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Scots call for electronic monitoring of 8yo-excess crime
On 16 Jul 2003, Kane wrote: Doan wrote in message ... On 14 Jul 2003, Kane wrote: Doan wrote in message ... Snipping the pottage.............. Simple! Because spanking is almost universal! It is hard to find a senator or a congressman that hasn't been spanked! Can you name a non-spanked Nobel Laureate? ;-) Doan Sure. I don't think Elie Wiesel was. Don't know if these following guys were unspanked or not, but they sure as are against it, and a few of them laureates: In short, you don't know jack! Ah, but I do know Doan...r r r r LOL! That is what you think! Being against spanking is not the same as being unspanked. Just ask Chris and LaVonne, they are against but were beaten as children! As I mentioned in the previous reply to your question, it was a stupid question. People that are spanked often report it, either out of the negative trauma it created, or out of defense of their abusers from trauma bonding effects. Load of craps! :-) People who haven't been spanked don't even think to mention it. I've read many a biography that had no mention of it at all, while in others it was a central theme in some sections of their writing, and it had the one of the two characteristics I mentioned above. More load of craps! ;-) James Prescott, Ph.D., wrote the "Ashley Montagu Resolution" in 1994. Dr. Francis Crick, Nobel Laureate in Medicine (1962) and discoverer of the structure of the DNA molecule, endorsed the Montagu Resolution in 1995, along with Dr. Jonas Salk and many others. Irrelevant! No, Doan. YOU are irrelevant and I enjoy engaging you so people can see just how irrelevant you are. LOL! Dr. George Wald, Nobel Laureate in Medicine (1967) and discoverer of vitamin A in the retina of the eye and how it works there with light to form the molecular basis of vision, was also a strong defender of the human right to bodily integrity. Irrelevant! No, Doan, the point is you don't know if they were spanked or not. Actually I do. Simple probability! I've been waiting patiently for this. Please provide us with the names of Nobel Laureates that have been spanked, and prove it. I don't have to since I am not stupid enough to say spanking/no-spanking has anything to do with being a Nobel Laureates! Got it? ;-) You might look up the Ashley Montagu Resolution. It'll make you cry. If you can......... Passed right by it, eh? Now that is a case for your irrelevance if ever I've seen it. I love it when you set here claiming someone like LaVonne hasn't answered your challenge because of some inability to do so. She may be gone, she may think you are too funny for words, or she may think you are irrelevant and crasy as a loon...who knows, but your assumptions are comic. Why don't you asked her? ;-) You think your a smart ass with your questions that can't be answered don't you? Of course! And you still can't answer it! ;-) And that is relevant how, given the question has no value since it asks nothing that can be answered? You figure it out! ;-) Just how many people that haven't been spanked would even bother to mention it? Millions of people haven't been spanked, they just haven't a reason to mention it. And your prove is??? Opps! Walked right into it, didn't you? r r r r r 10 percent of the population, according to YOUR claims, has not been spanked, or has made no claim one way or another. What's 10% of the population of the US please? Could it be in the millions? And how you know they haven't mention it? Did you talk to them? And how did this fit into a study by anti-spanker that show 98% of college freshmen were spanked? Is non-spanker not making it to college? ;-) ON the other hand, those that have been report it a lot. I wonder why that is? Could be we tend to talk about the negative more than the positive. Then why did you claimed to be "never-spanked"??? ;-) I said that, did I? Can you provide a cite? Someone must be posting under my handle and addy. I've never discussed it one way or another. So by your claim above, you were never-spanked? ;-) C'mon, Kane9! You are flip-flopping! Can't even keep your story straight? Sounded like "La Moron"!!! ;-) I have discussed my two children, who, except for one highly educational swat on the butt to one kid when he was five, were not spanked, and for that matter not punished deliberately. They were taught. Turned out fantastic, if I say so myself. Very successful and independent, law abiding, productive, and jolly good fun to be around. So one kid was spanked and one was not, both turned out successful. Thanks for making my case - spanking/non-spanking has nothing to do with it! By the way, the educational part that came out of that one swat was not my child's education, but rather, MINE. He obeyed me immediately, when he shouldn't have. He got an immediate apology and a promise, and he never once in his whole childhood or later, ever took advantage of the fact he had my promise he'd never be hit again. Doan Poor little puppy. Sit up and beg for us Doan, there's a good boy. And the little puppy is Kane9! So what is his mom? ;-) Doan |
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Scots call for electronic monitoring of 8yo-excess crime
From: Doan ) Subject: Scots call for electronic
