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Old October 16th 07, 10:05 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
fx
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Default New details on foster mother accused of murder

New details on foster mother accused of murder

http://www.koaa.com/news/view.asp?ID=9079

There's new information tonight on foster mother accused of murdering a
toddler in her care. 2 Year old Alize Vick was found unconscious Tuesday
at the El Paso County home of Jules Cuneo. Cuneo was her foster mother,
who later admitted to investigators that she threw the little girl.
Alize died a day later.

The investigation into this murder now moves into Cuneo's past.
Investigators are now going through several files on Cuneo to determine
if there were any signs of abuse leading to this little girl's death.

Jules Cuneo cried as a judge advised of her of the first degree murder
charges against her on Thursday. The foster mother is accused of killing
Alize in a fit of frustration. She told sheriff's deputies that she
threw the girl. On Thursday, we spoke with Alize's biological
grandmother. She says, "I stressed concerns about the bruising on Alize
2 or 3 times."

Apparently she wasn't the only one. According to investigators, in May
while Alize was in Cuneo's care, a tape recording, allegedly of Cuneo,
was turned over to the Department of Human Services. Bureau Chief Joe
Breister works with the El Paso County Sheriff's Office.
He says, "There appears to be an incident that was called in anonymously
to the Department of Human Services."

What was on that recording is still under wraps. There were at least 4
complaints, over several years, that were filed with the Department of
Human Services. Cuneo was hired as a foster parent through Kid's
Crossing. That is a contractor with the Department of Human Services.
Barbara Drake is the director there. She says this is a tragedy that's
not being ignored. She says, "We need to sort of look at what we did,
how we responded. Are there things we can do differently, or better in
the future."

Drake says each foster parent goes through extensive training. They are
subjected to background checks. They are also tested for mental illness.
There are also caseworkers sent to check on foster families. Drake says,
"There is a requirement that case workers be in the home a minimum of
once a month. They have to see the child, interact with that child."

If Cuneo did kill Alize, with all the training, and supervision, the
question remains. Could this have been avoided? A statement was released
by the attorney for Kid's Crossing. It says, "Thank you for your inquiry
to Kid's Crossing. The hearts, and prayers of everyone at Kid's Crossing
are with this little girl. Kid's Crossing has provided, and will
continue to provide, the authorities with information, and assistance,
and a complete, and thorough investigation of this tragic event.

According to the Department of Human Services in El Paso county, this is
first time a foster parent has been accused of murdering someone in
their care in about 20 years.




CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NSA / CIA
WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....

CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.

every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com

Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS

*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*

Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5

Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that
are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per
100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse
and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the
citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold
parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY
government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and
death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more
human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which
they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that
they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when
children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a
bunch of social workers.


CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, HAPPILY DESTROYING THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT
FAMILIES YEARLY NATIONWIDE AND COMING TO YOU'RE HOME SOON...


BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY
ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...
  #2  
Old October 16th 07, 10:10 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
firemonkey
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Default New details on foster mother accused of murder

On Oct 16, 4:05 pm, fx wrote:
New details on foster mother accused of murder

http://www.koaa.com/news/view.asp?ID=9079

There's new information tonight on foster mother accused of murdering a
toddler in her care. 2 Year old Alize Vick was found unconscious Tuesday
at the El Paso County home of Jules Cuneo. Cuneo was her foster mother,
who later admitted to investigators that she threw the little girl.
Alize died a day later.

The investigation into this murder now moves into Cuneo's past.
Investigators are now going through several files on Cuneo to determine
if there were any signs of abuse leading to this little girl's death.

Jules Cuneo cried as a judge advised of her of the first degree murder
charges against her on Thursday. The foster mother is accused of killing
Alize in a fit of frustration. She told sheriff's deputies that she
threw the girl. On Thursday, we spoke with Alize's biological
grandmother. She says, "I stressed concerns about the bruising on Alize
2 or 3 times."

Apparently she wasn't the only one. According to investigators, in May
while Alize was in Cuneo's care, a tape recording, allegedly of Cuneo,
was turned over to the Department of Human Services. Bureau Chief Joe
Breister works with the El Paso County Sheriff's Office.
He says, "There appears to be an incident that was called in anonymously
to the Department of Human Services."

What was on that recording is still under wraps. There were at least 4
complaints, over several years, that were filed with the Department of
Human Services. Cuneo was hired as a foster parent through Kid's
Crossing. That is a contractor with the Department of Human Services.
Barbara Drake is the director there. She says this is a tragedy that's
not being ignored. She says, "We need to sort of look at what we did,
how we responded. Are there things we can do differently, or better in
the future."

Drake says each foster parent goes through extensive training. They are
subjected to background checks. They are also tested for mental illness.
There are also caseworkers sent to check on foster families. Drake says,
"There is a requirement that case workers be in the home a minimum of
once a month. They have to see the child, interact with that child."

