From the "No duh!" files - Has bias pendulum swung against men?

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Monday, February 20, 2006

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As for health care, you hit the nail on the head. Why women, who
already way
outlive men, get the lion's share of health care escapes me.

Maybe, at least in part, because men don't take responsibility for their
own health care, and go see the doctor when needed?

Unless it's to get viagra, or cialis, or whatever other erection-helpers
there are now.

Interesting priorities.

More likely Moonie, it's because of the constant, incessant whining and
complaining from self-centered, egotistical little bitches (like the
one's at N.O.W., for example) that keep the spotlight directly on their
so-called "problems"

They have erectile dysfunction?

Penis envy.

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As for health care, you hit the nail on the head. Why women, who
already way
outlive men, get the lion's share of health care escapes me.

Maybe, at least in part, because men don't take responsibility for
their own health care, and go see the doctor when needed?

Unless it's to get viagra, or cialis, or whatever other
erection-helpers there are now.

Interesting priorities.

And you claim to not be sexist.
"In part", women are the same, perhaps worse but to promote your version
of sexism, you failed to mention that. You also failed to mention that
in a *large* part, women are quick to waste medical resources because
they tend to seek medical attention where none is needed.
Have you ever considered seeing a professional to discover why you hate
men or is it just too comfortable to blame all ills on men?

Phil #3

Oddly enough, in what she says, Moonstruck has a tiny part of the
answer to this question right. There IS evidence that men endanger their
health by being unwilling to go for checkups. Remedying this reluctance
is part of what responsible groups like the Men's Health Network are
about. However, Moonstruck's nasty comments about Viagra are only
another indication of her hatred of men.

That would be incorrect. I don't hate men. I found it mildly amusing
that so many insurances, in the past, wouldn't pay for birth control
pills, but would pay for erection pills, however

That's because a great many insurance companies once held the belief that
procreation was a good thing. That is, it was until the radfems got on the
band wagon and told everyone that being a mother was a terrible injustice to
society.

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Monday, February 20, 2006

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As for health care, you hit the nail on the head. Why women, who
already way
outlive men, get the lion's share of health care escapes me.

Maybe, at least in part, because men don't take responsibility for their
own health care, and go see the doctor when needed?

Unless it's to get viagra, or cialis, or whatever other erection-helpers
there are now.

Interesting priorities.

And you claim to not be sexist.
"In part", women are the same, perhaps worse but to promote your version
of sexism, you failed to mention that. You also failed to mention that in
a *large* part, women are quick to waste medical resources because they
tend to seek medical attention where none is needed.
Have you ever considered seeing a professional to discover why you hate
men or is it just too comfortable to blame all ills on men?

I blamed no ills on anyone - simply proposed a "maybe".

If men want more health care, why don't they just go get it? How did it
become the women's fault that men don't seek and obtain their own
healthcare?

And what's your excuse for not having "gotten it" yet? You've had plenty of
opportunity to get it, but refuse to. Is there something blocking your way?

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Monday, February 20, 2006

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As for health care, you hit the nail on the head. Why women, who already way
outlive men, get the lion's share of health care escapes me.

Maybe, at least in part, because men don't take responsibility for their own health care, and go see the doctor
when needed?

Unless it's to get viagra, or cialis, or whatever other erection-helpers there are now.

Interesting priorities.

And you claim to not be sexist.
"In part", women are the same, perhaps worse but to promote your version of sexism, you failed to mention that. You
also failed to mention that in a *large* part, women are quick to waste medical resources because they tend to seek
medical attention where none is needed.
Have you ever considered seeing a professional to discover why you hate men or is it just too comfortable to blame
all ills on men?

I blamed no ills on anyone - simply proposed a "maybe".

If men want more health care, why don't they just go get it? How did it become the women's fault that men don't seek
and obtain their own healthcare?

And what's your excuse for not having "gotten it" yet? You've had plenty of opportunity to get it, but refuse to. Is
there something blocking your way?

Ya know, Dusty - I just read your last 3 posts, all in response to my posts, and all slamming women in general, and me
in particular. Did you have anything constructive to say, or are you just posting to vent your spleen on women in
general, and me in particular?

