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Old July 26th 05, 10:36 PM
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We Don Need No Steenkin'CPS

Kane's Komments on child protection issues, national and international
issues.

Kane: Over on alt.parenting.spanking there's a really brilliant fellow,
kind of reminds me of Doug on his worse days, that spouts the stupidest
claims imaginable. One is that when it comes to the use of corporal
punishment that, despite the high number that end up with injured
children and a CPS case, "parents know best."

That's like claiming that trash burners know best when it's too hot to
light up the burn barrel. There are plenty of forest fires, and abused
children to disprove both claims...and here's another one for you,
including...that perennial favorite, The Boyfriend.

There's other of our favorite elements as well: The Mandated Reporter,
the "busy body child care worker." Plus a mom that tried to hide it.
Wonder why? She SAYS because she was afraid of losing her children, but
if she'd brought charges against the perp (who she would have "lost" of
course, as she should have) she'd have kept her children.

Ex-boyfriend found guilty in spanking of 2 toddlers

7/26/05
Print this story

Day-care provider alerted Joplin police of suspicions

By Jeff Lehr

Globe Staff Writer

A Jasper County jury on Monday found a 26-year-old man guilty on two
counts of felony child abuse for using a wooden paddle inappropriately
and too forcibly in disciplining two preschool-age boys left in his
care.

The trial of Dustin R. Still, 906 S. Sergeant Ave., was conducted in a
single day in Jasper County Circuit Court in Joplin.

Still was charged in April 2004 after a day-care provider spotted
bruising on the buttocks of Alex Boyd, 3, and Nathaniel Boyd, 2, the
two sons of Still's girlfriend at the time, Cheena K. Tinsley, 26, 316
N. Mineral Ave., while helping them with potty training.

The day-care provider alerted Joplin police, and a child-abuse
investigation was launched involving the Children's Division of the
Missouri Department of Social Services.

"I noticed the bruises while I was getting them on the potty, and it
made me sick," day-care provider Beverly Lynette Brock testified
Monday.

She said the boys' mother had been dropping them off on weekdays for
about two months at the day-care business she operated at that time at
2409 Montana Place. She said she spotted the bruises on April 1, 2004.

That week, she said, the mother had not dropped the boys off on Monday
and Tuesday, but had done so on Wednesday and again Thursday, which was
April 1. The boys had not needed her assistance the previous day in
potty training, so she had not noticed any bruises that day, she said.

But their mother had told Brock on Wednesday of that week that one of
the boys had a bruise on his bottom from falling on toys while playing,
and that she need not be concerned with it. She told the court that she
had no reason at that time to suspect any child abuse, and she did not
check the boys.

But Brock said that when she saw the extent and severity of the
bruising on April 1, she knew she had to report it as a mandatory
child-abuse reporter under state law.

The state called four other witnesses, including Tinsley, to the stand
Monday in an effort to show how the investigation had developed Still
as a suspect and elicited a confession from him.

Tinsley told the court that she had been late for work and unable to
drop the boys off at their day-care provider's place on Monday, March
29. Instead, she had asked Still, her live-in boyfriend and the father
of her youngest child, 16-month-old Heather, to watch them since he had
recently lost his job at Jasper Foods and was unemployed.

She said she had an appointment after she got off work at McDonald's in
Webb City around 2 p.m. that day, and she did not get home until about
5 p.m. She found a note from Still informing her that he had left the
boys at her sister's when he had to leave for night school.

She said she did not notice anything wrong with the boys until their
bath time that night, when she noticed their buttocks were red with
spots of blue forming. She testified that she confronted Still about it
when he got home from night school.

"He said they were roughhousing and had their toys all over the place
and could have fallen on their toys," Tinsley testified.

She said she wanted to believe Still at the time, and she feared losing
custody of her children if the bruises were discovered by someone else.
So she told him he would have to watch the boys until the bruises went
away or until he got a job, and she told the day-care provider what the
provider testified she had said about just the one boy having a bruise.

Public defender Nicki Neil cross-examined Tinsley on a number of
points, including her own disciplining of the boys and whether she had
been cooperative with the investigation early on.

Tinsley acknowledged on cross-examination that she had spanked the boys
herself on the night of Sunday, March 28, 2004. She also acknowledged
that she had been having trouble potty-training the boys and had felt
frustration from time to time, but she denied spanking them on Monday
or Tuesday of the week in question.

