights before
adoption.

One of the many games is to place "public notice ads" in a newspaper
where
the father never lived giving him notice unless he comes forward his
child
will be adopted out. The legal logic is there is a presumption he
might
have lived there. When the father fails to respond the adoption
moves
forward without his knowledge.
==
Not so in PA, FL and WVA (where we adopted). It can take *years* to
revoke
a
parent's
parental rights and he can come back years later and contest the
adoption
and win if he didn't
know about it. My sister had her foster children ( 2 siblings) from
toddlers
and *finally* was granted adoption
when they were teens. They waited all those years for the father to
show
up.
They even waited
years after the mother died of a drug overdose and her mother died
before
they granted the adoption.
==

Oregon is one of the jurisdictions where a single mother can "shop" the
legal system to get the desired result. California mothers place public
notice ads in southern Oregon newspapers. When the presumptive father
doesn't respond they "sell" the baby to the private adoption parents.


BTW - Mothers in the northern part of Oregon around Portland can do the
same
thing by claiming they think a child's father lives in the southern part
of
the state. It is total BS but the legal system likes the deception as a
way
of getting fathers out of the equation regarding how adoptions are handled
without their knowledge.

That's just sick. Those responsible should be flogged, publicly!