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Social Worker Tries to Investigate Children’s English Skills: The social worker insisted she had a legal obligation to enter the house and interview the children.



 
 
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Old June 11th 07, 09:23 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
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Default Social Worker Tries to Investigate Children’s English Skills: The social worker insisted she had a legal obligation to enter the house and interview the children.

Social Worker Tries to Investigate Children’s English Skills

http://www.hslda.org/hs/state/tx/200706111.asp

The Orelchikov family received an unannounced visit from child
protective services recently due to an anonymous allegation that the
family’s children were adopted and could only speak Russian. The social
worker insisted she had a legal obligation to enter the house and
interview the children.

The Orelchikovs, being Home School Legal Defense Association members,
phoned our hotline for help.

HSLDA Attorney Chris Klicka called the social worker and explained that
although Mr. Orelchikov was from Russia originally, he has been a U.S.
citizen for seven years, and his children are Americans who speak
English very well. He told the social worker that it was clear that the
tipster was just being malicious because the allegations were completely
bogus.

After explaining the family’s innocence, Klicka also explained to the
social worker the family’s Fourth Amendment rights and discussed with
the social worker the Texas Code which requires “cause shown” in order
to enter a family’s house and interview their children. He made it clear
the Orelchikov family would not allow their children to be interviewed.

Klicka directed the family in providing the social worker with 12
reference letters from individuals who know them well and could vouch
for them being good parents. Furthermore, Klicka instructed the
Orelchikovs to take their children to a doctor to prove that they are
not being abused in any way.

After sending the letters and medical records to the social worker,
Klicka followed up with a letter of his own, reiterating the family’s
innocence and the absurdity of the allegations. He also assured the
social worker that the family was homeschooling pursuant to the law.

Due to all the information sent to CPS proving the family’s innocence,
the social worker had no reason to press any further for an
investigation of the home or private interviews with the children. The
social worker informed the family that she had closed the case.










CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL
SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....

CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.

every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com

Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS

*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*

Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5

Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that
are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per
100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse
and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the
citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold
parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY
government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and
death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more
human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which
they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that
they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when
children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a
bunch of social workers.

BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY
ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...

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Old June 12th 07, 02:36 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
Dragon's Girl
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Default Social Worker Tries to Investigate Children's English Skills: The social worker insisted she had a legal obligation to enter the house and interview the children.

On Jun 11, 3:23 pm, fx wrote:
Social Worker Tries to Investigate Children's English Skills

http://www.hslda.org/hs/state/tx/200706111.asp

The Orelchikov family received an unannounced visit from child
protective services recently due to an anonymous allegation that the
family's children were adopted and could only speak Russian. The social
worker insisted she had a legal obligation to enter the house and
interview the children.

The Orelchikovs, being Home School Legal Defense Association members,
phoned our hotline for help.

HSLDA Attorney Chris Klicka called the social worker and explained that
although Mr. Orelchikov was from Russia originally, he has been a U.S.
citizen for seven years, and his children are Americans who speak
English very well. He told the social worker that it was clear that the
tipster was just being malicious because the allegations were completely
bogus.

After explaining the family's innocence, Klicka also explained to the
social worker the family's Fourth Amendment rights and discussed with
the social worker the Texas Code which requires "cause shown" in order
to enter a family's house and interview their children. He made it clear
the Orelchikov family would not allow their children to be interviewed.

Klicka directed the family in providing the social worker with 12
reference letters from individuals who know them well and could vouch
for them being good parents. Furthermore, Klicka instructed the
Orelchikovs to take their children to a doctor to prove that they are
not being abused in any way.

After sending the letters and medical records to the social worker,
Klicka followed up with a letter of his own, reiterating the family's
innocence and the absurdity of the allegations. He also assured the
social worker that the family was homeschooling pursuant to the law.

Due to all the information sent to CPS proving the family's innocence,
the social worker had no reason to press any further for an
investigation of the home or private interviews with the children. The
social worker informed the family that she had closed the case.

CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL
SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....

CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.

every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com

Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS

*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*

Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5

Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that
are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per
100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse
and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the
citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold
parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY
government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and
death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more
human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which
they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that
they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when
children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a
bunch of social workers.

BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY
ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...


That was a reasonable and responsible way to handle this case.
I wonder what made anyone think that speaking only Russian was a
crime, or what made hotline staff even let this through for
investigation.
It's absurd to think that it's some form of mistreatment, abuse, or
neglect to raise a child speaking anything other than English.
Thankfully the family had an attorney that they were able to confide
in and get results from.

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Old June 12th 07, 10:28 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
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Default Social Worker Tries to Investigate Children's English Skills: The social worker insisted she had a legal obligation to enter the house and interview the children.

Agency hotline people don't know what to screen out?

Would a whore turn away money?