If Cuneo did kill Alize, with all the training, and supervision, the
question remains. Could this have been avoided? A statement was released
by the attorney for Kid's Crossing. It says, "Thank you for your inquiry
to Kid's Crossing. The hearts, and prayers of everyone at Kid's Crossing
are with this little girl. Kid's Crossing has provided, and will
continue to provide, the authorities with information, and assistance,
and a complete, and thorough investigation of this tragic event.

According to the Department of Human Services in El Paso county, this is
first time a foster parent has been accused of murdering someone in
their care in about 20 years.

CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NSA / CIA
WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....

CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.

every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com

Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS

*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*

Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5

Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that
are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per
100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse
and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the
citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold
parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY
government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and
death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more
human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which
they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that
they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when
children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a
bunch of social workers.

CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, HAPPILY DESTROYING THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT
FAMILIES YEARLY NATIONWIDE AND COMING TO YOU'RE HOME SOON...

BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY
ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...


Why was this child in foster care to begin with? Where was her mother
and father?

  #3  
Old October 17th 07, 02:33 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
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Default New details on foster mother accused of murder


"fx" wrote in message
...
New details on foster mother accused of murder

http://www.koaa.com/news/view.asp?ID=9079

There's new information tonight on foster mother accused of murdering a
toddler in her care. 2 Year old Alize Vick was found unconscious Tuesday
at the El Paso County home of Jules Cuneo. Cuneo was her foster mother,
who later admitted to investigators that she threw the little girl. Alize
died a day later.

The investigation into this murder now moves into Cuneo's past.
Investigators are now going through several files on Cuneo to determine if
there were any signs of abuse leading to this little girl's death.

Jules Cuneo cried as a judge advised of her of the first degree murder
charges against her on Thursday. The foster mother is accused of killing
Alize in a fit of frustration. She told sheriff's deputies that she threw
the girl. On Thursday, we spoke with Alize's biological grandmother. She
says, "I stressed concerns about the bruising on Alize 2 or 3 times."

Apparently she wasn't the only one. According to investigators, in May
while Alize was in Cuneo's care, a tape recording, allegedly of Cuneo, was
turned over to the Department of Human Services. Bureau Chief Joe Breister
works with the El Paso County Sheriff's Office.
He says, "There appears to be an incident that was called in anonymously
to the Department of Human Services."

What was on that recording is still under wraps. There were at least 4
complaints, over several years, that were filed with the Department of
Human Services. Cuneo was


*hired*

as a foster parent through Kid's
Crossing. That is a contractor with the Department of Human Services.
Barbara Drake is the director there. She says this is a tragedy that's not
being ignored. She says,


*"We need to sort of look at what we did,
how we responded. Are there things we can do differently, or better in the
future."*




Drake says each foster parent goes through extensive training. They are
subjected to background checks. They are also tested for mental illness.
There are also caseworkers sent to check on foster families. Drake says,
"There is a requirement that case workers be in the home a minimum of once
a month. They have to see the child, interact with that child."



*If Cuneo did kill Alize,*

with all the training, and supervision, the
question remains.


*Could this have been avoided?*

A statement was released
by the attorney for Kid's Crossing. It says, "Thank you for your inquiry
to Kid's Crossing. The hearts, and prayers of everyone at Kid's Crossing
are with this little girl. Kid's Crossing has provided, and will continue
to provide, the authorities with information, and assistance, and a
complete, and thorough investigation of this tragic event.

According to the Department of Human Services in El Paso county, this is
first time a foster parent has been accused of murdering someone in their
care in about 20 years.




CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A DAILY
BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NSA / CIA WIRETAPPING
PROGRAM....

CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.

every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com

Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS

*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*

Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5

Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that are
supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per 100,000
children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse and kills
more children then parents in the United States. If the citizens of this
country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold parents too. No
judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY government agency
because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and death than any human
being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more human rights violations
and deaths of children then the homes from which they were removed. When
are the judges going to wake up and see that they are sending children to
their death and a life of abuse when children are removed from safe homes
based on the mere opinion of a bunch of social workers.


CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, HAPPILY DESTROYING THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT
FAMILIES YEARLY NATIONWIDE AND COMING TO YOU'RE HOME SOON...


BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF REFORMING
OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES TAKE A
STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY ARE
"FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...



  #4  
Old October 17th 07, 11:09 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents
Sherman
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Default New details on parents of murdered child


"dragonsgirl" wrote in message
et...

"fx" wrote in message
...
New details on foster mother accused of murder

http://www.koaa.com/news/view.asp?ID=9079

There's new information tonight on foster mother accused of murdering a
toddler in her care. 2 Year old Alize Vick was found unconscious Tuesday
at the El Paso County home of Jules Cuneo. Cuneo was her foster mother,
who later admitted to investigators that she threw the little girl. Alize
died a day later.

The investigation into this murder now moves into Cuneo's past.
Investigators are now going through several files on Cuneo to determine
if there were any signs of abuse leading to this little girl's death.

