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Old July 2nd 07, 02:13 PM posted to misc.kids.health
bigvince
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Default The damage mercury does to brain cells

Some think that the mercury in vaccines has contributed to growing
autism rates. An interesting study from the University of Calgary
shows in real time on video exactly how mercury damages brain cells.Of
course the CDC says it was perfectly safe in vaccines; others
disagree. The video links is here http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...226&pr=goog-sl
watch for and decide yourself how safe it really is. Thanks Vince

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Old July 2nd 07, 06:50 PM posted to misc.kids.health
Vaccine-man
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On Jul 2, 7:13 am, bigvince wrote:
Some think that the mercury in vaccines has contributed to growing
autism rates. An interesting study from the University of Calgary
shows in real time on video exactly how mercury damages brain cells.Of
course the CDC says it was perfectly safe in vaccines; others
disagree. The video links is herehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1745672039422612226&pr=goog-sl
watch for and decide yourself how safe it really is. Thanks Vince


Gee, Vince. Did you think to look up what form of mercury they used?
I'll give you a clue: mercury chloride. They did not use thimerosal,
which has a covalent mercury atom that is liberated from thimerosal as
ethylmercury. Its reactivity is substantially less than ionic mecury
atoms found in mercury chloride. You apparently don't understand too
much about chemistry.

Here's their paper and abstract, in case you want to actually read
what they say.

Leong CC, Syed NI, Lorscheider FL.
Faculty of Medicine, Department of Physiology and Biophysics,
University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
Retrograde degeneration of neurite membrane structural integrity of
nerve growth cones following in vitro exposure to mercury.
Neuroreport. 2001 Mar 26;12(4):733-7.

Inhalation of mercury vapor (Hg0) inhibits binding of GTP to rat brain
tubulin, thereby inhibiting tubulin polymerization into microtubules.
A similar molecular lesion has also been observed in 80% of brains
from patients with Alzheimer disease (AD) compared to age-matched
controls. However the precise site and mode of action of Hg ions
remain illusive. Therefore, the present study examined whether Hg ions
could affect membrane dynamics of neurite growth cone morphology and
behavior. Since tubulin is a highly conserved cytoskeletal protein in
both vertebrates and invertebrates, we hypothesized that growth cones
from animal species could be highly susceptible to Hg ions. To test
this possibility, the identified, large Pedal A (PeA) neurons from the
central ring ganglia of the snail Lymnoea stagnalis were cultured for
48 h in 2 ml brain conditioned medium (CM). Following neurite
outgrowth, metal chloride solution (2 microl) of Hg, Al, Pb, Cd, or Mn
(10(-7) M) was pressure applied directly onto individual growth cones.
Time-lapse images with inverted microscopy were acquired prior to,
during, and after the metal ion exposure. We demonstrate that Hg ions
markedly disrupted membrane structure and linear growth rates of
imaged neurites in 77% of all nerve growth cones. When growth cones
were stained with antibodies specific for both tubulin and actin, it
was the tubulin/microtubule structure that disintegrated following Hg
exposure. Moreover, some denuded neurites were also observed to form
neurofibrillary aggregates. In contrast, growth cone exposure to other
metal ions did not effect growth cone morphology, nor was their
motility rate compromised. To determine the growth suppressive effects
of Hg ions on neuronal sprouting, cells were cultured either in the
presence or absence of Hg ions. We found that in the presence of Hg
ions, neuronal somata failed to sprout, whereas other metalic ions did
not effect growth patterns of cultured PeA cells. We conclude that
this visual evidence and previous biochemical data strongly implicate
Hg as a potential etiological factor in neurodegeneration.
PMID: 11277574 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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Old July 2nd 07, 09:35 PM posted to misc.kids.health
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"Vaccine-man" wrote in message oups.com...


Gee, Vince. Did you think to look up what form of mercury they used?
I'll give you a clue: mercury chloride. They did not use thimerosal,
which has a covalent mercury atom that is liberated from thimerosal as
ethylmercury. Its reactivity is substantially less than ionic mecury
atoms found in mercury chloride. You apparently don't understand too
much about chemistry.


You don't have a clue about mercury dangers. No surprise there seeing as you put it into vaccines.

"I think that the biological case against Thimerosal is so dramatically overwhelming anymore that only a very foolish or a very dishonest person with the credentials to
understand this research would say that Thimerosal wasn't most likely the cause of autism."--- Interview of Dr. Boyd E. Haley by Teri Small:

"A single vaccine given to a six-pound newborn is the equivalent of giving a 180-pound adult 30 vaccinations on the same day. Include in this the toxic effects of high levels of aluminium and formaldehyde contained in some vaccines, and the synergist toxicity could be increased to unknown levels. Additionally, mercury is a well-known inhibitor of kidney function."--Boyd Haley Ph.D.

