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Old November 15th 07, 03:22 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
Mark Probert
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Default Bad news for anti-vac liars: Vaccines work

Historical Comparisons of Morbidity and Mortality for Vaccine-
Preventable Diseases in the United States
Sandra W. Roush, MT, MPH; Trudy V. Murphy, MD; and the Vaccine-
Preventable Disease Table Working Group
JAMA. 2007;298(18):2155-2163.

Context National vaccine recommendations in the United States target
an increasing number of vaccine-preventable diseases for reduction,
elimination, or eradication.

Objective To compare morbidity and mortality before and after
widespread implementation of national vaccine recommendations for 13
vaccine-preventable diseases for which recommendations were in place
prior to 2005.

Design, Setting, and Participants For the United States, prevaccine
baselines were assessed based on representative historical data from
primary sources and were compared to the most recent morbidity (2006)
and mortality (2004) data for diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus,
poliomyelitis, measles, mumps, rubella (including congenital rubella
syndrome), invasive Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib), acute
hepatitis B, hepatitis A, varicella, Streptococcus pneumoniae, and
smallpox.

Main Outcome Measures Number of cases, deaths, and hospitalizations
for 13 vaccine-preventable diseases. Estimates of the percent
reductions from baseline to recent were made without adjustment for
factors that could affect vaccine-preventable disease morbidity,
mortality, or reporting.

Results A greater than 92% decline in cases and a 99% or greater
decline in deaths due to diseases prevented by vaccines recommended
before 1980 were shown for diphtheria, mumps, pertussis, and tetanus.
Endemic transmission of poliovirus and measles and rubella viruses has
been eliminated in the United States; smallpox has been eradicated
worldwide. Declines were 80% or greater for cases and deaths of most
vaccine-preventable diseases targeted since 1980 including hepatitis
A, acute hepatitis B, Hib, and varicella. Declines in cases and deaths
of invasive S pneumoniae were 34% and 25%, respectively.

Conclusions The number of cases of most vaccine-preventable diseases
is at an all-time low; hospitalizations and deaths have also shown
striking decreases.

Author Affiliations: National Center for Immunization and Respiratory
Diseases (NCIRD); Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta,
Georgia.

November 14, 2007
Sharp Drop Seen in Deaths From Ills Fought by Vaccine
By DONALD G. McNEIL Jr.
Death rates for 13 diseases that can be prevented by childhood
vaccinations are at all-time lows in the United States, according to a
study released yesterday.

The study, by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in
Atlanta, and published in The Journal of the American Medical
Association, is the first time that the agency has searched historical
records going back to 1900 to compile estimates of cases,
hospitalizations and deaths for all the diseases children are
routinely vaccinated against.

In nine of the diseases, rates of death or hospitalization declined
more than 90 percent since vaccines against them were approved, and in
the cases of smallpox, diphtheria and polio, by 100 percent.

In only four diseases - hepatitis A and B, invasive pneumococcal
diseases and varicella (the cause of chickenpox and shingles) - did
deaths and hospitalizations fall less than 90 percent. Those vaccines
are all relatively new - the one for chickenpox, for example, was
adopted nationally only in 1995. Also, some diseases like hepatitis
typically strike adults, who are less likely to be immunized.

The results "are a testament to the fact that vaccines can drive
diseases down to near nil," said Dr. Gregory A. Poland, chief of the
vaccine research group at the Mayo Clinic.

And Dr. Robert W. Sears, an Orange County, Calif., pediatrician who
writes popular medicine books for parents, including a new one on
vaccines, said the study showed "one of the very positive aspects of
vaccination."

Public health officials are involved in a continuing struggle with
antivaccine activists who contend that children's shots trigger
autism, seizures or other serious side effects, and that private
pediatricians often cannot make time to answer all the questions
worried parents have, Dr. Sears said.

A spokesman for the disease control agency, Curtis Allen, said the
study was not done to counter groups that oppose vaccines, "but it
does show conclusively the value of vaccines."

It was in 1796 when Dr. Edward Jenner first vaccinated a boy against
smallpox by pricking his arms with pus taken from the sores of a
milkmaid with cowpox, a closely related but mild disease. Vaccines
against whooping cough were introduced in 1914, against diphtheria in
1928, against tetanus in 1933, and so on, up to the latest
introduction, seven years ago, of the pneumococcal vaccine.

