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Spanking Leads To Child Aggression And Anxiety, Regardless OfCultural Norm
Just as I expected, LaVonne is the one that is doing the avoidance while letting her little chihuahua, aka Kane9, doing the verbal abuse for her. What a laugh! Doan On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Doan wrote: First, the study is a correlation study. No CAUSATION can be implied. Thus, the claim that spanking "Leads" to child aggression and anxiety is bogus! Second, the authors themselves admitted that they included beatings that are certainly abusive in the USA in study. If you really want to debate this study, I am willing to give it a shot - no verbal abuse warranted. ;-) Wanna give me a try? My guess is you will be the one that do the avoidance and instead will use your little Kane9 to do the verbal abuse and attack for you. Doan On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Carlson LaVonne wrote: Well, I received a multitude of similar responses when I posted a reference to this study. It's hard to accept defeat or to debate intelligently in light of solid evidence that refutes one's personal beliefs. When that happens, one can engage in avoidance, changing the subject, or verbal abuse. In my over ten years of involvement on this ng, and in working with families, children, and students, I'm familiar with all three strategies. None of the strategies change the evidence research has demonstrated. Hitting children is no more effective than alternative strategies that model, teach, and hold children accountable, and it carries the potential for both short and long term harm. We now have evidence that context and culture does not eliminate the potential for negative outcomes or decrease the effectiveness of alternative discipline strategies. LaVonne 0:- wrote: 0:- wrote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1114110820.htm Source: Society for Research in Child Development ... * More frequent use of physical discipline was less strongly associated with child aggression and anxiety when it was perceived as being more culturally accepted, but physical discipline was also associated with more aggression and anxiety regardless of the perception of cultural acceptance. ... ... * In all countries, however, higher use of physical discipline was associated with more child aggression and anxiety. ... The silence is deafening. Will I simply get another babbling change of subject from Doan? Or will he continue to display his cowardice and shame his good family name? R R R R ....hihihi http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1114110820.htm |
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Spanking Leads To Child Aggression And Anxiety, Regardless Of Cultural Norm
"Doan" wrote in message ... First, the study is a correlation study. No CAUSATION can be implied. Thus, the claim that spanking "Leads" to child aggression and anxiety is bogus! Second, the authors themselves admitted that they included beatings that are certainly abusive in the USA in study. If you really want to debate this study, I am willing to give it a shot - no verbal abuse warranted. ;-) Wanna give me a try? My guess is you will be the one that do the avoidance and instead will use your little Kane9 to do the verbal abuse and attack for you. There is NO scientifically acceptable evidence that spanking causes aggression in Children. There is considerable evidence that a lack of spanking can produce sociopathy in children. |
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Spanking Leads To Child Aggression And Anxiety, Regardless OfCultural Norm
krp wrote:
"Doan" wrote in message ... First, the study is a correlation study. No CAUSATION can be implied. Thus, the claim that spanking "Leads" to child aggression and anxiety is bogus! Second, the authors themselves admitted that they included beatings that are certainly abusive in the USA in study. If you really want to debate this study, I am willing to give it a shot - no verbal abuse warranted. ;-) Wanna give me a try? My guess is you will be the one that do the avoidance and instead will use your little Kane9 to do the verbal abuse and attack for you. There is NO scientifically acceptable evidence that spanking causes aggression in Children. There is considerable evidence that a lack of spanking can produce sociopathy in children. Happy to discuss these claims with you in alt.parenting.spanking. Cross posting to any other newsgroup will give you an easy way out when you are proven wrong and can't support you claim with evidence. We on then? Before you commit, consider this: If you are going to claim, "There is NO scientifically acceptable evidence that spanking causes aggression in Children," then you are going to be asked two questions. One: what do you consider "acceptable?' Two: Produce, based on YOUR definition of "acceptable," acceptable evidence to support your claim, "There is considerable evidence that a lack of spanking can produce sociopathy in children." We might also consider the meaning you place on the term "considerable," as in number, I presume you to mean. I'll be interested in seeing what you come up with based on these simple but vital criteria I've mentioned. I'm very familiar with the literature and research from both sides. If you need my help, just ask. Happy to oblige. Kane |
