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toypup wrote: "-L." wrote in message ups.com... Less stupid because it isn't addictive like cigs are. Plus there are benefits (IMO) to smoking pot in that it is a mind-altering experience. I don't consider a mind-altering experience to be a benefit. I do. It expands your reality. Have you ever smoked pot or done drugs? It is still filthy and gross, though not as filthy and gross as cigs because in general, people don't use it as often so the concentration of pollutants is smaller. Maybe they'd use it more, if it were legal. Doubtful, if it would remain as expensive as it is now. -L. |
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Caledonia wrote: I'm with you that it's a gross habit -- and in the context of responding to a toddler's questions, I think that there's a need to be clear about it. Smoking is a filthy habit. For an explanation for a 2-year old, it works for me. We just talk about how stinky it is, when we have to walk throughj the inevitable cloud of smoke to enter a store. For an older kid, I can't quite abide saying that there's nothing worse than smoking, though, and would see the need to distinguish for my kids personal attributes from personal actions, if that makes any sense. The 'shades of grey' distinctions, in my opinion, are the tricky parts to convey to kids. (In the context of doing drugs -- as I view nicotine to be a drug -- not everyone who does drugs is bad, and not everyone who is bad does drugs. It's a hard one for even a 7-year old to grasp, and we're still working on it.) Agreed. I did every drug on the black market except herion. So I have a lot of personal experience to draw upon. I plan to focus on the damage it can do in your life, and how people who choose to do drugs often choose to make other poor choices because of the drugs. I just see it as a "I'll cross that bridge when I get to it" type of discussion to have - answering questions honestly and openly. My best friend, who I have known since the first day of first grade has a daughter who is 22. My friend and I did the same drugs and have the same experiences. She's managed to raise her daughter well, the only thing the kid has done so far is smoked a little pot (the daughter is extremely open with her Mom), which as far as I'm concerned is a pretty good outcome. Her daughter's in graduate school now, pulling all "A"s, so I think my friend did ok in raising her. I hope to follow her lead, and I have her as a resource, so I'm lucky. -L. |
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On 22 Oct 2006 00:56:16 -0700, "-L." wrote:
I's rather my kids smoke pot than smoke cigs, yes. Both are filthy, but cigs are more addicitve. I'd rather my kid somke pot than drink alcohol for the same reason. Plus, people get stupid on alcohol - on pot they just mellow out and lose ambition to do anything. -L. http://www.brown.edu/Student_Service.../marijuana.htm Are there short-term dangers of smoking marijuana? Discomforts associated with smoking marijuana include dry mouth, dry eyes, increased heart rate and visible signs of intoxication such as bloodshot eyes and puffy eyelids. Other problems include: Impaired memory and ability to learn Difficulty thinking and problem solving Anxiety attacks or feelings of paranoia Impaired muscle coordination and judgment Increased susceptibility to infections Dangerous impairment of driving skills. Studies show that it impairs braking time, attention to traffic signals and other driving behaviors. Cardiac problems for people with heart disease or high blood pressure, because marijuana increases the heart rate It is virtually impossible to overdose from marijuana, which sets it apart from most drugs. Are there long-term consequences to smoking marijuana? Respiratory problems Someone who smokes marijuana regularly can have many of the same respiratory problems as cigarette smokers. Persistent coughing, symptoms of bronchitis and more frequent chest colds are possible symptoms. There are over 400 chemicals that have been found in marijuana smoke. Benzyprene, a known human carcinogen, is present in marijuana smoke. Regardless of the THC content, the amount of tar inhaled by marijuana smokers and the level of carbon monoxide are 3 to 5 times higher than in cigarette smoke. This is most likely due to inhaling marijuana more deeply, holding the smoke in the lungs and because marijuana smoke is unfiltered. Memory and learning Recent research shows that regular marijuana use compromises the ability to learn and to remember information by impairing the ability to focus, sustain, and shift attention. One study also found that long-term use reduces the ability to organize and integrate complex information. In addition, marijuana impairs short-term memory and decreases motivation to accomplish tasks, even after the high is over. In one study, even small doses impaired the ability to recall words from a list seen 20 minutes earlier. Fertility Long-term marijuana use suppresses the production of hormones that help regulate the reproductive system. For men, this can cause decreased sperm counts and very heavy users can experience erectile dysfunction. Women may experience irregular periods from heavy marijuana use. These problems would most likely result in a decreased ability to conceive but not lead to complete infertility. Is marijuana addictive? No one would argue that marijuana is as addictive as alcohol or cocaine. However, it's wrong to say that it is not at all addictive. More and more studies are finding that marijuana has addictive properties. Both animal and human studies show physical and psychological withdrawal symptoms from marijuana, including irritability, restlessness, insomnia, nausea and intense dreams. Tolerance to marijuana also builds up rapidly. Heavy users need 8 times higher doses to get the same effects as infrequent users. For a small percentage of people who use it, marijuana can be highly addictive. It is estimated that 10% to 14% of users will become heavily dependent. More than 120,000 people in the US seek treatment for marijuana addiction every year. Because the consequences of marijuana use can be subtle and insidious, it is more difficult to recognize signs of addiction. Cultural and societal beliefs that marijuana cannot be addictive make it less likely for people to seek help or to get support for quitting. |