The centers' study estimates the peak years for deaths from each
disease: more than 3,000 deaths from polio in 1952, for example, and
more than 7,500 from whooping cough in 1934.

But as fewer parents see children killed, scarred or brain-damaged by
diseases that were once common, "there's been a shift in who's not
getting vaccinated," said Dr. Paul A. Offit, chief of diseases at
Children's Hospital in Philadelphia and a vaccine expert.

Until the 1990s, Dr. Offit said, incomplete vaccination was most
common among poor children with no health insurance. But the Vaccines
for Children Program, created in 1994 by the Clinton administration,
helped end that. It provides vaccines free to any eligible child,
which includes 45 percent of American children, Mr. Allen said.

Now, Dr. Offit said, it is more common for children from wealthy or
middle-class families to lack some or all shots, presumably because
their parents have read about side effects or visited one of the many
antivaccine Web sites.

Most children are immunized as part of routine infant care or before
they enter day care or school, but the number of states that allow
religious or "philosophical" exemptions has increased.

Public health officials worry that those children are vulnerable to
diseases that still kill children in poor countries and occasionally
arrive from abroad.

The study showed total or near-total declines in cases of diphtheria,
measles, polio, rubella, smallpox and invasive Hib disease, a type of
pneumonia for which children are now normally vaccinated at as early
as 2 months.

In the 1930s in the United States, there were about 30,000 cases of
diphtheria annually, in which a grayish membrane clogs the airways,
killing about 10 percent of those infected. The disease virtually
never appears in the West now, but in the 1980s, when vaccination
stopped in the former Soviet Union in the chaos of its breakup, there
were 200,000 cases and 5,000 deaths, by Red Cross estimates.

In the United States, rumors of a link to autism and inflammatory
bowel disease are most commonly attached to the measles vaccine,
making it one that some parents avoid.

Refusal is much more common in Britain, and in August the national
Health Protection Agency warned that Britain was having its worst
measles outbreak in 20 years, with 480 confirmed cases and one death.
  #2  
Old November 15th 07, 04:51 AM posted to misc.health.alternative, misc.kids.health
Andy
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Default Bad news for anti-vac liars: Vaccines work

On Nov 15, 3:22�am, Mark Probert wrote:
Historical Comparisons of Morbidity and Mortality for Vaccine-
Preventable Diseases in the United States
Sandra W. Roush, MT, MPH; Trudy V. Murphy, MD; and the Vaccine-
Preventable Disease Table Working Group
JAMA. 2007;298(18):2155-2163.

Context �National vaccine recommendations in the United States target
an increasing number of vaccine-preventable diseases for reduction,
elimination, or eradication.

Objective �To compare morbidity and mortality before and after
widespread implementation of national vaccine recommendations for 13
vaccine-preventable diseases for which recommendations were in place
prior to 2005.

Design, Setting, and Participants �For the United States, prevaccine
baselines were assessed based on representative historical data from
primary sources and were compared to the most recent morbidity (2006)
and mortality (2004) data for diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus,
poliomyelitis, measles, mumps, rubella (including congenital rubella
syndrome), invasive Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib), acute
hepatitis B, hepatitis A, varicella, Streptococcus pneumoniae, and
smallpox.

Main Outcome Measures �Number of cases, deaths, and hospitalizations
for 13 vaccine-preventable diseases. Estimates of the percent
reductions from baseline to recent were made without adjustment for
factors that could affect vaccine-preventable disease morbidity,
mortality, or reporting.

Results �A greater than 92% decline in cases and a 99% or greater
decline in deaths due to diseases prevented by vaccines recommended
before 1980 were shown for diphtheria, mumps, pertussis, and tetanus.
Endemic transmission of poliovirus and measles and rubella viruses has
been eliminated in the United States; smallpox has been eradicated
worldwide. Declines were 80% or greater for cases and deaths of most
vaccine-preventable diseases targeted since 1980 including hepatitis
A, acute hepatitis B, Hib, and varicella. Declines in cases and deaths
of invasive S pneumoniae were 34% and 25%, respectively.

Conclusions �The number of cases of most vaccine-preventable diseases
is at an all-time low; hospitalizations and deaths have also shown
striking decreases.

Author Affiliations: National Center for Immunization and Respiratory
Diseases (NCIRD); Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta,
Georgia.