"Maurice R. Hilleman Ph.D., a leading expert on immunization, developed over 40 vaccines and published more than 480 original articles on virology, epidemiology, immunology, and infectious diseases.
Two years ago, a 1991 confidential memo from Dr. Hilleman to the head of Merck's vaccine division was made public.(2) In the memo, Dr. Hilleman wrote "The regulatory control agencies in some countries, particularly Scandinavia (especially Sweden) but also UK, Japan, and Switzerland have expressed concern for thimerosal, a mercury preservative, in vaccines. Some countries require absence of thimerosal from single-dose package. This trend will probably spread. Sweden is requiring thimerosal free single-dose packaging of all products as soon as can be reasonably achieved. The deadline for DT is January, 1992. "The focal point for present concern is in Scandinavia. The immediate Merck concern is to be able to qualify for sale of single-dose products in Sweden and in Norway and Denmark. The public awareness has been raised by the sequential wave of experiences in Sweden including mercury exposure from additives, fish, contaminated air, bird death from eating mercury-treated seed grains, dental amalgam leakage, mercury allergy, etc. In some instances, public immunization programs may be endangered by public refusal to accept vaccines with thimerosal."
Dr. Hilleman went on,
"For babies: The 25 µg of mercury in a single 0.5 ml dose and extrapolated to a 6 lb baby would be 25X the adjusted Swedish daily allowance of 1.0 µg for a baby of that size. If 8 doses of thimerosal-containing vaccine were given in the first 6 months of life (3 DPT, 2 HIB and 3 Hepatitis B) the 200 µg of mercury given, say an average size of 12 lbs would be about 87X the Swedish daily allowance of 2.3 µg of mercury for a baby of that size."
To put all this into perspective: In 1991, we have an international expert (and the # 1 US vaccine expert) on vaccines telling the chief of the vaccine division of the largest US vaccine manufacturer that it is imperative to immediately produce mercury-free vaccines for Scandinavian children in order to avoid exposing them to unacceptable levels of mercury and to guarantee a market share.
All this while the CDC and the FDA were introducing a new mercury-containing vaccine and no one, including members of the medical profession, was uttering not a word and doing absolutely nothing, about the copious amounts of mercury that were being injected in American infants."--The First Cancer Vaccine: Facts and Failings By F. Edward Yazbak, MD, FAAP

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Old July 2nd 07, 10:07 PM posted to misc.kids.health
Vaccine-man
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Default The damage mercury does to brain cells

On Jul 2, 2:35 pm, "JOHN" wrote:

snip john's reply which had nothing to do with the thread

Will you at least admit that mercury chloride and thimerosal are
chemically different molecules? Will you also admit that different
compounds have different toxicities?

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Old July 2nd 07, 10:08 PM posted to misc.kids.health
Peter Bowditch
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"JOHN" wrote:

"I think that the biological case against Thimerosal is so dramatically overwhelming anymore that only a very foolish or a very dishonest person with the credentials to
understand this research would say that Thimerosal wasn't most likely the cause of autism."--- Interview of Dr. Boyd E. Haley by Teri Small:


Has Dr Haley informed Ray Gallup of this? Gallup claims that the only
possible cause of autism is MMR vaccine. Can they both be right? Does
Mr Gallup know that Dr Haley includes him in the set of "very foolish
or ... very dishonest" people?
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Old July 3rd 07, 01:25 AM posted to misc.kids.health
Mark Probert
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Default University of Calgary Study

bigvince wrote:
Some think that the mercury in vaccines has contributed to growing
autism rates. An interesting study from the University of Calgary
shows in real time on video exactly how mercury damages brain cells.Of
course the CDC says it was perfectly safe in vaccines; others
disagree. The video links is here http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...226&pr=goog-sl
watch for and decide yourself how safe it really is. Thanks Vince



I watched the video, but only saw apetri dish. I did not see a brain.

BTW, Brian Heit is on staff at UCalgary...
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Old July 3rd 07, 01:01 PM posted to misc.kids.health
john
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"Vaccine-man" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 2, 2:35 pm, "JOHN" wrote:

snip john's reply which had nothing to do with the thread

Will you at least admit that mercury chloride and thimerosal are
chemically different molecules? Will you also admit that different
compounds have different toxicities?


sure, but it is just a red herring re vaccines, similar to the
autism-is-genetic & autism-increase-is-due-to-better-diagnosis scams


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Old July 3rd 07, 01:43 PM posted to misc.kids.health
Jeff
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JOHN wrote:
"Vaccine-man" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 2, 2:35 pm, "JOHN" wrote:

snip john's reply which had nothing to do with the thread

Will you at least admit that mercury chloride and thimerosal are
chemically different molecules? Will you also admit that different
compounds have different toxicities?


sure, but it is just a red herring re vaccines, similar to the
autism-is-genetic & autism-increase-is-due-to-better-diagnosis scams


Autism has a genetic component that interacts with the environment. But
that does not make it a red herring or a scam.

Ditto the fact that at least some of the increase in autism diagnosis is
better diagnosis and better understanding of autism.

Jeff
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Old July 3rd 07, 03:05 PM posted to misc.kids.health
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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Autism has a genetic component that interacts with the environment. But
that does not make it a red herring or a scam.

Ditto the fact that at least some of the increase in autism diagnosis is
better diagnosis and better understanding of autism.

Jeff


minimal amount and more likely the genetic component is more sensitivity to
mercury

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/autism_genetics.html
http://www.whale.to/a/autism_diagnosis.html


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Old July 3rd 07, 03:26 PM posted to misc.kids.health
Jeff
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JOHN wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
news:Vvrii.8213$DM4.476@trndny06...

Autism has a genetic component that interacts with the environment. But
that does not make it a red herring or a scam.

Ditto the fact that at least some of the increase in autism diagnosis is
better diagnosis and better understanding of autism.

Jeff


minimal amount and more likely the genetic component is more sensitivity to
mercury


Bull.

There is a large genetic component. And it is far more than sensitivity
to mercury.

When you get a clue, please let us know.

Until then, I am not going to waste my time responding to you or big
vince in this thread.

Have a lovely day.

Jeff

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/autism_genetics.html
http://www.whale.to/a/autism_diagnosis.html


 




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