Jules Cuneo cried as a judge advised of her of the first degree murder
charges against her on Thursday. The foster mother is accused of killing
Alize in a fit of frustration. She told sheriff's deputies that she threw
the girl. On Thursday, we spoke with Alize's biological grandmother. She
says, "I stressed concerns about the bruising on Alize 2 or 3 times."

Apparently she wasn't the only one. According to investigators, in May
while Alize was in Cuneo's care, a tape recording, allegedly of Cuneo,
was turned over to the Department of Human Services. Bureau Chief Joe
Breister works with the El Paso County Sheriff's Office.
He says, "There appears to be an incident that was called in anonymously
to the Department of Human Services."

What was on that recording is still under wraps. There were at least 4
complaints, over several years, that were filed with the Department of
Human Services. Cuneo was


*hired*

as a foster parent through Kid's
Crossing. That is a contractor with the Department of Human Services.
Barbara Drake is the director there. She says this is a tragedy that's
not being ignored. She says,


*"We need to sort of look at what we did,
how we responded. Are there things we can do differently, or better in
the future."*




Drake says each foster parent goes through extensive training. They are
subjected to background checks. They are also tested for mental illness.
There are also caseworkers sent to check on foster families. Drake says,
"There is a requirement that case workers be in the home a minimum of
once a month. They have to see the child, interact with that child."



*If Cuneo did kill Alize,*

with all the training, and supervision, the
question remains.


*Could this have been avoided?*

A statement was released
by the attorney for Kid's Crossing. It says, "Thank you for your inquiry
to Kid's Crossing. The hearts, and prayers of everyone at Kid's Crossing
are with this little girl. Kid's Crossing has provided, and will continue
to provide, the authorities with information, and assistance, and a
complete, and thorough investigation of this tragic event.

According to the Department of Human Services in El Paso county, this is
first time a foster parent has been accused of murdering someone in their
care in about 20 years.



Her mommy is in jail on drug charges. Both of her babies had been removed
and placed in foster care with mammoth foster mommy. Sherman

More information below:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...s=den&psp=news
Heil said the children's parents, 20-year-old Ashley Lindenberger and
22-year-old Christopher Vick, are in jail. Heil said Lindenberger is being
held on drug charges. Vick is serving six months for assault, according to
jail records.


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Old October 17th 07, 11:30 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
Sherman
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Posts: 38
Default New details on foster mother accused of murder


"firemonkey" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 16, 4:05 pm, fx wrote:
New details on foster mother accused of murder

http://www.koaa.com/news/view.asp?ID=9079

There's new information tonight on foster mother accused of murdering a
toddler in her care. 2 Year old Alize Vick was found unconscious Tuesday
at the El Paso County home of Jules Cuneo. Cuneo was her foster mother,
who later admitted to investigators that she threw the little girl.
Alize died a day later.

The investigation into this murder now moves into Cuneo's past.
Investigators are now going through several files on Cuneo to determine
if there were any signs of abuse leading to this little girl's death.

Jules Cuneo cried as a judge advised of her of the first degree murder
charges against her on Thursday. The foster mother is accused of killing
Alize in a fit of frustration. She told sheriff's deputies that she
threw the girl. On Thursday, we spoke with Alize's biological
grandmother. She says, "I stressed concerns about the bruising on Alize
2 or 3 times."

Apparently she wasn't the only one. According to investigators, in May
while Alize was in Cuneo's care, a tape recording, allegedly of Cuneo,
was turned over to the Department of Human Services. Bureau Chief Joe
Breister works with the El Paso County Sheriff's Office.
He says, "There appears to be an incident that was called in anonymously
to the Department of Human Services."

What was on that recording is still under wraps. There were at least 4
complaints, over several years, that were filed with the Department of
Human Services. Cuneo was hired as a foster parent through Kid's
Crossing. That is a contractor with the Department of Human Services.
Barbara Drake is the director there. She says this is a tragedy that's
not being ignored. She says, "We need to sort of look at what we did,
how we responded. Are there things we can do differently, or better in
the future."

Drake says each foster parent goes through extensive training. They are
subjected to background checks. They are also tested for mental illness.
There are also caseworkers sent to check on foster families. Drake says,
"There is a requirement that case workers be in the home a minimum of
once a month. They have to see the child, interact with that child."

If Cuneo did kill Alize, with all the training, and supervision, the
question remains. Could this have been avoided? A statement was released
by the attorney for Kid's Crossing. It says, "Thank you for your inquiry
to Kid's Crossing. The hearts, and prayers of everyone at Kid's Crossing
are with this little girl. Kid's Crossing has provided, and will
continue to provide, the authorities with information, and assistance,
and a complete, and thorough investigation of this tragic event.

According to the Department of Human Services in El Paso county, this is
first time a foster parent has been accused of murdering someone in
their care in about 20 years.

CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NSA / CIA
WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....

CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.

every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com

Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS

*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*

Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5

Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that
are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per
100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse
and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the
citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold
parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY
government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and
death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more
human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which
they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that
they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when
children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a
bunch of social workers.

CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, HAPPILY DESTROYING THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT
FAMILIES YEARLY NATIONWIDE AND COMING TO YOU'RE HOME SOON...

BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY
ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...


Why was this child in foster care to begin with? Where was her mother
and father?


Their two babies were impounded last spring.
Where's Mommy & Daddy?
In jail.
Drugs!

Sherman.


  #6  
Old October 17th 07, 01:51 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
firemonkey
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Posts: 548
Default New details on foster mother accused of murder

On Oct 17, 5:30 am, "Sherman" wrote:
"firemonkey" wrote in message

oups.com...



On Oct 16, 4:05 pm, fx wrote:
New details on foster mother accused of murder


http://www.koaa.com/news/view.asp?ID=9079


There's new information tonight on foster mother accused of murdering a
toddler in her care. 2 Year old Alize Vick was found unconscious Tuesday
at the El Paso County home of Jules Cuneo. Cuneo was her foster mother,
who later admitted to investigators that she threw the little girl.
Alize died a day later.


The investigation into this murder now moves into Cuneo's past.
Investigators are now going through several files on Cuneo to determine
if there were any signs of abuse leading to this little girl's death.


Jules Cuneo cried as a judge advised of her of the first degree murder
charges against her on Thursday. The foster mother is accused of killing
Alize in a fit of frustration. She told sheriff's deputies that she
threw the girl. On Thursday, we spoke with Alize's biological
grandmother. She says, "I stressed concerns about the bruising on Alize
2 or 3 times."


Apparently she wasn't the only one. According to investigators, in May
while Alize was in Cuneo's care, a tape recording, allegedly of Cuneo,
was turned over to the Department of Human Services. Bureau Chief Joe
Breister works with the El Paso County Sheriff's Office.
He says, "There appears to be an incident that was called in anonymously
to the Department of Human Services."


What was on that recording is still under wraps. There were at least 4
complaints, over several years, that were filed with the Department of
Human Services. Cuneo was hired as a foster parent through Kid's
Crossing. That is a contractor with the Department of Human Services.
Barbara Drake is the director there. She says this is a tragedy that's
not being ignored. She says, "We need to sort of look at what we did,
how we responded. Are there things we can do differently, or better in
the future."


Drake says each foster parent goes through extensive training. They are
subjected to background checks. They are also tested for mental illness.
There are also caseworkers sent to check on foster families. Drake says,
"There is a requirement that case workers be in the home a minimum of
once a month. They have to see the child, interact with that child."


If Cuneo did kill Alize, with all the training, and supervision, the
question remains. Could this have been avoided? A statement was released
by the attorney for Kid's Crossing. It says, "Thank you for your inquiry
to Kid's Crossing. The hearts, and prayers of everyone at Kid's Crossing
are with this little girl. Kid's Crossing has provided, and will
continue to provide, the authorities with information, and assistance,
and a complete, and thorough investigation of this tragic event.


According to the Department of Human Services in El Paso county, this is
first time a foster parent has been accused of murdering someone in
their care in about 20 years.


CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NSA / CIA
WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....


CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.


every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...


http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf


http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com


Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS


*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*


Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5


Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that
are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per
100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse
and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the
citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold
parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY
government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and
death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more
human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which
they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that
they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when
children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a
bunch of social workers.


CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, HAPPILY DESTROYING THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT
FAMILIES YEARLY NATIONWIDE AND COMING TO YOU'RE HOME SOON...


BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY
ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...


Why was this child in foster care to begin with? Where was her mother
and father?


Their two babies were impounded last spring.
Where's Mommy & Daddy?
In jail.
Drugs!

Sherman.


Same old story, over and over and over , drugged & drunken thugs
having throw away babies. Procreating like dogs let to run loose.
Then bitching because the government screws up. If you can't , at the
very least, love your children more than getting high, don't have
them. Birth control is everywhere. The first line is the parents.Its
simple biology.

"It's not a nightmare, bitch, so wake up from yours. It's a murder
committed by the foster parent, not CPS or the biological parents or
anyone else. That's the answer. " Who is the half witted bitch
Micheal??

It was a nightmare for a couple babies who were born needing to be
loved and cared for, which for most people, parents, is instinctual,
but were squandered by their parents and for the little one who was
murdered.

I hope this foster mom fries, she needs to. So does whoever is
responsible for signing off on her and ignoring the warning signs.
I also hope other drug soaked people who are too busy getting high
hear about this and somewhere in their brains it registers.....go to
clinic.. get rubbers/pills for free. doing dope + having babies =
baaaaddddd things man, babies die.

Babies don't get having to lay around and be quiet till mommie and
daddy come down, they don't get having to go out and fine the food
they need to live cause mama spent all their money on crack. Babies
don't wait, they don't have the time.

" I for one don't give the **** what you like or not." Apparently you
do you half witted bitch.