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Monday, February 20, 2006

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As for health care, you hit the nail on the head. Why women, who
already way
outlive men, get the lion's share of health care escapes me.

Maybe, at least in part, because men don't take responsibility for
their own health care, and go see the doctor when
needed?

Unless it's to get viagra, or cialis, or whatever other
erection-helpers there are now.

Interesting priorities.

And you claim to not be sexist.
"In part", women are the same, perhaps worse but to promote your
version of sexism, you failed to mention that. You
also failed to mention that in a *large* part, women are quick to waste
medical resources because they tend to seek
medical attention where none is needed.
Have you ever considered seeing a professional to discover why you hate
men or is it just too comfortable to blame
all ills on men?

Phil #3

Oddly enough, in what she says, Moonstruck has a tiny part of the
answer to this question right. There IS evidence
that men endanger their health by being unwilling to go for checkups.
Remedying this reluctance is part of what
responsible groups like the Men's Health Network are about. However,
Moonstruck's nasty comments about Viagra are
only another indication of her hatred of men.

That would be incorrect. I don't hate men. I found it mildly amusing
that so many insurances, in the past, wouldn't
pay for birth control pills, but would pay for erection pills, however

This is a false choice. It compares drugs for preventing pregnancies to
drugs that facilitate sexual activity. The insurance companies are
concerned about equality arguments and how they treat both genders. They
classify birth control pills as birth control and don't cover male or female
birth control options. Your argument tries to reclassify birth control
pills from their intended use to a female sexual activity facilitator so
they can be directly compared to ED drugs.

A better comparison would be to compare ED drugs to female menopausal drug
therapy. Both drugs do the same thing - help both genders adjust to changes
in life and facilitate ongoing sexual activity. The true female counterpart
to male ED pills is covered by insurance.

BTW - If a woman can get her doctor to state birth control pills are
prescribed for a reason other than birth control, the insurance companies
will cover them.

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Monday, February 20, 2006

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As for health care, you hit the nail on the head. Why women, who
already way
outlive men, get the lion's share of health care escapes me.

Maybe, at least in part, because men don't take responsibility for
their own health care, and go see the doctor when
needed?

Unless it's to get viagra, or cialis, or whatever other
erection-helpers there are now.

Interesting priorities.

And you claim to not be sexist.
"In part", women are the same, perhaps worse but to promote your
version of sexism, you failed to mention that. You
also failed to mention that in a *large* part, women are quick to waste
medical resources because they tend to seek
medical attention where none is needed.
Have you ever considered seeing a professional to discover why you hate
men or is it just too comfortable to blame
all ills on men?

Phil #3

Oddly enough, in what she says, Moonstruck has a tiny part of the
answer to this question right. There IS evidence
that men endanger their health by being unwilling to go for checkups.
Remedying this reluctance is part of what
responsible groups like the Men's Health Network are about. However,
Moonstruck's nasty comments about Viagra are
only another indication of her hatred of men.

That would be incorrect. I don't hate men. I found it mildly amusing
that so many insurances, in the past, wouldn't
pay for birth control pills, but would pay for erection pills, however

This is a false choice.

It wasn't any sort of choice at all - it was simply reality.

It compares drugs for preventing pregnancies to
drugs that facilitate sexual activity. The insurance companies are
concerned about equality arguments and how they treat both genders. They
classify birth control pills as birth control and don't cover male or female
birth control options. Your argument tries to reclassify birth control
pills from their intended use to a female sexual activity facilitator so
they can be directly compared to ED drugs.

I didn't try to reclassify anything - merely commented on what was the reality.


A better comparison would be to compare ED drugs to female menopausal drug
therapy. Both drugs do the same thing - help both genders adjust to changes
in life and facilitate ongoing sexual activity. The true female counterpart
to male ED pills is covered by insurance.

BTW - If a woman can get her doctor to state birth control pills are
prescribed for a reason other than birth control, the insurance companies
will cover them.

BTW - at this point in time, far more insurance programs cover BC pills for their intended purpose, too.