monitoring of 8yo-excess crime View: Complete Thread (12 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: alt.parenting.spanking Date: 2003-07-17 07:02:24 PST On 16 Jul 2003, Kane wrote: Doan wrote in message ... On 14 Jul 2003, Kane wrote: Doan wrote in message ... Snipping the pottage.............. Simple! Because spanking is almost universal! It is hard to find a senator or a congressman that hasn't been spanked! Can you name a non-spanked Nobel Laureate? ;-) Doan Sure. I don't think Elie Wiesel was. Don't know if these following guys were unspanked or not, but they sure as are against it, and a few of them laureates: In short, you don't know jack! Ah, but I do know Doan...r r r r LOL! That is what you think! Yep. That is exactly what I think. I once was paid to know you. rrrrrrr Being against spanking is not the same as being unspanked. Just ask Chris and LaVonne, they are against but were beaten as children! As I mentioned in the previous reply to your question, it was a stupid question. People that are spanked often report it, either out of the negative trauma it created, or out of defense of their abusers from trauma bonding effects. Load of craps! :-) You are free to provide any proof you wish to support your claim of it being a "Load of craps! :-)" We'll wait. And do a lookup on Stockholm Syndrom, and trauma bonding before you make an even larger foolish puppy out of youself. People who haven't been spanked don't even think to mention it. I've read many a biography that had no mention of it at all, while in others it was a central theme in some sections of their writing, and it had the one of the two characteristics I mentioned above. More load of craps! ;-) Obviously you are poorly read, and you have demonstrated repeatedly what you think are your "debates" with Chris, or LaVonne, how well you understand what you read. Care to show us how what I said is "More load of craps! ;-)" James Prescott, Ph.D., wrote the "Ashley Montagu Resolution" in 1994. Dr. Francis Crick, Nobel Laureate in Medicine (1962) and discoverer of the structure of the DNA molecule, endorsed the Montagu Resolution in 1995, along with Dr. Jonas Salk and many others. Irrelevant! No, Doan. YOU are irrelevant and I enjoy engaging you so people can see just how irrelevant you are. LOL! Glad to bring any little ray of sunship into an obviously dark and sordid life. Dr. George Wald, Nobel Laureate in Medicine (1967) and discoverer of vitamin A in the retina of the eye and how it works there with light to form the molecular basis of vision, was also a strong defender of the human right to bodily integrity. Irrelevant! No, Doan, the point is you don't know if they were spanked or not. Actually I do. Simple probability! Actually you don't. Probabality will tell you a trend, not the facts in any single instance...such as a person's life. You don't know if any of these people were spanked or not. Probably will only tell you the probability, not the definative answer one way or another. You going on probability are you? Figgers. In fact, knowing what I know I could make the same silly claim, if I were as stupid as you....I know by actual examples, from people I know personally, (no "probability to it) that are at the top of their profession or art that the great majority were NOT spanked, or in fact came from a punishment oriented family. I also know that there is a very high incident of folks in prison and mental health establishments that report coming from a punative family life. Take it or leave it. I've been waiting patiently for this. Please provide us with the names of Nobel Laureates that have been spanked, and prove it. I don't have to since I am not stupid enough to say spanking/no-spanking has anything to do with being a Nobel Laureates! Got it? ;-) Apparently you are stupid enough to ask someone else to answer the question about Nobel Laureates who weren't spanked as though their failure to do so was some evidence that you are correct. So why did you ask about it if you aren't stupid enough to try and a connection? You might look up the Ashley Montagu Resolution. It'll make you cry. If you can......... Passed right by it, eh? Now that is a case for your irrelevance if ever I've seen it. Still not going to read the Ashley Montagu Resolution, and respond with some of your brilliance, eh? I love it when you set here claiming someone like LaVonne hasn't answered your challenge because of some inability to do so. She may be gone, she may think you are too funny for words, or she may think you are irrelevant and crasy as a loon...who knows, but your assumptions are comic. Why don't you asked her? ;-) I've barely enough time for you. I don't need to question or even discuss issues much with people that already agree with me in principle. She can take care of herself quite nicely. She's made a fool of you...well, you helped a great deal, repeatedly in this ng. You think your a smart ass with your questions that can't be answered don't you? Of course! And you still can't answer it! ;-) And that is relevant how, given the question has no value since it asks nothing that can be answered? You figure it out! ;-) Yep. Sure have. :-] You are a damaged hapless fool that was spanked in childhood damaging your psyche to the point you just have to defend folks right to spank. You couldn't possibly acknowledge what your folks did to you. And certainly not publically. I think folks should keep an eye on you around water towers. You might get a hankerin' to climb. Just how many people that haven't been spanked would even bother to mention it? Millions of people haven't been spanked, they just haven't a reason to mention it. And your prove is??? Opps! Walked right into it, didn't you? r r r r r 10 percent of the population, according to YOUR claims, has not been spanked, or has made no claim one way or another. What's 10% of the population of the US please? Could it be in the millions? And how you know they haven't mention it? I don't know that. How could I. I don't recall claiming they did. In fact I claim it's unlikely, as, not being spanked, to the unspanked, is nothing remarkable. They were far too busy proceeding, without the savage interuption of such treatment, with their lives. Did you talk to them? No. I have no such capacity to talk to 10% (or even 2% you claimed didn't report being spanked) of the US population even if I could locate them. The number came from the remainder in your claim of 90% having been spanked. But 2% of the population is still in the millions, as I claimed. So, what is the relevance of your question, "Did I talk to them"? By the way, if you don't