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Old November 3rd 03, 05:05 AM
Paula
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Default Why are new cars missing car seat LATCH for rear middle seat????

Hi - just wondering if anyone out there has a vehicle with the car
seat LATCH in the middle seat? Seems like a lot of the auto
manufacturers included a tether hook for the middle seat, but only put
the LATCH anchors on the side seats.

I think this is ridiculous!!!! Isn't it common knowledge that most
parents seat their children in the middle seat because it's the safest
position in the vehicle? What is the point of installing the LATCH
anchors for two of three possible seats? I just don't understand it.

I have been looking at SUVs and the only one I've seen that has a
middle seat LATCH anchor is the Saturn VUE. Does anyone else know if
other car manufacterers are including a middle seat LATCH anchor, or
is this the only one? This is really stupid, because I've heard
stories of some people incorrectly using the side anchors to secure a
child seat in the middle seat position!

I've heard that some dealers may install a LATCH anchor for you if you
ask (perhaps at a charge). Is this true? I know they will install
tether hooks, but I've never heard of a LATCH achor. Can someone
confirm that they have successfully done this and how much it was?

Thanks!
Paula
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Old November 3rd 03, 05:23 AM
Daniel J Stern
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Default Why are new cars missing car seat LATCH for rear middle seat????

On 2 Nov 2003, Paula wrote:

I have been looking at SUVs and the only one I've seen that has a
middle seat LATCH anchor is the Saturn VUE. Does anyone else know if
other car manufacterers are including a middle seat LATCH anchor, or
is this the only one? This is really stupid


She's looking at SUVs instead of safer passenger cars, and bitching about
two child seat anchorages instead of three.

Sad. Not amazing or surprising, but sad. You have to have a licence to go
down to the lake and fish, but they'll let anyone who can figure out how
to fit tab "A" into slot "B" be a parent.

DS

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Old November 3rd 03, 06:51 AM
Cory Dunkle
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Default Why are new cars missing car seat LATCH for rear middle seat????

"Paula" wrote in message
om...
Hi - just wondering if anyone out there has a vehicle with the car
seat LATCH in the middle seat? Seems like a lot of the auto
manufacturers included a tether hook for the middle seat, but only put
the LATCH anchors on the side seats.

I think this is ridiculous!!!! Isn't it common knowledge that most
parents seat their children in the middle seat because it's the safest
position in the vehicle? What is the point of installing the LATCH
anchors for two of three possible seats? I just don't understand it.

I have been looking at SUVs and the only one I've seen that has a
middle seat LATCH anchor is the Saturn VUE. Does anyone else know if
other car manufacterers are including a middle seat LATCH anchor, or
is this the only one? This is really stupid, because I've heard
stories of some people incorrectly using the side anchors to secure a
child seat in the middle seat position!

I've heard that some dealers may install a LATCH anchor for you if you
ask (perhaps at a charge). Is this true? I know they will install
tether hooks, but I've never heard of a LATCH achor. Can someone
confirm that they have successfully done this and how much it was?


Uhh... Last time I checked all seatbelt latches in cars and trucks were
either firmly anchored to the frame or attached to the body with bolts and
sufficiently large washers. Seatbelts for all passengers have been standard
since '68 on all autos IIRC.

Anyway, as otehrs have said, if you are looking for the safest possible
vehicle for your child you should be looking at full-size cars. They are
very safe in accidents, and also give you a much better ability to avoid an
accident than a truck.

Cory


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Old November 3rd 03, 10:15 AM
Nate Nagel
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Default Why are new cars missing car seat LATCH for rear middle seat????

Daniel J Stern wrote:

On 2 Nov 2003, Paula wrote:


I have been looking at SUVs and the only one I've seen that has a
middle seat LATCH anchor is the Saturn VUE. Does anyone else know if
other car manufacterers are including a middle seat LATCH anchor, or
is this the only one? This is really stupid



She's looking at SUVs instead of safer passenger cars, and bitching about
two child seat anchorages instead of three.

Sad. Not amazing or surprising, but sad. You have to have a licence to go
down to the lake and fish, but they'll let anyone who can figure out how
to fit tab "A" into slot "B" be a parent.

DS


What's even more sad is that she's posting from a .ca address. Is there
some kind of Canadian equivalent of CAFE that has killed off all the
decent cars there too? Or has the SUV craze just spread that far that
fast? (not that the VUE would last 5 minutes off road, anyway... at
least not if I were driving it...)

nate

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Old November 3rd 03, 03:30 PM
Brandon Sommerville
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Default Why are new cars missing car seat LATCH for rear middle seat????

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 04:15:05 -0500, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Daniel J Stern wrote:

On 2 Nov 2003, Paula wrote:


I have been looking at SUVs and the only one I've seen that has a
middle seat LATCH anchor is the Saturn VUE. Does anyone else know if
other car manufacterers are including a middle seat LATCH anchor, or
is this the only one? This is really stupid



She's looking at SUVs instead of safer passenger cars, and bitching about
two child seat anchorages instead of three.