November 14, 2007
Sharp Drop Seen in Deaths From Ills Fought by Vaccine
By DONALD G. McNEIL Jr.
Death rates for 13 diseases that can be prevented by childhood
vaccinations are at all-time lows in the United States, according to a
study released yesterday.

The study, by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in
Atlanta, and published in The Journal of the American Medical
Association, is the first time that the agency has searched historical
records going back to 1900 to compile estimates of cases,
hospitalizations and deaths for all the diseases children are
routinely vaccinated against.

In nine of the diseases, rates of death or hospitalization declined
more than 90 percent since vaccines against them were approved, and in
the cases of smallpox, diphtheria and polio, by 100 percent.

In only four diseases - hepatitis A and B, invasive pneumococcal
diseases and varicella (the cause of chickenpox and shingles) - did
deaths and hospitalizations fall less than 90 percent. Those vaccines
are all relatively new - the one for chickenpox, for example, was
adopted nationally only in 1995. Also, some diseases like hepatitis
typically strike adults, who are less likely to be immunized.

The results "are a testament to the fact that vaccines can drive
diseases down to near nil," said Dr. Gregory A. Poland, chief of the
vaccine research group at the Mayo Clinic.

And Dr. Robert W. Sears, an Orange County, Calif., pediatrician who
writes popular medicine books for parents, including a new one on
vaccines, said the study showed "one of the very positive aspects of
vaccination."

Public health officials are involved in a continuing struggle with
antivaccine activists who contend that children's shots trigger
autism, seizures or other serious side effects, and that private
pediatricians often cannot make time to answer all the questions
worried parents have, Dr. Sears said.

A spokesman for the disease control agency, Curtis Allen, said the
study was not done to counter groups that oppose vaccines, "but it
does show conclusively the value of vaccines."

It was in 1796 when Dr. Edward Jenner first vaccinated a boy against
smallpox by pricking his arms with pus taken from the sores of a
milkmaid with cowpox, a closely related but mild disease. Vaccines
against whooping cough were introduced in 1914, against diphtheria in
1928, against tetanus in 1933, and so on, up to the latest
introduction, seven years ago, of the pneumococcal vaccine.

The centers' study estimates the peak years for deaths from each
disease: more than 3,000 deaths from polio in 1952, for example, and
more than 7,500 from whooping cough in 1934.

But as fewer parents see children killed, scarred or brain-damaged by
diseases that were once common, "there's been a shift in who's not
getting vaccinated," said Dr. Paul A. Offit, chief of diseases at
Children's Hospital in Philadelphia and a vaccine expert.

Until the 1990s, Dr. Offit said, incomplete vaccination was most
common among poor children with no health insurance. But the Vaccines
for Children Program, created in 1994 by the Clinton administration,
helped end that. It provides vaccines free to any eligible child,
which includes 45 percent of American children, Mr. Allen said.

Now, Dr. Offit said, it is more common for children from wealthy or
middle-class families to lack some or all shots, presumably because
their parents have read about side effects or visited one of the many
antivaccine Web sites.

Most children are immunized as part of routine infant care or before
they enter day care or school, but the number of states that allow
religious or "philosophical" exemptions has increased.

Public health officials worry that those children are vulnerable to
diseases that still kill children in poor countries and occasionally
arrive from abroad.

The study showed total or near-total declines in cases of diphtheria,
measles, polio, rubella, smallpox and invasive Hib disease, a type of
pneumonia for which children are now normally vaccinated at as early
as 2 months.

In the 1930s in the United States, there were about 30,000 cases of
diphtheria annually, in which a grayish membrane clogs the airways,
killing about 10 percent of those infected. The disease virtually
never appears in the West now, but in the 1980s, when vaccination
stopped in the former Soviet Union in the chaos of its breakup, there
were 200,000 cases and 5,000 deaths, by Red Cross estimates.

In the United States, rumors of a link to autism and inflammatory
bowel disease are most commonly attached to the measles vaccine,
making it one that some parents avoid.

Refusal is much more common in Britain, and in August the national
Health Protection Agency warned that Britain was having its worst
measles outbreak in 20 years, with 480 confirmed cases and one death.