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Spanking Leads To Child Aggression And Anxiety, Regardless OfCultural Norm
krp wrote:
"Doan" wrote in message ... First, the study is a correlation study. No CAUSATION can be implied. Thus, the claim that spanking "Leads" to child aggression and anxiety is bogus! Second, the authors themselves admitted that they included beatings that are certainly abusive in the USA in study. If you really want to debate this study, I am willing to give it a shot - no verbal abuse warranted. ;-) Wanna give me a try? My guess is you will be the one that do the avoidance and instead will use your little Kane9 to do the verbal abuse and attack for you. Notice how Doan starts with insult but claims "no verbal abuse warranted?" That kind of slimy language of attack is common to him. That's why he is on my do-not-reply list. He's a liar, and unethical. He has shamed his honorable family by his conduct here. There is NO scientifically acceptable evidence that spanking causes aggression in Children. There is considerable evidence that a lack of spanking can produce sociopathy in children. Please pardon me, I completely forgot to clarify this term you brought into the debate: .... so·ci·o·path /?so?si??pæ?, ?so??i-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun Psychiatry. a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.... Do you accept this as a definition of "sociopath," for our purposes of discussion? Thanks, Kane |
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Spanking Leads To Child Aggression And Anxiety, Regardless OfCultural Norm
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, 0:- wrote:
krp wrote: "Doan" wrote in message ... First, the study is a correlation study. No CAUSATION can be implied. Thus, the claim that spanking "Leads" to child aggression and anxiety is bogus! Second, the authors themselves admitted that they included beatings that are certainly abusive in the USA in study. If you really want to debate this study, I am willing to give it a shot - no verbal abuse warranted. ;-) Wanna give me a try? My guess is you will be the one that do the avoidance and instead will use your little Kane9 to do the verbal abuse and attack for you. Notice how Doan starts with insult but claims "no verbal abuse warranted?" That kind of slimy language of attack is common to him. That's why he is on my do-not-reply list. He's a liar, and unethical. He has shamed his honorable family by his conduct here. Hahaha! This is funny. Since when that I am on your "do-not-reply list", Kane? The proven liar here is YOU! Doan |
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Spanking Leads To Child Aggression And Anxiety, Regardless OfCultural Norm
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, krp wrote:
"Doan" wrote in message ... First, the study is a correlation study. No CAUSATION can be implied. Thus, the claim that spanking "Leads" to child aggression and anxiety is bogus! Second, the authors themselves admitted that they included beatings that are certainly abusive in the USA in study. If you really want to debate this study, I am willing to give it a shot - no verbal abuse warranted. ;-) Wanna give me a try? My guess is you will be the one that do the avoidance and instead will use your little Kane9 to do the verbal abuse and attack for you. There is NO scientifically acceptable evidence that spanking causes aggression in Children. There is considerable evidence that a lack of spanking can produce sociopathy in children. Do you know that Kane is a "never-spanked" boy? Doan |
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Spanking Leads To Child Aggression And Anxiety, Regardless Of Cultural Norm
"Doan" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, krp wrote: "Doan" wrote in message ... First, the study is a correlation study. No CAUSATION can be implied. Thus, the claim that spanking "Leads" to child aggression and anxiety is bogus! Second, the authors themselves admitted that they included beatings that are certainly abusive in the USA in study. If you really want to debate this study, I am willing to give it a shot - no verbal abuse warranted. ;-) Wanna give me a try? My guess is you will be the one that do the avoidance and instead will use your little Kane9 to do the verbal abuse and attack for you. There is NO scientifically acceptable evidence that spanking causes aggression in Children. There is considerable evidence that a lack of spanking can produce sociopathy in children. Do you know that Kane is a "never-spanked" boy? Wouldn't surprise me. |