Sad. Not amazing or surprising, but sad. You have to have a licence to go
down to the lake and fish, but they'll let anyone who can figure out how
to fit tab "A" into slot "B" be a parent.

DS


What's even more sad is that she's posting from a .ca address. Is there
some kind of Canadian equivalent of CAFE that has killed off all the
decent cars there too? Or has the SUV craze just spread that far that
fast? (not that the VUE would last 5 minutes off road, anyway... at
least not if I were driving it...)


Canada doesn't have enough of an automotive market to get
significantly different vehicles than you do down south. However,
smaller cars are more popular up here than there. Our top ten list is
as follows:

Dodge Caravan/Grand Caravan
GMC Sierra/Chevrolet Silverado pickup
Ford F-Series pickup
Honda Civic
GM's front-wheel-drive minivans
Chevrolet Cavalier
Toyota Corolla
Ford Windstar
Ford Focus
Pontiac Sunfire

Fortunately no SUVs there, but that will probably change in a few
years...
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Old November 3rd 03, 03:46 PM
Angi
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Default Why are new cars missing car seat LATCH for rear middle seat????

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 04:15:05 -0500, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Daniel J Stern wrote:

On 2 Nov 2003, Paula wrote:


I have been looking at SUVs and the only one I've seen that has a
middle seat LATCH anchor is the Saturn VUE. Does anyone else know if
other car manufacterers are including a middle seat LATCH anchor, or
is this the only one? This is really stupid



She's looking at SUVs instead of safer passenger cars, and bitching about
two child seat anchorages instead of three.

Sad. Not amazing or surprising, but sad. You have to have a licence to go
down to the lake and fish, but they'll let anyone who can figure out how
to fit tab "A" into slot "B" be a parent.

DS


What's even more sad is that she's posting from a .ca address. Is there
some kind of Canadian equivalent of CAFE that has killed off all the
decent cars there too? Or has the SUV craze just spread that far that
fast? (not that the VUE would last 5 minutes off road, anyway... at
least not if I were driving it...)

nate



You know, she could just not know. And she isn't going to learn if you
insist on being jerks. We're supposed to be here to support one
another, if that is not the case, maybe I should leave...

Angi
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Old November 3rd 03, 03:55 PM
Daniel J Stern
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Default Why are new cars missing car seat LATCH for rear middle seat????

On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Nate Nagel wrote:

I have been looking at SUVs Does anyone else know if
other car manufacterers are including a middle seat LATCH anchor, or
is this the only one? This is really stupid


She's looking at SUVs instead of safer passenger cars, and bitching about
two child seat anchorages instead of three.
Sad. Not amazing or surprising, but sad. You have to have a licence to go
down to the lake and fish, but they'll let anyone who can figure out how
to fit tab "A" into slot "B" be a parent.


What's even more sad is that she's posting from a .ca address. Is there
some kind of Canadian equivalent of CAFE that has killed off all the
decent cars there too?


For most intents and purposes, the Canadian auto market is the same as the
US auto market. All the regulations are identical or damn close, and in
the absence of specific regulations, Canada tends to just do (or allow)
whatever the US does -- and this is as GM likes it.

DS

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Old November 3rd 03, 08:44 PM
E.R.
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Default Why are new cars missing car seat LATCH for rear middle seat????

And so it panned out that the following script was sculpted by
none other than Daniel J Stern:

For most intents and purposes, the Canadian auto market is the same as the
US auto market. All the regulations are identical or damn close, and in
the absence of specific regulations, Canada tends to just do (or allow)
whatever the US does -- and this is as GM likes it.


The federal government has always been a bunch of gutless pansies,
so it's really little surprise that they feel unable to stand up
to GM, when I think about it a little more carefully.

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Old November 3rd 03, 08:48 PM
E.R.
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Default Why are new cars missing car seat LATCH for rear middle seat????

And so it panned out that the following script was sculpted by
none other than Nate Nagel:

She's looking at SUVs instead of safer passenger cars, and bitching about
two child seat anchorages instead of three.

[...]


What's even more sad is that she's posting from a .ca address.


I believe shaw.ca (also my ISP) is still staunchly western based,
and there's a fair statistical chance she lives in southern
Alberta - a lot of Yanks, or close descendants thereof, can be
found there (probably a lot of SUVs too - lol). I think many
immigrated here from Montana a couple of generations ago.

Is there some kind of Canadian equivalent of CAFE that has killed off
all the decent cars there too? Or has the SUV craze just spread that far that
fast?


The minivan "craze" is stronger than the SUV craze - Canajuns are
typically quite a pragmatic bunch. :}

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Old November 3rd 03, 08:59 PM
Daye
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Default Why are new cars missing car seat LATCH for rear middle seat????

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 14:46:52 GMT, Angi wrote:

We're supposed to be here to support one
another, if that is not the case, maybe I should leave...


Well, those jerks are posting from rec.autos.driving, not mkp.

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