start answering my questions try not to be surprized when I give up even replying to you. It's pointless to have a debate with someone that backs off the questions asked. I make it a practice to answer each of your claims, comments, and questions when it is at all possible to do so. I even answer the impossible by pointing out your total lack of wit. And how did this fit into a study by anti-spanker that show 98% of college freshmen were spanked? Is non-spanker not making it to college? ;-) Oh, now it's 98% of self reporteres. By the way, which study was this, a cite please, with source. We'll see if you lie, as usual. Or you use the old self reporting "study" that of course is slanted. And why would I want to fit anything into a "survey" that was not really a study at all, eh? ON the other hand, those that have been report it a lot. I wonder why that is? Could be we tend to talk about the negative more than the positive. Then why did you claimed to be "never-spanked"??? ;-) I said that, did I? Can you provide a cite? Someone must be posting under my handle and addy. I've never discussed it one way or another. So by your claim above, you were never-spanked? ;-) What in the sentence "I've never discussed it one way or another" indicates to you that I was never-spanked, or spanked? You do have an odd way with the language. Would you prefer to converse in your first language? I don't recall making a claim one way or another. C'mon, Kane9! You are flip-flopping! Come on little silly puppy, you are despritely thrashing about trying to avoid the truth. Can't even keep your story straight? Always have. You are free to point out where I haven't, but you will have to do better than to project your understanding, such as it is, into my language. Sounded like "La Moron"!!! ;-) No one "sounded" like anyone else. This isn't an aural communication. You could say my words looked like someone elses, but not that they sound like. By the way, your little english less for today. "Like" means to like something, not similar to or even "alike" something. It would have been more correct to say, if I understand correctly your impotent attempt to make a funny or rude comment, "Kane, your words are similar to LaVonne's!!!", assuming you were referring to her. Though the redundant "!" is akin to shouting the same thing three times. Pointless, as you are. All you have to do to prove your claim is to post evidence I made such a statement of being never spanked, or spanked. I'm curious where and how I might have done that, having no memory of having done so. You'll probably find, as you so often do, something entirely out of context and claim it was mine. Go ahead. Are you trying to ask me if I was spanked or not? Why the circular ... oh, wait. My apology. I know why you can't ask a direct question. Never mind. I have discussed my two children, who, except for one highly educational swat on the butt to one kid when he was five, were not spanked, and for that matter not punished deliberately. They were taught. Turned out fantastic, if I say so myself. Very successful and independent, law abiding, productive, and jolly good fun to be around. So one kid was spanked and one was not, both turned out successful. Thanks for making my case - spanking/non-spanking has nothing to do with it! You have no "case" except the one you carry your macroencephalic head around in. Apparently you didn't read the following paragraph before you declared yourself the winner. I chose to, had to really for ethical reasons and the good mental health of my child, do some repairs before "both turned out successful," which included a promise of NO SPANK for him for life and my most heartfelt apology. And some time listening supportively to the reason he was being fussy. A reminder to listen to the child and his needs instead of focusing on controlling the child....like you silly assholes do. Are you really going to try and claim that because a child received an uncalled for (at least in my value system) light swat on the butt a "spanked" kid? Now I see what's up. You got spanked way too far up your back. By the way, the educational part that came out of that one swat was not my child's education, but rather, MINE. He obeyed me immediately, when he shouldn't have. He got an immediate apology and a promise, and he never once in his whole childhood or later, ever took advantage of the fact he had my promise he'd never be hit again. Gee, no response? I thought so. Figgers. Doan Poor little puppy. Sit up and beg for us Doan, there's a good boy. And the little puppy is Kane9! So what is his mom? ;-) makuahine How long has english been your second language? Doan... The son of a me thit cho ..... Kane |
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Scots call for electronic monitoring of 8yo-excess crime
Doan wrote in message ...
sni..........................................p I'm sorry. I was going to let this go and not comment, but frankly I'm feeling vunerable and weak today. My willpower has failed me....r r r r r r Doan asks the brilliant question in reparte: Simple! Because spanking is almost universal! It is hard to find a senator or a congressman that hasn't been spanked! These are your examples of the quality of character, intelligence, and honesty in favor of spanking? Oh puuuuuleeeeeezzzzzzzzzzz.... Can you name a non-spanked Nobel Laureate? ;-) Can you name a spanked one? I asked before and I notice you haven't answered. Don't you have a thing about people not answering your questions? r r r r r, as if they haven't been answered time and time again with you refusing to even see the words in front of you. Could it be you are hysterically blind? wait, don't answer that question. How could I be so silly as to ask a blind man to answer a written question. I guess I can assume that when YOU don't answer....r r r ... rrrr hehehe... Doan ... .... his mother's pup. Kane sni...........p |
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