Detective Michael Gayman of the Joplin Police Department testified that
Still had confessed to striking the boys several times with a wooden
paddle that Tinsley kept as a wall decoration in her home and with his
hand after becoming upset with them on March 29 for fighting and making
too much noise while his daughter was sleeping.

"He said that he had busted their butts with a paddle, a board," Gayman
testified.

Gayman said Still told him that he had gone into the boys' bedroom
three times to discipline them, and that he swatted them with the
paddle four to five times altogether and at least one more time each
with his hand.

The defendant did not testify on his own behalf. The defense called
Still's current girlfriend, Tracy Aston, as its lone witness in an
effort to dispute the state's case.

Aston testified that she had been with Still at Tinsley's home on the
day in question and had not seen him spank the boys with the paddle.

Assistant prosecutor Nate Dally asked her on cross-examination why she
had not come forward with this information until only recently, and why
she had never gone to police since it might clear Still of the charge.
She answered that she had not known what was going on in the case until
only recently, but that she remembered being with Still on the Monday
before April Fool's Day last year.

The jury took less than an hour to find Still guilty on two counts of
child abuse. Judge Jon Dermott ordered a pre-sentence investigation and
set sentencing for Sept. 2. The defendant is being prosecuted as a
persistent offender based on two prior convictions for passing bad
checks....
http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=198517

  #242  
Old July 26th 05, 10:39 PM
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We Don Need No Steenkin'CPS

Kane's Komments on child protection issues, national and international
issues.

Kane: Over on alt.parenting.spanking there's a really brilliant fellow,
kind of reminds me of Doug on his worse days, that spouts the stupidest
claims imaginable. One is that when it comes to the use of corporal
punishment that, despite the high number that end up with injured
children and a CPS case, "parents know best."

That's like claiming that trash burners know best when it's too hot to
light up the burn barrel. There are plenty of forest fires, and abused
children to disprove both claims...and here's another one for you,
including...that perennial favorite, The Boyfriend.

There's other of our favorite elements as well: The Mandated Reporter,
the "busy body child care worker." Plus a mom that tried to hide it.
Wonder why? She SAYS because she was afraid of losing her children, but
if she'd brought charges against the perp (who she would have "lost" of
course, as she should have) she'd have kept her children.

Ex-boyfriend found guilty in spanking of 2 toddlers

7/26/05
Print this story

Day-care provider alerted Joplin police of suspicions

By Jeff Lehr

Globe Staff Writer

A Jasper County jury on Monday found a 26-year-old man guilty on two
counts of felony child abuse for using a wooden paddle inappropriately
and too forcibly in disciplining two preschool-age boys left in his
care.

The trial of Dustin R. Still, 906 S. Sergeant Ave., was conducted in a
single day in Jasper County Circuit Court in Joplin.

Still was charged in April 2004 after a day-care provider spotted
bruising on the buttocks of Alex Boyd, 3, and Nathaniel Boyd, 2, the
two sons of Still's girlfriend at the time, Cheena K. Tinsley, 26, 316
N. Mineral Ave., while helping them with potty training.

The day-care provider alerted Joplin police, and a child-abuse
investigation was launched involving the Children's Division of the
Missouri Department of Social Services.

"I noticed the bruises while I was getting them on the potty, and it
made me sick," day-care provider Beverly Lynette Brock testified
Monday.

She said the boys' mother had been dropping them off on weekdays for
about two months at the day-care business she operated at that time at
2409 Montana Place. She said she spotted the bruises on April 1, 2004.

That week, she said, the mother had not dropped the boys off on Monday
and Tuesday, but had done so on Wednesday and again Thursday, which was
April 1. The boys had not needed her assistance the previous day in
potty training, so she had not noticed any bruises that day, she said.

But their mother had told Brock on Wednesday of that week that one of
the boys had a bruise on his bottom from falling on toys while playing,
and that she need not be concerned with it. She told the court that she
had no reason at that time to suspect any child abuse, and she did not
check the boys.

But Brock said that when she saw the extent and severity of the
bruising on April 1, she knew she had to report it as a mandatory
child-abuse reporter under state law.

The state called four other witnesses, including Tinsley, to the stand
Monday in an effort to show how the investigation had developed Still
as a suspect and elicited a confession from him.