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Old November 15th 07, 09:40 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
Jan Drew
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Default Bad news for anti-vac liars: Vaccines work


"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:BXO_i.14329$h61.5065@trndny02...
Historical Comparisons of Morbidity and Mortality for Vaccine-
Preventable Diseases in the United States
Sandra W. Roush, MT, MPH; Trudy V. Murphy, MD; and the Vaccine-
Preventable Disease Table Working Group
JAMA. 2007;298(18):2155-2163.


JAMA is *Organized medicine*.

Context National vaccine recommendations in the United States target
an increasing number of vaccine-preventable diseases for reduction,
elimination, or eradication.

Objective To compare morbidity and mortality before and after
widespread implementation of national vaccine recommendations for 13
vaccine-preventable diseases for which recommendations were in place
prior to 2005.

Design, Setting, and Participants For the United States, prevaccine
baselines were assessed based on representative historical data from
primary sources and were compared to the most recent morbidity (2006)
and mortality (2004) data for diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus,
poliomyelitis, measles, mumps, rubella (including congenital rubella
syndrome), invasive Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib), acute
hepatitis B, hepatitis A, varicella, Streptococcus pneumoniae, and
smallpox.

Main Outcome Measures Number of cases, deaths, and hospitalizations
for 13 vaccine-preventable diseases. Estimates of the percent
reductions from baseline to recent were made without adjustment for
factors that could affect vaccine-preventable disease morbidity,
mortality, or reporting.

Results A greater than 92% decline in cases and a 99% or greater
decline in deaths due to diseases prevented by vaccines recommended
before 1980 were shown for diphtheria, mumps, pertussis, and tetanus.
Endemic transmission of poliovirus and measles and rubella viruses has
been eliminated in the United States; smallpox has been eradicated
worldwide. Declines were 80% or greater for cases and deaths of most
vaccine-preventable diseases targeted since 1980 including hepatitis
A, acute hepatitis B, Hib, and varicella. Declines in cases and deaths
of invasive S pneumoniae were 34% and 25%, respectively.

Conclusions The number of cases of most vaccine-preventable diseases
is at an all-time low; hospitalizations and deaths have also shown
striking decreases.

Author Affiliations: National Center for Immunization and Respiratory
Diseases (NCIRD); Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta,
Georgia.

November 14, 2007
Sharp Drop Seen in Deaths From Ills Fought by Vaccine
By DONALD G. McNEIL Jr.
Death rates for 13 diseases that can be prevented by childhood
vaccinations are at all-time lows in the United States, according to a
study released yesterday.

The study, by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in
Atlanta, and published in The Journal of the American Medical
Association, is the first time that the agency has searched historical
records going back to 1900 to compile estimates of cases,
hospitalizations and deaths for all the diseases children are
routinely vaccinated against.


What great sources. The AMA and CDC.
MORE Organized medicine.

In nine of the diseases, rates of death or hospitalization declined
more than 90 percent since vaccines against them were approved, and in
the cases of smallpox, diphtheria and polio, by 100 percent.

In only four diseases - hepatitis A and B, invasive pneumococcal
diseases and varicella (the cause of chickenpox and shingles) - did
deaths and hospitalizations fall less than 90 percent. Those vaccines
are all relatively new - the one for chickenpox, for example, was
adopted nationally only in 1995. Also, some diseases like hepatitis
typically strike adults, who are less likely to be immunized.

The results "are a testament to the fact that vaccines can drive
diseases down to near nil," said Dr. Gregory A. Poland, chief of the
vaccine research group at the Mayo Clinic.

And Dr. Robert W. Sears, an Orange County, Calif., pediatrician who
writes popular medicine books for parents, including a new one on
vaccines, said the study showed "one of the very positive aspects of
vaccination."

Public health officials are involved in a continuing struggle with
antivaccine activists who contend that children's shots trigger
autism, seizures or other serious side effects, and that private
pediatricians often cannot make time to answer all the questions
worried parents have, Dr. Sears said.

A spokesman for the disease control agency, Curtis Allen, said the
study was not done to counter groups that oppose vaccines, "but it
does show conclusively the value of vaccines."

It was in 1796 when Dr. Edward Jenner first vaccinated a boy against
smallpox by pricking his arms with pus taken from the sores of a
milkmaid with cowpox, a closely related but mild disease. Vaccines
against whooping cough were introduced in 1914, against diphtheria in
1928, against tetanus in 1933, and so on, up to the latest
introduction, seven years ago, of the pneumococcal vaccine.

