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Private Detective...anyone ever use one?
We are thinking of using a private detective before we go back to court next
year to emancipate my husbands daughter. Husbands ex wife has always claimed she doesn't feel she should have to work since she stays home with her 5 kids (3 are his) she is remarried. We have found out recently from co-worker that the ex went to work right after the last court hearing for a major department store. Her new hubby made her quit because all she did was buy herself designer clothes...who knew the slut would be selfish too! She then went to work at another job and as far as we know she is still working. What I'd like to do is have all this info and much more ready when we file our court papers next spring as I'm sure she will be conventiently unemployed when it comes time to go to court. Has anyone ever used a P.I. for this type of thing and did it help? I'm hoping any info we gather will demonstrate to the judge that she is capable of working and chooses not to when it suits her needs. Also hoping to find out exactly how financially set she is. Don't get me wrong...I hope she is rich so we can show the courts that her share of the "shared income" figures should be increased. Let the countdown begin.....next year we get rid of one and the following year we finally emancipate the last one!!!!! YIPEEEEEEEE!!!!!! |
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Private Detective...anyone ever use one?
I hired a PI, and it paid off. I can't say it was the PI alone, but the way
I worked the situation in combination with having one. If you can afford one, it helps, but they are expensive. I got mine for $58 an hr, but most are closer to $100 an hr and they charge for milage when they have to tail the target. It's not a cheap way to go, so I would weigh the cost of the PI vs. taking the loss on the ex's lies about income. Also, the PI will charge to show up to court, but I found a loophole. Have them write their report which you will have to disclose in order to get it into evidence. To authenticate it, the PI will need to be there, and that's where they get you. If you supeona them, they have to show up. Tell them you are done with their services and no longer will pay for future services, then supeona them to court, cause thay have to go. Odds are, you won't need them there, because the disclosure of the report would be enough to force the ex into telling the truth on the stand. In you situation, don't bother unless you are loaded. Simply request her paystubs as part of the Discovery process. If she lies or does not disclose, you can catch her at a later date when you file a modification of child support. -Drew "Gypsy0005" wrote in message ... We are thinking of using a private detective before we go back to court next year to emancipate my husbands daughter. Husbands ex wife has always claimed she doesn't feel she should have to work since she stays home with her 5 kids (3 are his) she is remarried. We have found out recently from co-worker that the ex went to work right after the last court hearing for a major department store. Her new hubby made her quit because all she did was buy herself designer clothes...who knew the slut would be selfish too! She then went to work at another job and as far as we know she is still working. What I'd like to do is have all this info and much more ready when we file our court papers next spring as I'm sure she will be conventiently unemployed when it comes time to go to court. Has anyone ever used a P.I. for this type of thing and did it help? I'm hoping any info we gather will demonstrate to the judge that she is capable of working and chooses not to when it suits her needs. Also hoping to find out exactly how financially set she is. Don't get me wrong...I hope she is rich so we can show the courts that her share of the "shared income" figures should be increased. Let the countdown begin.....next year we get rid of one and the following year we finally emancipate the last one!!!!! YIPEEEEEEEE!!!!!! |
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Private Detective...anyone ever use one?
"Freedom" wrote in message ... them write their report which you will have to disclose in order to get it into evidence. To authenticate it, the PI will need to be there, and that's How and when do you "disclose" it? Supposed to disclose any and all evidence obtained through Discovery or non-public information at least ten days before trial. Sneaky lawyers have been known to disclose 1 day before court so the other party has little time to examine it. To disclose, you simply give the other party a copy of the evidence. In court, you can always bring along evidence, and if you don't disclose it, you can still use as an exhibit, but it won't hold water because it wasn't disclosed to the other party prior to trial, and you won't get it into evidence (difference between an exhibit and evidence). The whole idea of disclosure is so you can't ambush the other party by getting them in a lie and springing last minute evidence on them. It kinda sucks, but really makes sense too, because if the evidence is fabricated, one would have no way to dispute it on the spot. In the end, it really forces the other party to tell the truth on the stand when they know you have evidence that you may or may not admit later. where they get you. If you supeona them, they have to show up. Tell them you are done with their services and no longer will pay for future services, then supeona them to court, cause thay have to go. Odds are, you won't need them there, because the disclosure of the report would be enough to force the ex into telling the truth on the stand. In you situation, don't bother unless you are loaded. paystubs as part of the Discovery process. Discovery can occur for any support hearing? Good question. I would say only to the point of what is relevant to the case, meaning getting copies of mental records would not be relevant. I did mione all at once, custody and everything, so all the docs were fair game. I'll have to look into that through. If she lies or does not disclose, you can catch her at a later date when you file a modification of child support. What do you mean "catch her"? So if during discovery she denies working, in a few short months after a PI finds she is working, you nail her in modification motion. But what good would that do? Couldn't she say "at that time I wasn't working, and now I am". Wouldn't it be better to use Discovery, get the lies, and then have evidence to the contrary immediately? Certainly better to catch her on the sopt if you can, because it's always easier to prevent actions before they start as opposed to fighting to fix them later. My point is that it can be done after the fact as well, so all is not lost. In addition, the hard evidence of her employment vs her lies discredits her in the future. I think we all know that a biased judge will not charge her with purgery, but it will discredit her to a point. -Drew "Gypsy0005" wrote in message ... We are thinking of using a private detective before we go back to court next year to emancipate my husbands daughter. Husbands ex wife has always claimed she doesn't feel she should have to work since she stays home with her 5 kids (3 are his) she is remarried. We have found out recently from co-worker that the ex went to work right after the last court hearing for a major department store. Her new hubby made her quit because all she did was buy herself designer clothes...who knew the slut would be selfish too! She then went to work at another job and as far as we know she is still working. What I'd like to do is have all this info and much more ready when we file our court papers next spring as I'm sure she will be conventiently unemployed when it comes time to go to court. Has anyone ever used a P.I. for this type of thing and did it help? I'm hoping any info we gather will demonstrate to the judge that she is capable of working and chooses not to when it suits her needs. Also hoping to find out exactly how financially set she is. Don't get me wrong...I hope she is rich so we can show the courts that her share of the "shared income" figures should be increased. Let the countdown begin.....next year we get rid of one and the following year we finally emancipate the last one!!!!! YIPEEEEEEEE!!!!!! |
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Private Detective...anyone ever use one?
Certainly better to catch her on the sopt if you can, because it's always
easier to prevent actions before they start as opposed to fighting to fix them later. My point is that it can be done after the fact as well, so all is not lost. I think we will go with the P.I. I once had an attorney tell me that it is much easier to get the courts to find in your favor than it is to ever get things undone. Aside from the fact that it will cost more $$ to go back to court and of course you have the months and months of waiting for all of this to come to court. All this time we will be paying support, of course. I want to do everything to make sure that this kid is emancipated the instant she turns 18! Thanks for all the great suggestions! |
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