Tinsley told the court that she had been late for work and unable to
drop the boys off at their day-care provider's place on Monday, March
29. Instead, she had asked Still, her live-in boyfriend and the father
of her youngest child, 16-month-old Heather, to watch them since he had
recently lost his job at Jasper Foods and was unemployed.

She said she had an appointment after she got off work at McDonald's in
Webb City around 2 p.m. that day, and she did not get home until about
5 p.m. She found a note from Still informing her that he had left the
boys at her sister's when he had to leave for night school.

She said she did not notice anything wrong with the boys until their
bath time that night, when she noticed their buttocks were red with
spots of blue forming. She testified that she confronted Still about it
when he got home from night school.

"He said they were roughhousing and had their toys all over the place
and could have fallen on their toys," Tinsley testified.

She said she wanted to believe Still at the time, and she feared losing
custody of her children if the bruises were discovered by someone else.
So she told him he would have to watch the boys until the bruises went
away or until he got a job, and she told the day-care provider what the
provider testified she had said about just the one boy having a bruise.

Public defender Nicki Neil cross-examined Tinsley on a number of
points, including her own disciplining of the boys and whether she had
been cooperative with the investigation early on.

Tinsley acknowledged on cross-examination that she had spanked the boys
herself on the night of Sunday, March 28, 2004. She also acknowledged
that she had been having trouble potty-training the boys and had felt
frustration from time to time, but she denied spanking them on Monday
or Tuesday of the week in question.

Detective Michael Gayman of the Joplin Police Department testified that
Still had confessed to striking the boys several times with a wooden
paddle that Tinsley kept as a wall decoration in her home and with his
hand after becoming upset with them on March 29 for fighting and making
too much noise while his daughter was sleeping.

"He said that he had busted their butts with a paddle, a board," Gayman
testified.

Gayman said Still told him that he had gone into the boys' bedroom
three times to discipline them, and that he swatted them with the
paddle four to five times altogether and at least one more time each
with his hand.

The defendant did not testify on his own behalf. The defense called
Still's current girlfriend, Tracy Aston, as its lone witness in an
effort to dispute the state's case.

Aston testified that she had been with Still at Tinsley's home on the
day in question and had not seen him spank the boys with the paddle.

Assistant prosecutor Nate Dally asked her on cross-examination why she
had not come forward with this information until only recently, and why
she had never gone to police since it might clear Still of the charge.
She answered that she had not known what was going on in the case until
only recently, but that she remembered being with Still on the Monday
before April Fool's Day last year.

The jury took less than an hour to find Still guilty on two counts of
child abuse. Judge Jon Dermott ordered a pre-sentence investigation and
set sentencing for Sept. 2. The defendant is being prosecuted as a
persistent offender based on two prior convictions for passing bad
checks....
http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=198517

  #243  
Old July 26th 05, 10:46 PM
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Kane: Well, bobber, whaddahthink? Obviously the boys weren't coerced.
Drugged and plied with alcohol of course, but not coerced.

Give us the gift of your wisdom on this one. 0:-

Mom Pleads Guilty to Hosting Sex Parties

Mon Jul 25, 6:29 PM ET

GOLDEN, Colo. - A woman who told police she wanted to be a "cool mom"
pleaded guilty to sexual assault charges Monday for having sex with
high school boys at parties where authorities said she supplied drugs
and alcohol.
ADVERTISEMENT

Silvia Johnson, 40, pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor counts of sexual
assault and nine felony counts of contributing to the delinquency of a
minor. As part of a plea agreement, prosecutors dropped two counts of
distribution of methamphetamine.

"She described herself as a `cool mom,'" Detective R.J. Vander Veen
wrote in the affidavit. He said Johnson told investigators "she was
never popular with classmates in high school and now began `feeling
like one of the group.'"

Prosecutors did not recommend a sentence, but each sexual assault count
carries up to two years in prison, and each count of contributing to
the delinquency of a minor carries up to six years, district attorney's
spokeswoman Pam Russell said.

Johnson, who is free on bail, held parties for the boys almost weekly
between October 2003 and October 2004, authorities said. She was
accused of providing drugs and alcohol to eight boys and having sex
with five of them.

Police said the investigation began after one of the boys told his
mother about the encounters, and she reported it to authorities.


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor..._sex_parties_2

  #244  
Old July 27th 05, 03:36 PM
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We Don Need No Steenkin'CPS

Kane's Komments on child protection issues, national
and international
issues.