The centers' study estimates the peak years for deaths from each
disease: more than 3,000 deaths from polio in 1952, for example, and
more than 7,500 from whooping cough in 1934.

But as fewer parents see children killed, scarred or brain-damaged by
diseases that were once common, "there's been a shift in who's not
getting vaccinated," said Dr. Paul A. Offit, chief of diseases at
Children's Hospital in Philadelphia and a vaccine expert.

Until the 1990s, Dr. Offit said, incomplete vaccination was most
common among poor children with no health insurance. But the Vaccines
for Children Program, created in 1994 by the Clinton administration,
helped end that. It provides vaccines free to any eligible child,
which includes 45 percent of American children, Mr. Allen said.

Now, Dr. Offit said, it is more common for children from wealthy or
middle-class families to lack some or all shots, presumably because
their parents have read about side effects or visited one of the many
antivaccine Web sites.

Most children are immunized as part of routine infant care or before
they enter day care or school, but the number of states that allow
religious or "philosophical" exemptions has increased.

Public health officials worry that those children are vulnerable to
diseases that still kill children in poor countries and occasionally
arrive from abroad.

The study showed total or near-total declines in cases of diphtheria,
measles, polio, rubella, smallpox and invasive Hib disease, a type of
pneumonia for which children are now normally vaccinated at as early
as 2 months.

In the 1930s in the United States, there were about 30,000 cases of
diphtheria annually, in which a grayish membrane clogs the airways,
killing about 10 percent of those infected. The disease virtually
never appears in the West now, but in the 1980s, when vaccination
stopped in the former Soviet Union in the chaos of its breakup, there
were 200,000 cases and 5,000 deaths, by Red Cross estimates.

In the United States, rumors of a link to autism and inflammatory
bowel disease are most commonly attached to the measles vaccine,
making it one that some parents avoid.

Refusal is much more common in Britain, and in August the national
Health Protection Agency warned that Britain was having its worst
measles outbreak in 20 years, with 480 confirmed cases and one death.


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  #4  
Old November 15th 07, 12:59 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
Mark Probert
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Posts: 1,876
Default Bad news for anti-vac liars: Vaccines work

Andy wrote:
On Nov 15, 3:22�am, Mark Probert wrote:
Historical Comparisons of Morbidity and Mortality for Vaccine-
Preventable Diseases in the United States
Sandra W. Roush, MT, MPH; Trudy V. Murphy, MD; and the Vaccine-
Preventable Disease Table Working Group
JAMA. 2007;298(18):2155-2163.

Context �National vaccine recommendations in the United States target
an increasing number of vaccine-preventable diseases for reduction,
elimination, or eradication.

Objective �To compare morbidity and mortality before and after
widespread implementation of national vaccine recommendations for 13
vaccine-preventable diseases for which recommendations were in place
prior to 2005.

Design, Setting, and Participants �For the United States, prevaccine
baselines were assessed based on representative historical data from
primary sources and were compared to the most recent morbidity (2006)
and mortality (2004) data for diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus,
poliomyelitis, measles, mumps, rubella (including congenital rubella
syndrome), invasive Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib), acute
hepatitis B, hepatitis A, varicella, Streptococcus pneumoniae, and
smallpox.

Main Outcome Measures �Number of cases, deaths, and hospitalizations
for 13 vaccine-preventable diseases. Estimates of the percent
reductions from baseline to recent were made without adjustment for
factors that could affect vaccine-preventable disease morbidity,
mortality, or reporting.

Results �A greater than 92% decline in cases and a 99% or greater
decline in deaths due to diseases prevented by vaccines recommended
before 1980 were shown for diphtheria, mumps, pertussis, and tetanus.
Endemic transmission of poliovirus and measles and rubella viruses has
been eliminated in the United States; smallpox has been eradicated
worldwide. Declines were 80% or greater for cases and deaths of most
vaccine-preventable diseases targeted since 1980 including hepatitis
A, acute hepatitis B, Hib, and varicella. Declines in cases and deaths
of invasive S pneumoniae were 34% and 25%, respectively.

Conclusions �The number of cases of most vaccine-preventable diseases
is at an all-time low; hospitalizations and deaths have also shown
striking decreases.

Author Affiliations: National Center for Immunization and Respiratory
Diseases (NCIRD); Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta,
Georgia.