  #7  
Old October 17th 07, 03:56 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
LK
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Posts: 66
Default New details on foster mother accused of murder

On Oct 17, 8:51 am, firemonkey wrote:
On Oct 17, 5:30 am, "Sherman" wrote:

"firemonkey" wrote in message


roups.com...


On Oct 16, 4:05 pm, fx wrote:
New details on foster mother accused of murder


http://www.koaa.com/news/view.asp?ID=9079


There's new information tonight on foster mother accused of murdering a
toddler in her care. 2 Year old Alize Vick was found unconscious Tuesday
at the El Paso County home of Jules Cuneo. Cuneo was her foster mother,
who later admitted to investigators that she threw the little girl.
Alize died a day later.


The investigation into this murder now moves into Cuneo's past.
Investigators are now going through several files on Cuneo to determine
if there were any signs of abuse leading to this little girl's death.


Jules Cuneo cried as a judge advised of her of the first degree murder
charges against her on Thursday. The foster mother is accused of killing
Alize in a fit of frustration. She told sheriff's deputies that she
threw the girl. On Thursday, we spoke with Alize's biological
grandmother. She says, "I stressed concerns about the bruising on Alize
2 or 3 times."


Apparently she wasn't the only one. According to investigators, in May
while Alize was in Cuneo's care, a tape recording, allegedly of Cuneo,
was turned over to the Department of Human Services. Bureau Chief Joe
Breister works with the El Paso County Sheriff's Office.
He says, "There appears to be an incident that was called in anonymously
to the Department of Human Services."


What was on that recording is still under wraps. There were at least 4
complaints, over several years, that were filed with the Department of
Human Services. Cuneo was hired as a foster parent through Kid's
Crossing. That is a contractor with the Department of Human Services.
Barbara Drake is the director there. She says this is a tragedy that's
not being ignored. She says, "We need to sort of look at what we did,
how we responded. Are there things we can do differently, or better in
the future."


Drake says each foster parent goes through extensive training. They are
subjected to background checks. They are also tested for mental illness.
There are also caseworkers sent to check on foster families. Drake says,
"There is a requirement that case workers be in the home a minimum of
once a month. They have to see the child, interact with that child."


If Cuneo did kill Alize, with all the training, and supervision, the
question remains. Could this have been avoided? A statement was released
by the attorney for Kid's Crossing. It says, "Thank you for your inquiry
to Kid's Crossing. The hearts, and prayers of everyone at Kid's Crossing
are with this little girl. Kid's Crossing has provided, and will
continue to provide, the authorities with information, and assistance,
and a complete, and thorough investigation of this tragic event.


According to the Department of Human Services in El Paso county, this is
first time a foster parent has been accused of murdering someone in
their care in about 20 years.


CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NSA / CIA
WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....


CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.


every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...


http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf


http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com


Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS


*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*


Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5


Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that
are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per
100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse
and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the
citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold
parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY
government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and
death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more
human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which
they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that
they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when
children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a
bunch of social workers.


CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, HAPPILY DESTROYING THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT
FAMILIES YEARLY NATIONWIDE AND COMING TO YOU'RE HOME SOON...


BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY
ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...


Why was this child in foster care to begin with? Where was her mother
and father?


Their two babies were impounded last spring.
Where's Mommy & Daddy?
In jail.
Drugs!


Sherman.


Same old story, over and over and over , drugged & drunken thugs
having throw away babies. Procreating like dogs let to run loose.
Then bitching because the government screws up. If you can't , at the
very least, love your children more than getting high, don't have
them. Birth control is everywhere. The first line is the parents.Its
simple biology.

"It's not a nightmare, bitch, so wake up from yours. It's a murder
committed by the foster parent, not CPS or the biological parents or
anyone else. That's the answer. " Who is the half witted bitch
Micheal??

It was a nightmare for a couple babies who were born needing to be
loved and cared for, which for most people, parents, is instinctual,
but were squandered by their parents and for the little one who was
murdered.

I hope this foster mom fries, she needs to. So does whoever is
responsible for signing off on her and ignoring the warning signs.
I also hope other drug soaked people who are too busy getting high
hear about this and somewhere in their brains it registers.....go to
clinic.. get rubbers/pills for free. doing dope + having babies =
baaaaddddd things man, babies die.

Babies don't get having to lay around and be quiet till mommie and
daddy come down, they don't get having to go out and fine the food
they need to live cause mama spent all their money on crack. Babies
don't wait, they don't have the time.

" I for one don't give the **** what you like or not." Apparently you
do you half witted bitch.


You know, the mother is probably sitting in her jail cell right now
thinking the same exact thing. "If I didn't screw up, my kid wouldn't
have been placed into foster care and would still be alive today."
She will probably go through the rest of her life blaiming everybody
involved, including herself. But who cares about her right? It was
her own choices that brought her to that point in her life.

But at least she didn't murder anyone.

I'm not trying to justify her actions in any way, we do dig our own
holes. But in this case, the punnishment for whatever she did is a
little extreme, so have a little sympathy.