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Your mom is older. The younger people who smoke did so well after the health risks were well-known and it was not recommended by a health professional. I would consider it superior of my children to resist temptation to follow their smoking peers. They would not be addicted if they never try it, if they never succumb to peer pressure. Those who start now are just not smart enough to listen to the health warnings. Even as a kid, I was offered a cigarette and I knew to refuse because it was bad for me. But is that really how you would want your very young child to view life. That they are superior due to resisting of a temtation? Sure, if a child resists, they are much better off and yes, it is a bad choice that too many young (much too young) children make. My thought though, is that I do not want my child to feel superior to anyone. People are People. Everyone has the potential to be an amazing PERSON! I know many smokers who are better people than most and VERY "smart" to boot. I think it is only appropriate to inform children that the choice they made was not very smart, good, or healthy. I also think that it is OK to tell children that they should not be around people WHEN they are smoking as the smoke is not healthy for thier lungs. But to allow a child so young to believe that they are better or smarter than anyone else based on just one choice that they made is even less healthy than any other behavior. |
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"-L." wrote in message oups.com... toypup wrote: "-L." wrote in message ups.com... Less stupid because it isn't addictive like cigs are. Plus there are benefits (IMO) to smoking pot in that it is a mind-altering experience. I don't consider a mind-altering experience to be a benefit. I do. It expands your reality. Have you ever smoked pot or done drugs? No. And I would never want to start. Same attitude I'd like for my kids. It is still filthy and gross, though not as filthy and gross as cigs because in general, people don't use it as often so the concentration of pollutants is smaller. Maybe they'd use it more, if it were legal. Doubtful, if it would remain as expensive as it is now. If it were legal, it would undoubtably become cheaper. |
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"jaime" wrote in message oups.com... Your mom is older. The younger people who smoke did so well after the health risks were well-known and it was not recommended by a health professional. I would consider it superior of my children to resist temptation to follow their smoking peers. They would not be addicted if they never try it, if they never succumb to peer pressure. Those who start now are just not smart enough to listen to the health warnings. Even as a kid, I was offered a cigarette and I knew to refuse because it was bad for me. But is that really how you would want your very young child to view life. That they are superior due to resisting of a temtation? Sure, if a child resists, they are much better off and yes, it is a bad choice that too many young (much too young) children make. My thought though, is that I do not want my child to feel superior to anyone. People are People. Everyone has the potential to be an amazing PERSON! I know many smokers who are better people than most and VERY "smart" to boot. I do not want my kids to walk around with their noses in the air. I do think it is superior of them if they could resist temptation. That is just one choice, but it is a superior choice. However, it is just one choice, so they are not superior beings, they made a superior choice. I would be proud of them if they could do that and I would have done a small part of my job well. I think it is only appropriate to inform children that the choice they made was not very smart, good, or healthy. I also think that it is OK to tell children that they should not be around people WHEN they are smoking as the smoke is not healthy for thier lungs. But to allow a child so young to believe that they are better or smarter than anyone else based on just one choice that they made is even less healthy than any other behavior. People tend to make friends who are similar to themselves. If they smoke, many of their friends probably smoke. If they don't smoke their friends would most likely not smoke. Yes, there are exceptions, but the old "birds of a feather" adage is true. My friends don't smoke nor drink nor swear and neither do I. In my reality, no one does that; just like in a druggie's reality, everyone does drugs. There was a kid on a talk show once who said everyone goes to jail at least once in their lives. That was her reality, the peope she surrounded herself with. I hope my kids' friends don't smoke. Of course, when I was a kid, my circle of friends for a short time did smoke, drink, have sex, and did drugs. I never tried any of it, but they never became close friends. |
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toypup wrote: No. And I would never want to start. Same attitude I'd like for my kids. You really need to smoke some pot. You and a few other people around here... It is still filthy and gross, though not as filthy and gross as cigs because in general, people don't use it as often so the concentration of pollutants is smaller. Maybe they'd use it more, if it were legal. Doubtful, if it would remain as expensive as it is now. If it were legal, it would undoubtably become cheaper. Unlikely, as the state and federal government would start taking their share as well. It's the #1 cash crop in Hawaii, Oregon and Washington, at least, and the #1 import from Mexico. The feds are missing out on a ****load of tax bennies by not legalizing it. -L. |
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"toypup" ) writes:
"sscreen" wrote in message ups.com... I had a similar experience with a child saying something about smoking that was misinformed and made me angry. This was before I ever started the habit, and still believed I would never smoke. A few children saw my dad and one of my sisters standing outside smoking. They started yelling that they were "doing drugs". This sort of statement is true in a vague generalized sort of way, but not true in that most people don't think of smoking cigarettes when they hear someone is "doing drugs". I do consider smoking and drinking to be "doing drugs," though I understand most people don't. They just happen to be legal drugs. I suppose if they made marijuana legal, people may not consider that a drug, either. I consider coffee to be essentially a drug, too. |
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"sscreen" ) writes:
If someone is dressed nicely, clean, smells nice, wears nice clean clothes, then "gross" and "filthy" do not even cross my mind, even if I see them holding a cigarette. What if you try to kiss them? |
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