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Monday, February 20, 2006

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As for health care, you hit the nail on the head. Why women, who
already way
outlive men, get the lion's share of health care escapes me.

Maybe, at least in part, because men don't take responsibility for
their own health care, and go see the doctor when
needed?

Unless it's to get viagra, or cialis, or whatever other
erection-helpers there are now.

Interesting priorities.

And you claim to not be sexist.
"In part", women are the same, perhaps worse but to promote your
version of sexism, you failed to mention that. You
also failed to mention that in a *large* part, women are quick to
waste
medical resources because they tend to seek
medical attention where none is needed.
Have you ever considered seeing a professional to discover why you
hate
men or is it just too comfortable to blame
all ills on men?

Phil #3

Oddly enough, in what she says, Moonstruck has a tiny part of the
answer to this question right. There IS evidence
that men endanger their health by being unwilling to go for checkups.
Remedying this reluctance is part of what
responsible groups like the Men's Health Network are about. However,
Moonstruck's nasty comments about Viagra are
only another indication of her hatred of men.

That would be incorrect. I don't hate men. I found it mildly amusing
that so many insurances, in the past, wouldn't
pay for birth control pills, but would pay for erection pills, however

This is a false choice.

It wasn't any sort of choice at all - it was simply reality.

It compares drugs for preventing pregnancies to
drugs that facilitate sexual activity. The insurance companies are
concerned about equality arguments and how they treat both genders. They
classify birth control pills as birth control and don't cover male or
female
birth control options. Your argument tries to reclassify birth control
pills from their intended use to a female sexual activity facilitator so
they can be directly compared to ED drugs.

I didn't try to reclassify anything - merely commented on what was the
reality.


A better comparison would be to compare ED drugs to female menopausal
drug
therapy. Both drugs do the same thing - help both genders adjust to
changes
in life and facilitate ongoing sexual activity. The true female
counterpart
to male ED pills is covered by insurance.

BTW - If a woman can get her doctor to state birth control pills are
prescribed for a reason other than birth control, the insurance companies
will cover them.

BTW - at this point in time, far more insurance programs cover BC pills
for their intended purpose, too.


Take heart. I uncovered this from a couple of years ago by Carey Roberts:
"The American Heart Association has recently launched their “Go Red for
Women” educational program – which totally ignores the fact that men have a
70% higher risk of dying from heart disease than women. The Pfizer drug
company, headquartered in New York City, is the company that manufacturers –
and earns millions of dollars annually from – Viagra, which treats erectile
dysfunction (http://www.viagra.com).
But it turns out that Pfizer is also a sponsor of the sexist “Go Red for
Women” program! In other words, when you buy Viagra, the profits are turned
around to support a gender-biased program at the American Heart Association.
There’s something wrong with this picture."
So it works out for women's advantage ... again.
Phil #3

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As for health care, you hit the nail on the head. Why women, who
already way
outlive men, get the lion's share of health care escapes me.

Maybe, at least in part, because men don't take responsibility for
their own health care, and go see the doctor when needed?

Unless it's to get viagra, or cialis, or whatever other
erection-helpers there are now.

Interesting priorities.

And you claim to not be sexist.
"In part", women are the same, perhaps worse but to promote your
version of sexism, you failed to mention that. You also failed to
mention that in a *large* part, women are quick to waste medical
resources because they tend to seek medical attention where none is
needed.
Have you ever considered seeing a professional to discover why you hate
men or is it just too comfortable to blame all ills on men?

I blamed no ills on anyone - simply proposed a "maybe".

If men want more health care, why don't they just go get it? How did it
become the women's fault that men don't seek and obtain their own
healthcare?

And what's your excuse for not having "gotten it" yet? You've had plenty
of opportunity to get it, but refuse to. Is there something blocking
your way?

Ya know, Dusty - I just read your last 3 posts, all in response to my
posts, and all slamming women in general, and me in particular. Did you
have anything constructive to say, or are you just posting to vent your
spleen on women in general, and me in particular?