November 14, 2007
Sharp Drop Seen in Deaths From Ills Fought by Vaccine
By DONALD G. McNEIL Jr.
Death rates for 13 diseases that can be prevented by childhood
vaccinations are at all-time lows in the United States, according to a
study released yesterday.

The study, by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in
Atlanta, and published in The Journal of the American Medical
Association, is the first time that the agency has searched historical
records going back to 1900 to compile estimates of cases,
hospitalizations and deaths for all the diseases children are
routinely vaccinated against.

In nine of the diseases, rates of death or hospitalization declined
more than 90 percent since vaccines against them were approved, and in
the cases of smallpox, diphtheria and polio, by 100 percent.

In only four diseases - hepatitis A and B, invasive pneumococcal
diseases and varicella (the cause of chickenpox and shingles) - did
deaths and hospitalizations fall less than 90 percent. Those vaccines
are all relatively new - the one for chickenpox, for example, was
adopted nationally only in 1995. Also, some diseases like hepatitis
typically strike adults, who are less likely to be immunized.

The results "are a testament to the fact that vaccines can drive
diseases down to near nil," said Dr. Gregory A. Poland, chief of the
vaccine research group at the Mayo Clinic.

And Dr. Robert W. Sears, an Orange County, Calif., pediatrician who
writes popular medicine books for parents, including a new one on
vaccines, said the study showed "one of the very positive aspects of
vaccination."

Public health officials are involved in a continuing struggle with
antivaccine activists who contend that children's shots trigger
autism, seizures or other serious side effects, and that private
pediatricians often cannot make time to answer all the questions
worried parents have, Dr. Sears said.

A spokesman for the disease control agency, Curtis Allen, said the
study was not done to counter groups that oppose vaccines, "but it
does show conclusively the value of vaccines."

It was in 1796 when Dr. Edward Jenner first vaccinated a boy against
smallpox by pricking his arms with pus taken from the sores of a
milkmaid with cowpox, a closely related but mild disease. Vaccines
against whooping cough were introduced in 1914, against diphtheria in
1928, against tetanus in 1933, and so on, up to the latest
introduction, seven years ago, of the pneumococcal vaccine.

The centers' study estimates the peak years for deaths from each
disease: more than 3,000 deaths from polio in 1952, for example, and
more than 7,500 from whooping cough in 1934.

But as fewer parents see children killed, scarred or brain-damaged by
diseases that were once common, "there's been a shift in who's not
getting vaccinated," said Dr. Paul A. Offit, chief of diseases at
Children's Hospital in Philadelphia and a vaccine expert.

Until the 1990s, Dr. Offit said, incomplete vaccination was most
common among poor children with no health insurance. But the Vaccines
for Children Program, created in 1994 by the Clinton administration,
helped end that. It provides vaccines free to any eligible child,
which includes 45 percent of American children, Mr. Allen said.

Now, Dr. Offit said, it is more common for children from wealthy or
middle-class families to lack some or all shots, presumably because
their parents have read about side effects or visited one of the many
antivaccine Web sites.

Most children are immunized as part of routine infant care or before
they enter day care or school, but the number of states that allow
religious or "philosophical" exemptions has increased.

Public health officials worry that those children are vulnerable to
diseases that still kill children in poor countries and occasionally
arrive from abroad.

The study showed total or near-total declines in cases of diphtheria,
measles, polio, rubella, smallpox and invasive Hib disease, a type of
pneumonia for which children are now normally vaccinated at as early
as 2 months.

In the 1930s in the United States, there were about 30,000 cases of
diphtheria annually, in which a grayish membrane clogs the airways,
killing about 10 percent of those infected. The disease virtually
never appears in the West now, but in the 1980s, when vaccination
stopped in the former Soviet Union in the chaos of its breakup, there
were 200,000 cases and 5,000 deaths, by Red Cross estimates.

In the United States, rumors of a link to autism and inflammatory
bowel disease are most commonly attached to the measles vaccine,
making it one that some parents avoid.

Refusal is much more common in Britain, and in August the national
Health Protection Agency warned that Britain was having its worst
measles outbreak in 20 years, with 480 confirmed cases and one death.


