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[ MenZB vaccine NZ] Medical License Breached
[back] MeNZB vaccine (meningococcal)
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/medical_..._breached.html Medical License Breached Monday, 28 July 2008, 11:45 am Press Release: Ron Law http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/GE0807/S00141.htm Medical License Breached Media Release Ron Law Risk & Policy Analyst "The Minister of Health needs to explain to the public why the Ministry of Health deliberately withheld information from parents that was a condition of the license of the experimental drug, MeNZB," says risk & policy analyst Ron Law. Documents received under the Official Information Act show that on August 3 2004, the Ministry of Health's Director of the MeNZB campaign was advised, in writing, (see attachment) that a condition of the MeNZB license required the consent form to be amended to include the fact that the Minister's own expert advisory committee was so concerned about the lack of efficacy information relating the the experimental drug, MeNZB, that a condition of the license to use MeZNB was that parents were advised of that concern. Can the Minister please explain to the parents of New Zealand children why Dr O'Hallahan ignored that important condition of the license? Can the Minister also explain upon what basis one of Chiron's own researchers, Dr Stewart Reid, writing in his capacity as a GP and an "Advisor to the Meningococcal Vaccine Strategy," wrote a document (see attachment) that was contrary to the findings of the Minister's own committee (which he took part in) when he reassured health professionals, "Key Message: The MeNZB vaccine targets the epidemic strain of meningococcal disease in New Zealand and offers a high level of protection against the epidemic strain that is expected to last for several years."... and "In summary - The MeNZB vaccine targets the epidemic strain of meningococcal disease in New Zealand and offers a high level of protection against the epidemic strain that is expected to last for several years.?" Attached: Medsafe_Instruction_to_MOH_re_efficacy___3_Aug_200 4.pdf |
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[ MenZB vaccine NZ] Medical License Breached
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:46:07 +0100, "JOHN" wrote:
Ron Law Risk & Policy Analyst Would this self appointed "Risk & Policy Analyst" of "Juderon Associates" and "Beyond Alternative Solutions" be the same Ron Law, a food supplement lobbyist, business management lecturer, and ex-Director of the NZ "Nutritional Foods Association" who is also an anti-vaccination campaigner and is railing against his "supplements" being subject to quality control and proven efficacy standards? (What is a non-nutritional food - McDonalds?) |
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[ MenZB vaccine NZ] Medical License Breached
Peter Parry wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:46:07 +0100, "JOHN" wrote: Ron Law Risk & Policy Analyst Would this self appointed "Risk & Policy Analyst" of "Juderon Associates" and "Beyond Alternative Solutions" be the same Ron Law, a food supplement lobbyist, business management lecturer, and ex-Director of the NZ "Nutritional Foods Association" who is also an anti-vaccination campaigner and is railing against his "supplements" being subject to quality control and proven efficacy standards? (What is a non-nutritional food - McDonalds?) Is it the best argument you can make - to divert attention from the message to the messenger and attack the messenger? He could be a child rapist but the referenced document indeed shows that there was a concern about vaccine efficacy, and that one of the conditions for the vaccine approval was: "Informed consent forms be provided to person about to be vaccinated (or parent/guardian in the case of children under the age of 15 years). These forms clearly identify concerns about efficacy." http://img.scoop.co.nz/media/pdfs/08...Aug_200 4.pdf |
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[ MenZB vaccine NZ] Medical License Breached
"Mike" wrote in message news:4Nujk.276$iM5.107@trnddc07... Peter Parry wrote: Is it the best argument you can make - to divert attention from the message to the messenger and attack the messenger? All these quackpopts have in the way of argument, Parry seems to specialise in it |
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[ MenZB vaccine NZ] Medical License Breached
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:56:16 GMT, Mike wrote:
Peter Parry wrote: Is it the best argument you can make - to divert attention from the message to the messenger and attack the messenger? By the messenger I presume you mean Ron Law rather than John? John has a habit of trying to imply his quotations are made by people with rather better qualifications than they actually posses and Law is somewhat more than an unbiased messenger as the two references made by John simply refer to articles written by Ron Law. Laws claims also appear to be misleading if not completely false. He could be a child rapist but the referenced document indeed shows that there was a concern about vaccine efficacy, and that one of the conditions for the vaccine approval was: That letter does not impose a condition and appears to have been taken out of context. The VSC met on the 5th Apr 2004 http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/hot/paper...s05apr2004.htm Those minutes record:- "That the application for Meningococcal B (MeNZB) vaccine be approved... approval is subject to the following [extract]: That a patient information sheet is to be reviewed by the VSC, as the information should indicate that this vaccine cannot guarantee protection as it is not effective against all serotypes of Meningococcus. Apr 06.2004 After email discussion among the VSC members it was decided that Medsafe should not be involved in deciding what is or is not required for informed consent, as this is outside the VSC jurisdiction and it is more appropriate for the ethics committees. However, it was recommend that the VSC should flag that in their opinion informed consent should be obtained and leave the detail for an ethics committee who would consider the consent form for vaccination in schools." A consent form was subsequently produced. Their report was considered by the Medicines Assessment Advisory Committee Meeting on the 6th Apr 2004 http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/hot/paper...06July2004.htm Their minutes record :- "The Chairman advised the Committee that the object was to decide if there was sufficient evidence to confirm the Vaccine Sub-Committee recommendation for approval under Section 23 of the Medicines Act 1981. The Chairman noted that the quality and manufacturing data (Module 3, with Module 2 summaries) relating to the Meningococcal B vaccine (MeNZB) produced by Chiron S.r.L. have been assessed by the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Authority (MHRA) and discussed with the National Institute of Biological Standards and Control UK (NIBSC). Clinical data have been discussed by the VSC on 5 April 2004 and a recommendation made that the data supported provisional consent subject to satisfactory manufacturing and quality data." "The Committee discussed the current levels of disease in the Auckland region and noted that the benefits of the vaccine appear to be clear when viewed in this context." "The Committee raised the question of informed consent and the Chairman confirmed that this is not a regulatory issue." So it appears that the claim Law is making is not true, no such condition as he claims was attached to the licence and the licence was not breached. "The committee recommended section 23 approval for the Meningococcal B Vaccine and agreed that the benefits out weighed the risks. " One would have thought a "Risk and Policy Analyst" would understand risk/benefit calculations. The full timeline for approval is on the Medsafe website at http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/hot/paper...enzb/menzb.asp the Medsafe data sheet for MeNZB is at http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/Profs/Dat...m/MeNZBvac.htm |
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