Now there's a load of crap. Other then the post to you about not "getting
it" (and no, there was nothing sexual inferred, it was about you opening
your mind instead of your mouth), I can't see where I slammed you for much
of anything. And as for targeting "women in general", you are, once again,
waaaaay off base. I slammed, quite deliberately, the radfems. I left out,
also quite deliberately, females that posses the ability of processing a
rational thought and the ability to form coherent ideas and express them
without getting emotional or paranoid.

Which is something that, quite obviously, you are both unable and unwilling
to even make an attempt at. Once again Moonie, you've been caught in
another outright lie.

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As for health care, you hit the nail on the head. Why women, who already way
outlive men, get the lion's share of health care escapes me.

Maybe, at least in part, because men don't take responsibility for their own health care, and go see the doctor
when needed?

Unless it's to get viagra, or cialis, or whatever other erection-helpers there are now.

Interesting priorities.

And you claim to not be sexist.
"In part", women are the same, perhaps worse but to promote your version of sexism, you failed to mention that.
You also failed to mention that in a *large* part, women are quick to waste medical resources because they tend to
seek medical attention where none is needed.
Have you ever considered seeing a professional to discover why you hate men or is it just too comfortable to blame
all ills on men?

I blamed no ills on anyone - simply proposed a "maybe".

If men want more health care, why don't they just go get it? How did it become the women's fault that men don't
seek and obtain their own healthcare?

And what's your excuse for not having "gotten it" yet? You've had plenty of opportunity to get it, but refuse to.
Is there something blocking your way?

Ya know, Dusty - I just read your last 3 posts, all in response to my posts, and all slamming women in general, and
me in particular. Did you have anything constructive to say, or are you just posting to vent your spleen on women in
general, and me in particular?

Now there's a load of crap. Other then the post to you about not "getting it" (and no, there was nothing sexual
inferred, it was about you opening your mind instead of your mouth), I can't see where I slammed you for much of
anything. And as for targeting "women in general", you are, once again, waaaaay off base. I slammed, quite
deliberately, the radfems. I left out, also quite deliberately, females that posses the ability of processing a
rational thought and the ability to form coherent ideas and express them without getting emotional or paranoid.

Which is something that, quite obviously, you are both unable and unwilling to even make an attempt at. Once again
Moonie, you've been caught in another outright lie.

Quitely clearly, you have nothing constructive to say.

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Monday, February 20, 2006


snip


As for health care, you hit the nail on the head. Why women, who already way
outlive men, get the lion's share of health care escapes me.

Maybe, at least in part, because men don't take responsibility for their own health care, and go see the doctor
when needed?

Unless it's to get viagra, or cialis, or whatever other erection-helpers there are now.

Interesting priorities.

And you claim to not be sexist.
"In part", women are the same, perhaps worse but to promote your version of sexism, you failed to mention that.
You also failed to mention that in a *large* part, women are quick to waste medical resources because they tend to
seek medical attention where none is needed.
Have you ever considered seeing a professional to discover why you hate men or is it just too comfortable to blame
all ills on men?

I blamed no ills on anyone - simply proposed a "maybe".

If men want more health care, why don't they just go get it? How did it become the women's fault that men don't
seek and obtain their own healthcare?

And what's your excuse for not having "gotten it" yet? You've had plenty of opportunity to get it, but refuse to.
Is there something blocking your way?

Ya know, Dusty - I just read your last 3 posts, all in response to my posts, and all slamming women in general, and
me in particular. Did you have anything constructive to say, or are you just posting to vent your spleen on women in
general, and me in particular?

Now there's a load of crap. Other then the post to you about not "getting it" (and no, there was nothing sexual
inferred, it was about you opening your mind instead of your mouth), I can't see where I slammed you for much of
anything. And as for targeting "women in general", you are, once again, waaaaay off base. I slammed, quite
deliberately, the radfems. I left out, also quite deliberately, females that posses the ability of processing a
rational thought and the ability to form coherent ideas and express them without getting emotional or paranoid.

Which is something that, quite obviously, you are both unable and unwilling to even make an attempt at. Once again
Moonie, you've been caught in another outright lie.


Quitely clearly, you have nothing constructive to say.

....said the yapping terrier.

- Ron ^*^