  #8  
Old October 17th 07, 04:31 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
firemonkey
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Posts: 548
Default New details on foster mother accused of murder

On Oct 17, 9:56 am, LK wrote:
On Oct 17, 8:51 am, firemonkey wrote:



On Oct 17, 5:30 am, "Sherman" wrote:


"firemonkey" wrote in message


roups.com...


On Oct 16, 4:05 pm, fx wrote:
New details on foster mother accused of murder


http://www.koaa.com/news/view.asp?ID=9079


There's new information tonight on foster mother accused of murdering a
toddler in her care. 2 Year old Alize Vick was found unconscious Tuesday
at the El Paso County home of Jules Cuneo. Cuneo was her foster mother,
who later admitted to investigators that she threw the little girl.
Alize died a day later.


The investigation into this murder now moves into Cuneo's past.
Investigators are now going through several files on Cuneo to determine
if there were any signs of abuse leading to this little girl's death.


Jules Cuneo cried as a judge advised of her of the first degree murder
charges against her on Thursday. The foster mother is accused of killing
Alize in a fit of frustration. She told sheriff's deputies that she
threw the girl. On Thursday, we spoke with Alize's biological
grandmother. She says, "I stressed concerns about the bruising on Alize
2 or 3 times."


Apparently she wasn't the only one. According to investigators, in May
while Alize was in Cuneo's care, a tape recording, allegedly of Cuneo,
was turned over to the Department of Human Services. Bureau Chief Joe
Breister works with the El Paso County Sheriff's Office.
He says, "There appears to be an incident that was called in anonymously
to the Department of Human Services."


What was on that recording is still under wraps. There were at least 4
complaints, over several years, that were filed with the Department of
Human Services. Cuneo was hired as a foster parent through Kid's
Crossing. That is a contractor with the Department of Human Services.
Barbara Drake is the director there. She says this is a tragedy that's
not being ignored. She says, "We need to sort of look at what we did,
how we responded. Are there things we can do differently, or better in
the future."


Drake says each foster parent goes through extensive training. They are
subjected to background checks. They are also tested for mental illness.
There are also caseworkers sent to check on foster families. Drake says,
"There is a requirement that case workers be in the home a minimum of
once a month. They have to see the child, interact with that child."


If Cuneo did kill Alize, with all the training, and supervision, the
question remains. Could this have been avoided? A statement was released
by the attorney for Kid's Crossing. It says, "Thank you for your inquiry
to Kid's Crossing. The hearts, and prayers of everyone at Kid's Crossing
are with this little girl. Kid's Crossing has provided, and will
continue to provide, the authorities with information, and assistance,
and a complete, and thorough investigation of this tragic event.


According to the Department of Human Services in El Paso county, this is
first time a foster parent has been accused of murdering someone in
their care in about 20 years.


CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NSA / CIA
WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....


CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.


every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...


http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf


http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com


Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS


*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*


Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5


Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that
are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per
100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse
and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the
citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold
parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY
government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and
death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more
human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which
they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that
they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when
children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a
bunch of social workers.


CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, HAPPILY DESTROYING THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT
FAMILIES YEARLY NATIONWIDE AND COMING TO YOU'RE HOME SOON...


BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY
ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...


Why was this child in foster care to begin with? Where was her mother
and father?


Their two babies were impounded last spring.
Where's Mommy & Daddy?
In jail.
Drugs!


Sherman.


Same old story, over and over and over , drugged & drunken thugs
having throw away babies. Procreating like dogs let to run loose.
Then bitching because the government screws up. If you can't , at the
very least, love your children more than getting high, don't have
them. Birth control is everywhere. The first line is the parents.Its
simple biology.


"It's not a nightmare, bitch, so wake up from yours. It's a murder
committed by the foster parent, not CPS or the biological parents or
anyone else. That's the answer. " Who is the half witted bitch
Micheal??


It was a nightmare for a couple babies who were born needing to be
loved and cared for, which for most people, parents, is instinctual,
but were squandered by their parents and for the little one who was
murdered.


I hope this foster mom fries, she needs to. So does whoever is
responsible for signing off on her and ignoring the warning signs.
I also hope other drug soaked people who are too busy getting high
hear about this and somewhere in their brains it registers.....go to
clinic.. get rubbers/pills for free. doing dope + having babies =
baaaaddddd things man, babies die.


Babies don't get having to lay around and be quiet till mommie and
daddy come down, they don't get having to go out and fine the food
they need to live cause mama spent all their money on crack. Babies
don't wait, they don't have the time.


" I for one don't give the **** what you like or not." Apparently you
do you half witted bitch.


You know, the mother is probably sitting in her jail cell right now
thinking the same exact thing. "If I didn't screw up, my kid wouldn't
have been placed into foster care and would still be alive today."
She will probably go through the rest of her life blaiming everybody
involved, including herself. But who cares about her right? It was
her own choices that brought her to that point in her life.

But at least she didn't murder anyone.