Kane: Over on alt.parenting.spanking there's a really
brilliant fellow,
kind of reminds me of Doug on his worse days, that
spouts the stupidest
claims imaginable. One is that when it comes to the
use of corporal
punishment that, despite the high number that end up
with injured
children and a CPS case, "parents know best."

That's like claiming that trash burners know best
when it's too hot to
light up the burn barrel. There are plenty of forest
fires, and abused
children to disprove both claims...and here's another
one for you,
including...that perennial favorite, The Boyfriend.

There's other of our favorite elements as well: The
Mandated Reporter,
the "busy body child care worker." Plus a mom that
tried to hide it.
Wonder why? She SAYS because she was afraid of losing
her children, but
if she'd brought charges against the perp (who she
would have "lost" of
course, as she should have) she'd have kept her
children.

Ex-boyfriend found guilty in spanking of 2 toddlers

7/26/05
Print this story

Day-care provider alerted Joplin police of suspicions

By Jeff Lehr

Globe Staff Writer

A Jasper County jury on Monday found a 26-year-old
man guilty on two
counts of felony child abuse for using a wooden
paddle inappropriately
and too forcibly in disciplining two preschool-age
boys left in his
care.

The trial of Dustin R. Still, 906 S. Sergeant Ave.,
was conducted in a
single day in Jasper County Circuit Court in Joplin.

Still was charged in April 2004 after a day-care
provider spotted
bruising on the buttocks of Alex Boyd, 3, and
Nathaniel Boyd, 2, the
two sons of Still's girlfriend at the time, Cheena K.
Tinsley, 26, 316
N. Mineral Ave., while helping them with potty
training.

The day-care provider alerted Joplin police, and a
child-abuse
investigation was launched involving the Children's
Division of the
Missouri Department of Social Services.

"I noticed the bruises while I was getting them on
the potty, and it
made me sick," day-care provider Beverly Lynette
Brock testified
Monday.

She said the boys' mother had been dropping them off
on weekdays for
about two months at the day-care business she
operated at that time at
2409 Montana Place. She said she spotted the bruises
on April 1, 2004.

That week, she said, the mother had not dropped the
boys off on Monday
and Tuesday, but had done so on Wednesday and again
Thursday, which was
April 1. The boys had not needed her assistance the
previous day in
potty training, so she had not noticed any bruises
that day, she said.

But their mother had told Brock on Wednesday of that
week that one of
the boys had a bruise on his bottom from falling on
toys while playing,
and that she need not be concerned with it. She told
the court that she
had no reason at that time to suspect any child
abuse, and she did not
check the boys.

But Brock said that when she saw the extent and
severity of the
bruising on April 1, she knew she had to report it as
a mandatory
child-abuse reporter under state law.

The state called four other witnesses, including
Tinsley, to the stand
Monday in an effort to show how the investigation had
developed Still
as a suspect and elicited a confession from him.

Tinsley told the court that she had been late for
work and unable to
drop the boys off at their day-care provider's place
on Monday, March
29. Instead, she had asked Still, her live-in
boyfriend and the father
of her youngest child, 16-month-old Heather, to watch
them since he had
recently lost his job at Jasper Foods and was
unemployed.

She said she had an appointment after she got off
work at McDonald's in
Webb City around 2 p.m. that day, and she did not get
home until about
5 p.m. She found a note from Still informing her that
he had left the
boys at her sister's when he had to leave for night
school.

She said she did not notice anything wrong with the
boys until their
bath time that night, when she noticed their buttocks
were red with
spots of blue forming. She testified that she
confronted Still about it
when he got home from night school.

"He said they were roughhousing and had their toys
all over the place
and could have fallen on their toys," Tinsley
testified.

She said she wanted to believe Still at the time, and
she feared losing
custody of her children if the bruises were
discovered by someone else.
So she told him he would have to watch the boys until
the bruises went
away or until he got a job, and she told the day-care
provider what the
provider testified she had said about just the one
boy having a bruise.

Public defender Nicki Neil cross-examined Tinsley on
a number of
points, including her own disciplining of the boys
and whether she had
been cooperative with the investigation early on.

Tinsley acknowledged on cross-examination that she
had spanked the boys
herself on the night of Sunday, March 28, 2004. She
also acknowledged
that she had been having trouble potty-training the
boys and had felt
frustration from time to time, but she denied
spanking them on Monday
or Tuesday of the week in question.