Did they claim this one for Federal FUNDING purposes?

How many case numbers did they assign for this investigation?

The caseworker thought she had a legal obligation eh?

Clearly she needs to get retrained about how to
honor citizens Constitutional Rights at first contact.

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Old June 12th 07, 07:55 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
Dragon's Girl
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Default Social Worker Tries to Investigate Children's English Skills: The social worker insisted she had a legal obligation to enter the house and interview the children.

On Jun 12, 2:28 am, Greegor wrote:
Agency hotline people don't know what to screen out?

Would a whore turn away money?


Don't know. Would you?



Did they claim this one for Federal FUNDING purposes?

How many case numbers did they assign for this investigation?

The caseworker thought she had a legal obligation eh?

Clearly she needs to get retrained about how to
honor citizens Constitutional Rights at first contact.



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Old June 12th 07, 08:57 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
Greegor
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Default Social Worker Tries to Investigate Children's English Skills: The social worker insisted she had a legal obligation to enter the house and interview the children.

On Jun 12, 1:55 pm, Dragon's Girl wrote:
On Jun 12, 2:28 am, Greegor wrote:

Agency hotline people don't know what to screen out?


Would a whore turn away money?


Don't know. Would you?


How would you explain the fact this was not screened out Betty?

Do you think FUNDING has nothing to do with it?

How do you explain that caseworker thinking she had
an obligation to intrude?

How could that be if they are TRAINED to know better?

It's a FEDERAL requirement.

How do you think this would have gone
if this family hadn't had some vigorous legal representation?

Did they claim this one for Federal FUNDING purposes?


Can they, Kane?

How many case numbers did they assign for this investigation?


How much funding increase do they get for the
case number they assigned to each person in the family?

The caseworker thought she had a legal obligation eh?


Clearly she needs to get retrained about how to
honor citizens Constitutional Rights at first contact.


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Old June 12th 07, 09:24 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
firemonkey
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Default Social Worker Tries to Investigate Children's English Skills: The social worker insisted she had a legal obligation to enter the house and interview the children.

Hopefully they got enough funding to save some more little girls like
your girlfriends daughter, who were being subjected to the behavior
YOU were demonstrating greg.
I have often wondered if your hatred of CPS is your way of NOT dealing
with your own behavior towards that little girl.
And if your absurd advice to other parents struggling with these
issues is merely "misery loves company" that makes sense, as well as
you attacking any parent that had dealings with cps and came out of it
with their children.
Your sense of entittllement floors me. Your arrogance sickens me.
Firemonkey




On Jun 12, 12:57 pm, Greegor wrote:
On Jun 12, 1:55 pm, Dragon's Girl wrote:

On Jun 12, 2:28 am, Greegor wrote:


Agency hotline people don't know what to screen out?


Would a whore turn away money?


Don't know. Would you?


How would you explain the fact this was not screened out Betty?

Do you think FUNDING has nothing to do with it?

How do you explain that caseworker thinking she had
an obligation to intrude?

How could that be if they are TRAINED to know better?

It's a FEDERAL requirement.

How do you think this would have gone
if this family hadn't had some vigorous legal representation?

Did they claim this one for Federal FUNDING purposes?


Can they, Kane?

How many case numbers did they assign for this investigation?


How much funding increase do they get for the
case number they assigned to each person in the family?



The caseworker thought she had a legal obligation eh?


Clearly she needs to get retrained about how to
honor citizens Constitutional Rights at first contact.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -



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Old June 13th 07, 10:14 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
Dragon's Girl
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Default Social Worker Tries to Investigate Children's English Skills: The social worker insisted she had a legal obligation to enter the house and interview the children.

On Jun 12, 2:57 pm, Greegor wrote:
On Jun 12, 1:55 pm, Dragon's Girl wrote:

On Jun 12, 2:28 am, Greegor wrote:


Agency hotline people don't know what to screen out?


Would a whore turn away money?


Don't know. Would you?


How would you explain the fact this was not screened out Betty?


How would I explain it? I wouldn't know.
There's no way in hell I'd defend it, or didn't you see my first post
in this thread where I say it's absurd?
Now you ask me to EXPLAIN IT?

Get your head out your ass Greg.



Do you think FUNDING has nothing to do with it?

How do you explain that caseworker thinking she had
an obligation to intrude?

How could that be if they are TRAINED to know better?

It's a FEDERAL requirement.

How do you think this would have gone
if this family hadn't had some vigorous legal representation?

Did they claim this one for Federal FUNDING purposes?


Can they, Kane?

How many case numbers did they assign for this investigation?


How much funding increase do they get for the
case number they assigned to each person in the family?

The caseworker thought she had a legal obligation eh?


Clearly she needs to get retrained about how to
honor citizens Constitutional Rights at first contact.



 




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