I'm not trying to justify her actions in any way, we do dig our own
holes. But in this case, the punnishment for whatever she did is a
little extreme, so have a little sympathy.


I'll pass, just like she did on caring for the baby and keeping her
out of foster care in the first place, but hey, thanks for the tip.
She could make her "pain" work for good and speak to other young women
who are started down a road like she choose to travel, get them to
realize that getting high and recreationally giving birth to little
completely dependant human beings is not a good idea, maybe then I'll
show her a little more compassion then she did her own flesh and blood.

  #9  
Old October 17th 07, 04:48 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
firemonkey
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Posts: 548
Default New details on foster mother accused of murder

On Oct 17, 10:31 am, firemonkey wrote:
On Oct 17, 9:56 am, LK wrote:



On Oct 17, 8:51 am, firemonkey wrote:


On Oct 17, 5:30 am, "Sherman" wrote:


"firemonkey" wrote in message


roups.com...


On Oct 16, 4:05 pm, fx wrote:
New details on foster mother accused of murder


http://www.koaa.com/news/view.asp?ID=9079


There's new information tonight on foster mother accused of murdering a
toddler in her care. 2 Year old Alize Vick was found unconscious Tuesday
at the El Paso County home of Jules Cuneo. Cuneo was her foster mother,
who later admitted to investigators that she threw the little girl.
Alize died a day later.


The investigation into this murder now moves into Cuneo's past.
Investigators are now going through several files on Cuneo to determine
if there were any signs of abuse leading to this little girl's death.


Jules Cuneo cried as a judge advised of her of the first degree murder
charges against her on Thursday. The foster mother is accused of killing
Alize in a fit of frustration. She told sheriff's deputies that she
threw the girl. On Thursday, we spoke with Alize's biological
grandmother. She says, "I stressed concerns about the bruising on Alize
2 or 3 times."


Apparently she wasn't the only one. According to investigators, in May
while Alize was in Cuneo's care, a tape recording, allegedly of Cuneo,
was turned over to the Department of Human Services. Bureau Chief Joe
Breister works with the El Paso County Sheriff's Office.
He says, "There appears to be an incident that was called in anonymously
to the Department of Human Services."


What was on that recording is still under wraps. There were at least 4
complaints, over several years, that were filed with the Department of
Human Services. Cuneo was hired as a foster parent through Kid's
Crossing. That is a contractor with the Department of Human Services.
Barbara Drake is the director there. She says this is a tragedy that's
not being ignored. She says, "We need to sort of look at what we did,
how we responded. Are there things we can do differently, or better in
the future."


Drake says each foster parent goes through extensive training. They are
subjected to background checks. They are also tested for mental illness.
There are also caseworkers sent to check on foster families. Drake says,
"There is a requirement that case workers be in the home a minimum of
once a month. They have to see the child, interact with that child."


If Cuneo did kill Alize, with all the training, and supervision, the
question remains. Could this have been avoided? A statement was released
by the attorney for Kid's Crossing. It says, "Thank you for your inquiry
to Kid's Crossing. The hearts, and prayers of everyone at Kid's Crossing
are with this little girl. Kid's Crossing has provided, and will
continue to provide, the authorities with information, and assistance,
and a complete, and thorough investigation of this tragic event.


According to the Department of Human Services in El Paso county, this is
first time a foster parent has been accused of murdering someone in
their care in about 20 years.


CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NSA / CIA
WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....


CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.


every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...


http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf


http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com


Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS


*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*


Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5


Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that
are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per
100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse
and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the
citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold
parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY
government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and
death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more
human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which
they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that
they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when
children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a
bunch of social workers.


CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, HAPPILY DESTROYING THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT
FAMILIES YEARLY NATIONWIDE AND COMING TO YOU'RE HOME SOON...


BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY
ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...


Why was this child in foster care to begin with? Where was her mother
and father?


Their two babies were impounded last spring.
Where's Mommy & Daddy?
In jail.
Drugs!


Sherman.


Same old story, over and over and over , drugged & drunken thugs
having throw away babies. Procreating like dogs let to run loose.
Then bitching because the government screws up. If you can't , at the
very least, love your children more than getting high, don't have
them. Birth control is everywhere. The first line is the parents.Its
simple biology.


"It's not a nightmare, bitch, so wake up from yours. It's a murder
committed by the foster parent, not CPS or the biological parents or
anyone else. That's the answer. " Who is the half witted bitch
Micheal??


It was a nightmare for a couple babies who were born needing to be
loved and cared for, which for most people, parents, is instinctual,
but were squandered by their parents and for the little one who was
murdered.


I hope this foster mom fries, she needs to. So does whoever is
responsible for signing off on her and ignoring the warning signs.
I also hope other drug soaked people who are too busy getting high
hear about this and somewhere in their brains it registers.....go to
clinic.. get rubbers/pills for free. doing dope + having babies =
baaaaddddd things man, babies die.