Detective Michael Gayman of the Joplin Police
Department testified that
Still had confessed to striking the boys several
times with a wooden
paddle that Tinsley kept as a wall decoration in her
home and with his
hand after becoming upset with them on March 29 for
fighting and making
too much noise while his daughter was sleeping.

"He said that he had busted their butts with a
paddle, a board," Gayman
testified.

Gayman said Still told him that he had gone into the
boys' bedroom
three times to discipline them, and that he swatted
them with the
paddle four to five times altogether and at least one
more time each
with his hand.

The defendant did not testify on his own behalf. The
defense called
Still's current girlfriend, Tracy Aston, as its lone
witness in an
effort to dispute the state's case.

Aston testified that she had been with Still at
Tinsley's home on the
day in question and had not seen him spank the boys
with the paddle.

Assistant prosecutor Nate Dally asked her on
cross-examination why she
had not come forward with this information until only
recently, and why
she had never gone to police since it might clear
Still of the charge.
She answered that she had not known what was going on
in the case until
only recently, but that she remembered being with
Still on the Monday
before April Fool's Day last year.

The jury took less than an hour to find Still guilty
on two counts of
child abuse. Judge Jon Dermott ordered a pre-sentence
investigation and
set sentencing for Sept. 2. The defendant is being
prosecuted as a
persistent offender based on two prior convictions
for passing bad
checks....
http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=198517



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Kane's SPEWING on child protection issues, national
and international
issues AND OTHER ARCANE STUPIDITY TO SHOW OFF HE
KNOWS HOW TO TYPE WITH ONE HAND.

Kane: Over on alt.parenting.spanking there's a really
brilliant fellow,
kind of reminds me of Doug on his worse days, that
spouts the stupidest
claims imaginable.

KANERS DON'T LIKE IT WHEN THEY MEET CLONES; IT
IRRITATES IT.


  #246  
Old July 27th 05, 03:40 PM
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Kane: Well, bobber, whaddahthink? Obviously the boys
weren't coerced.
Drugged and plied with alcohol of course, but not
coerced.

AS IF IT REALLY CARED, EH FOLKS? BECAUSE IT CAN FIND
THE KEYBOARD IT THINKS EVERYONE MUST WANT TO USE IT.
WHAT A PHONEY! IT EVEN GETS OFF ON READING ITS OWN
WORDS.


  #247  
Old July 27th 05, 05:34 PM
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Kane: That old boy friend number yet again. And a very good reason to
check up on who you leave with your children.....seems he had shaken
his 7 week old son to death sometime in the past. Nice guy.

Ex-Felon Arrested In Child Abuse Case

POSTED: 2:55 pm CDT July 26, 2005

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- An ex-felon is in the Jefferson County Jail Tuesday
charged with child sex abuse. Sheriff's investigators arrested
35-year-old Robert Burson on charges he abused two children under the
age of 12. Authorities said the children were the four and five years
old daughters of two women who live together and allowed Burson to
sometimes stay at the residence.....

http://www.nbc13.com/news/4771842/detail.html


Kane: This next one is tailor made for brilliant bobber. Seems it's a
heresay case but the appellant lost. Maybe bobber thinks he should have
killed her and saved himself all this trouble.

Posted on Tue, Jul. 26, 2005

Miss. Appeals Court upholds child abuse conviction

Associated Press

JACKSON, Miss. - The state Court of Appeals has upheld the conviction
of Gregory Glen Elkins, who was sentenced to 10 years in prison in 2003
in Oktibbeha County for fondling a child.

Authorities said Elkins was indicted for the alleged molestation of the
14-year-old girl over a four-year period beginning in 1996.

Elkins was arrested by Starkville police in 2002 after the girl's
mother filed a report and the victim was interviewed.......
http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunhera...s/12227490.htm

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Old July 27th 05, 08:53 PM
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Kane DRIZZLED : That old boy friend number yet again.
And a very good reason to
check up on who you leave with your
children.....seems he had shaken
his 7 week old son to death sometime in the past.
Nice guy.

Ex-Felon Arrested In Child Abuse Case

POSTED: 2:55 pm CDT July 26, 2005

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- An ex-felon is in the Jefferson
County Jail Tuesday

....


 




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