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#11
August 30th 04, 02:04 PM
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"M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-August 30, 2004" M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t wrote in message "Andrew Heenan" wrote in message ... "Peter Bowditch" wrote: I confidently predict that future "research" by anti-vaccination liars will turn up many new and unexpected ways that vaccines can damage children. There are, of course, idiots and liars on BOTH sides of the debate; just one side has more money to back theirs up. 
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August 30th 04, 02:16 PM
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"dehart" wrote in message ink.net... "M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-August 30, 2004" M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t wrote in message "Andrew Heenan" wrote in message ... "Peter Bowditch" wrote: I confidently predict that future "research" by anti-vaccination liars will turn up many new and unexpected ways that vaccines can damage children. There are, of course, idiots and liars on BOTH sides of the debate; just one side has more money to back theirs up. Intellectually dishonest snip restored: rewrite: One side has more *facts* to back up theirs. That side being the ones who abhor dead babies, the pro-vaccination people who really care.
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August 30th 04, 03:02 PM
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"dehart" wrote in message ink.net... "M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-August 30, 2004" M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t wrote in message et... "dehart" wrote in message ink.net... "M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-August 30, 2004" M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t wrote in message "Andrew Heenan" wrote in message ... "Peter Bowditch" wrote: I confidently predict that future "research" by anti-vaccination liars will turn up many new and unexpected ways that vaccines can damage children. There are, of course, idiots and liars on BOTH sides of the debate; just one side has more money to back theirs up. Intellectually dishonest snip restored: rewrite: One side has more *facts* to back up theirs. That side being the ones who abhor dead babies, the pro-vaccination people who really care.
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#15
August 30th 04, 03:11 PM
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"M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-August 30, 2004" M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t wrote in message et... "dehart" wrote in message ink.net... "M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-August 30, 2004" M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t wrote in message et... "dehart" wrote in message ink.net... "M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-August 30, 2004" M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t wrote in message "Andrew Heenan" wrote in message ... "Peter Bowditch" wrote: I confidently predict that future "research" by anti-vaccination liars will turn up many new and unexpected ways that vaccines can damage children. There are, of course, idiots and liars on BOTH sides of the debate; just one side has more money to back theirs up.
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#16
August 30th 04, 04:25 PM
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"dehart" wrote in message ink.net... Nothing. As usual, his page is blank, as is his mind.
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#17
August 31st 04, 12:46 AM
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"Andrew Heenan" wrote in message ... "Peter Bowditch" wrote: I confidently predict that future "research" by anti-vaccination liars will turn up many new and unexpected ways that vaccines can damage children. There are, of course, idiots and liars on BOTH sides of the debate; just one side has more money to back theirs up. Really? Can you show me peer-reviewed evidence that the provaccine people are wrong? Jeff
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#18
August 31st 04, 04:46 AM
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In article ,
Peter Moran wrote: "john" wrote in message ... Mail on Sunday 29 August 2004 There IS a link between the MMR jab and autism, claims new research EXCLUSIVE By Rachel Ellis, Medical Correspondent A key study repeatedly used by the Government to support the MMR vaccine was wrongly carried out and gave inaccurate results, experts claimed yesterday. The Danish research, which examined the medical records of more than half-a-million children born over eight years, concluded there was no link between children given MMR and the onset of autism. But fresh analysis of the data by four experts to be published this week in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons suggest there is a link. And a third study by Dr Andrew Wakefield, who first made the link between MMR and autism in 1998, and Dr Carol Stott of Cambridge University, shows autism cases in Denmark have increased by 14.8 per cent each year since MMR was introduced. Wakefield is now known to be employed by the parents of children with autism, and it would also mean by now that everyone in Denmark is autistic. No, but there is a bigger problem -- given that MMR was introduced over quite a short period and went from something unavailable to something used almost universally within a few years, the idea of a 14.8% compounded annual rise makes no sense at all. If MMR really caused autism, there would have been a huge spike in autism in the first few years after the vaccine was introduced, and it would have been pretty much level since then. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
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