Babies don't get having to lay around and be quiet till mommie and
daddy come down, they don't get having to go out and fine the food
they need to live cause mama spent all their money on crack. Babies
don't wait, they don't have the time.


" I for one don't give the **** what you like or not." Apparently you
do you half witted bitch.


You know, the mother is probably sitting in her jail cell right now
thinking the same exact thing. "If I didn't screw up, my kid wouldn't
have been placed into foster care and would still be alive today."
She will probably go through the rest of her life blaiming everybody
involved, including herself. But who cares about her right? It was
her own choices that brought her to that point in her life.


But at least she didn't murder anyone.


I'm not trying to justify her actions in any way, we do dig our own
holes. But in this case, the punnishment for whatever she did is a
little extreme, so have a little sympathy.


I'll pass, just like she did on caring for the baby and keeping her
out of foster care in the first place, but hey, thanks for the tip.
She could make her "pain" work for good and speak to other young women
who are started down a road like she choose to travel, get them to
realize that getting high and recreationally giving birth to little
completely dependant human beings is not a good idea, maybe then I'll
show her a little more compassion then she did her own flesh and blood.


Furthermore.... you do understand that the window we humans have to
nurture and protect our own babies is relatively small right?? 18
years.. Such a small sacrifice to grow healthy, caring and productive
citizens. Our prisons are chuck full of folks whose parents made the
same mistakes. And their children are busy filling all the new bigger
prisons.
All the compassion you can muster won't do a dam thing to change the
cycle.

With out getting into any details... a boy I know, hes about 15 now,
was passed over by his parents for drugs and drinking. He calls me now
from time to time, he never says anything, just sobs. I try not to sob
with him, I say" I know honey". After several minutes he hangs up and
I am left with the rage you see me display here at times.

You don't know me.

  #10  
Old October 17th 07, 08:35 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents
Greegor
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Posts: 4,243
Default New details on parents of murdered child

On Oct 17, 5:09 am, "Sherman" wrote:
"dragonsgirl" wrote in message

et...







"fx" wrote in message
. ..
New details on foster mother accused of murder


http://www.koaa.com/news/view.asp?ID=9079


There's new information tonight on foster mother accused of murdering a
toddler in her care. 2 Year old Alize Vick was found unconscious Tuesday
at the El Paso County home of Jules Cuneo. Cuneo was her foster mother,
who later admitted to investigators that she threw the little girl. Alize
died a day later.


The investigation into this murder now moves into Cuneo's past.
Investigators are now going through several files on Cuneo to determine
if there were any signs of abuse leading to this little girl's death.


Jules Cuneo cried as a judge advised of her of the first degree murder
charges against her on Thursday. The foster mother is accused of killing
Alize in a fit of frustration. She told sheriff's deputies that she threw
the girl. On Thursday, we spoke with Alize's biological grandmother. She
says, "I stressed concerns about the bruising on Alize 2 or 3 times."


Apparently she wasn't the only one. According to investigators, in May
while Alize was in Cuneo's care, a tape recording, allegedly of Cuneo,
was turned over to the Department of Human Services. Bureau Chief Joe
Breister works with the El Paso County Sheriff's Office.
He says, "There appears to be an incident that was called in anonymously
to the Department of Human Services."


What was on that recording is still under wraps. There were at least 4
complaints, over several years, that were filed with the Department of
Human Services. Cuneo was


*hired*


as a foster parent through Kid's
Crossing. That is a contractor with the Department of Human Services.
Barbara Drake is the director there. She says this is a tragedy that's
not being ignored. She says,


*"We need to sort of look at what we did,
how we responded. Are there things we can do differently, or better in
the future."*


Drake says each foster parent goes through extensive training. They are
subjected to background checks. They are also tested for mental illness.
There are also caseworkers sent to check on foster families. Drake says,
"There is a requirement that case workers be in the home a minimum of
once a month. They have to see the child, interact with that child."


*If Cuneo did kill Alize,*


with all the training, and supervision, the
question remains.


*Could this have been avoided?*


A statement was released
by the attorney for Kid's Crossing. It says, "Thank you for your inquiry
to Kid's Crossing. The hearts, and prayers of everyone at Kid's Crossing
are with this little girl. Kid's Crossing has provided, and will continue
to provide, the authorities with information, and assistance, and a
complete, and thorough investigation of this tragic event.


According to the Department of Human Services in El Paso county, this is
first time a foster parent has been accused of murdering someone in their
care in about 20 years.


Her mommy is in jail on drug charges. Both of her babies had been removed
and placed in foster care with mammoth foster mommy. Sherman

More information below:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...ml?rss=den&psp...
Heil said the children's parents, 20-year-old Ashley Lindenberger and
22-year-old Christopher Vick, are in jail. Heil said Lindenberger is being
held on drug charges. Vick is serving six months for assault, according to
jail records.


"Mammoth" SheRman? Don't they exclude fosters who are mammoth?

The Dad's only gone for 6 months for assault?

Did he assault the caseworkers?


 




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