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Spanking Leads To Child Aggression And Anxiety, Regardless OfCultural Norm
krp wrote:
"Doan" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, krp wrote: "Doan" wrote in message ... First, the study is a correlation study. No CAUSATION can be implied. Thus, the claim that spanking "Leads" to child aggression and anxiety is bogus! Second, the authors themselves admitted that they included beatings that are certainly abusive in the USA in study. If you really want to debate this study, I am willing to give it a shot - no verbal abuse warranted. ;-) Wanna give me a try? My guess is you will be the one that do the avoidance and instead will use your little Kane9 to do the verbal abuse and attack for you. There is NO scientifically acceptable evidence that spanking causes aggression in Children. There is considerable evidence that a lack of spanking can produce sociopathy in children. Do you know that Kane is a "never-spanked" boy? Wouldn't surprise me. I asked you to confine debate on this issue to alt.parenting.spanking. Can I take this as your chosen opportunity to run then? My status, or yours, has no bearing on the facts, Ken. You may have been spanked, I may not have been. How would this change our debate if we are going to stick to the facts? You made a claim. I've asked you to support it. I've clarified the conditions that are reasonable for debate....in this case that we confine ourselves to the debating protocols of 'argument.' This means we deal only in facts. And only those relevant to the issue. Now if you aren't going to dodge again, how about replying, and removing the ascps addy so that we continue only in aps? Thanks. Kane |
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Spanking Leads To Child Aggression And Anxiety, Regardless OfCultural Norm
krp wrote:
"Doan" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, krp wrote: "Doan" wrote in message ... First, the study is a correlation study. No CAUSATION can be implied. Thus, the claim that spanking "Leads" to child aggression and anxiety is bogus! Second, the authors themselves admitted that they included beatings that are certainly abusive in the USA in study. If you really want to debate this study, I am willing to give it a shot - no verbal abuse warranted. ;-) Wanna give me a try? My guess is you will be the one that do the avoidance and instead will use your little Kane9 to do the verbal abuse and attack for you. There is NO scientifically acceptable evidence that spanking causes aggression in Children. There is considerable evidence that a lack of spanking can produce sociopathy in children. Do you know that Kane is a "never-spanked" boy? Did you notice, Ken, that Doan didn't agree with you? Didn't contribute anything to the issue? My status or yours as having been spanked or not is not relevant to the issue if we are going to discuss facts....and FACTS seem to be what you claim you have. Shall we then? You first. Wouldn't surprise me. Looks as though you just refused to support your claims, two of them, with anything but games common to the dishonorable Doan. I've two prior posts in this thread here in asp. Presuming you might have missed them, because they are not cross-posted to ascps, I suggest you go to aps and look them up. Do not reply to this post in ascps, thank you. Those posts at aps are invitations. To you. Thanks. Kane |
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Spanking Leads To Child Aggression And Anxiety, Regardless OfCultural Norm
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, 0:- wrote:
krp wrote: "Doan" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, krp wrote: "Doan" wrote in message ... First, the study is a correlation study. No CAUSATION can be implied. Thus, the claim that spanking "Leads" to child aggression and anxiety is bogus! Second, the authors themselves admitted that they included beatings that are certainly abusive in the USA in study. If you really want to debate this study, I am willing to give it a shot - no verbal abuse warranted. ;-) Wanna give me a try? My guess is you will be the one that do the avoidance and instead will use your little Kane9 to do the verbal abuse and attack for you. There is NO scientifically acceptable evidence that spanking causes aggression in Children. There is considerable evidence that a lack of spanking can produce sociopathy in children. Do you know that Kane is a "never-spanked" boy? Did you notice, Ken, that Doan didn't agree with you? Didn't contribute anything to the issue? What? Where did I say that I didn't agree, Kane? There is no scientifically acceptable evidence that spanking causes aggression in Children! My status or yours as having been spanked or not is not relevant to the issue if we are going to discuss facts....and FACTS seem to be what you claim you have. Hihihi! Shall we then? You first. Where is the evidence that spanking CAUSES aggression in children? Doan |
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