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Man wrongly convicted now owes $38,000 in back child support
"teachrmama" wrote in message ... "Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "teachrmama" wrote in message ... "Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "teachrmama" wrote in message ... I notice that you did not respond to my answer to your question. I can only assume that it did not come through to your server, so I am reposting it for you: Moon: Of course, if you REALLY want to get down to picayune semantics, he shouldn't have been in jail. Therefore, he should have been continuing to support his children. So, who would you like to blame for that one? TM: I actually, have not been blaming people, Moon. I have been saying that it is outrageous that he has been hit with such a huge arrearage. I think everyone involved should show compassion and remove this debt from him by whatever means available. He has endured enough. Would you, in a similar circumstance, demand that money? Moon: I don't know. I DO know, however, that you don't show the same compassion for an alcoholic woman (keeping in mind that alcoholism is a desease found in the physician's guide) who is unable to support her family :-) It cuts both ways, Teach - even though you may not like it. TM: Are you saying that choosing to drink even though you know that taking that first drink will cause a flare-ip of your disease is the same as being sent to prison for a crime you didn't commit? Alcoholism can be controlled--just don't drink. It's a disease - a really ****ty one. I didn't say it was the same as being jailed, except that both can land a person in a position where they are unable to support their families. Diabetes is a disease--a really ****ty one. But millions of people control it by proper diest, exercise, use of insulin, etc. They do not use it as an excuse to avoid their responsibilities. High blood pressure is a disease--a really ****ty one. But millions of people deal with it by diet, exercise, proper diet and medication. They do not use it as an excuse to avoid their responsibilities. Perhaps alcoholism, too, is a disease. But millions of people control it by not drinking (one day at a time). They do not use it as an excuse to avoid their responsibilities. Being in jail for a crime you did not commit is not a disease, and cannot be controlled by the person who experiences it. They are unable to meet what would be their responsibilities were they not unfairly incarcerated. And, Moon, there is a huge difference between being unable to support your family (such as being locked up in jail) and being unwilling to do so, knowing that if you don't haul your butt out of bed and go to work, someone else will step in and provide for both you and the children you bring into the world. A huge difference. One is out of your control--and one is choice. I'm not sure I necessarily agree with you on that last one. What part do you disagree with? The part about a mother who refuses to haul her butt out of bed because she knows she and her children will be supported any way? I disagree that you can claim to know someone else's motivations. Ah, but I notice you don't disagree with the fact that, if she doesn't haul her butt out of bed, she and her children will be cared for anyway. I don't know that for fact - actually, all anyone has is your statement that this is so. Or the part about the person locked up in jail being unable to support his family? Or the part about taking that first drink being a choice? Most certainly I disagree with this part. That first drink can be a trigger to the disease - one that they may well not have known they were going to suffer from. Not the first drink they ever took!! The first drink each and every time they go on a bender! Do you think that once an alcoholic drinks they are incapable ever after of refraining from drinking? If so, you are very, very wrong! There are millions of alcoholics who refrain from drinking one day at a time! Just as other diseases can be kept under control by following certain regimens, so, also, can alcoholism. There are drinking alcoholics and alcoholics who have made the choice to stop drinking. Many, many of them have been sober for years--even decades. The fact that they have the disease of alcoholism does not stop them from holding jobs, supporting their families and living life sober. Having the disease may not be a choice--but drinking *is* a choice. Well, then I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. |
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