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Old November 15th 07, 05:02 PM posted to misc.health.alternative, misc.kids.health
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Default Bad news for anti-vac liars: Vaccines work

On Nov 14, 10:22 pm, Mark Probert
wrote:
Historical Comparisons of Morbidity and Mortality for Vaccine-
Preventable Diseases in the United States
Sandra W. Roush, MT, MPH; Trudy V. Murphy, MD; and the Vaccine-
Preventable Disease Table Working Group
JAMA. 2007;298(18):2155-2163.

The Marked Pervert submitted the above paper.
Oviously the paycheck and prestige of these people demand that they
support vaccination. Sorta like the hardest thing to get someome to
understand is that which their paycheck require that they
misunderstand.
Had these statisticians arrived at any other conclusion, the work
would not have been released and they might well have lost their jobs.

Secondly, compare what they are saying to another well researched book
by Neil Z. Miller. You will readily see that most of these diseases
were declining prior to any vaccine useage. You will also find many
other studies coming to the same conclusion by various authors.

The science of Bechamp, Estor, Enderlein, Rosenow, Rife, Reich, and
others amply demonstrate that:
The germ theory of disease is false.
Bacteria are pleomorphic and not monomorphic
All disease is endo caused not exo caused.

Knowing this, the vaccine industry is clearly based upon fear,
superstition, gross ignorance, and propaganda.

Refusal is much more common in Britain, and in August the national
Health Protection Agency warned that Britain was having its worst
measles outbreak in 20 years, with 480 confirmed cases and one death.


Interesting comment. How many of the confirmed cases have been
vaccinated? Who was the first case and how did they contract the
disorder other than being told they have it by their doctor?

DrCee
Not a member of the medical monopoly
Not a member of the church of modern medicine
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Old November 15th 07, 09:10 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
Peter Moran[_2_]
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wrote in message
...
On Nov 14, 10:22 pm, Mark Probert
wrote:
Historical Comparisons of Morbidity and Mortality for Vaccine-
Preventable Diseases in the United States
Sandra W. Roush, MT, MPH; Trudy V. Murphy, MD; and the Vaccine-
Preventable Disease Table Working Group
JAMA. 2007;298(18):2155-2163.

The Marked Pervert submitted the above paper.
Oviously the paycheck and prestige of these people demand that they
support vaccination. Sorta like the hardest thing to get someome to
understand is that which their paycheck require that they
misunderstand.
Had these statisticians arrived at any other conclusion, the work
would not have been released and they might well have lost their jobs.


It is obscene that some still dispute the value of vaccinations. Look at
the gravestones of all the young children in any old graveyard. Talk to
those old enough to remember the polio epidemics and the hospitals full of
iron lungs. In the space of a single lifetime mortality and morbidity
from epidemic illnesses and also tetanus has plummeted.



Secondly, compare what they are saying to another well researched book
by Neil Z. Miller. You will readily see that most of these diseases
were declining prior to any vaccine useage. You will also find many
other studies coming to the same conclusion by various authors.


Mr Cee, will you explain why it is that only diseases that are vaccinated
against that have declined or disappeared in developed countries, yet we
still have the same susceptibility to colds, flu, enteric infections,
venereal infections and malaria? Why also are there so many examples of
these illnesses flaring up in unvaccinated populations, or when vaccination
rates drop?

I am serious. I want you to tell us in your own words how such situations
could have come about other than through the effect of vaccinations. You
can resort to personal abuse and even more ridiculous elaborations of the
Grand All-purpose "Alternative" Medical Conspiracy Theory if you prefer to
show how barren and biased the anti-vax understanding of the epidemiological
evidence truly is.


The science of Bechamp, Estor, Enderlein, Rosenow, Rife, Reich, and
others amply demonstrate that:
The germ theory of disease is false.
Bacteria are pleomorphic and not monomorphic
All disease is endo caused not exo caused.


Nothing there that a bit of exposure to real medicine and microbiology
couldn't fix.

PM

Knowing this, the vaccine industry is clearly based upon fear,
superstition, gross ignorance, and propaganda.

Refusal is much more common in Britain, and in August the national
Health Protection Agency warned that Britain was having its worst
measles outbreak in 20 years, with 480 confirmed cases and one death.


Interesting comment. How many of the confirmed cases have been
vaccinated? Who was the first case and how did they contract the
disorder other than being told they have it by their doctor?

DrCee
Not a member of the medical monopoly
Not a member of the church of modern medicine



  #7  
Old November 15th 07, 09:42 PM posted to misc.health.alternative, misc.kids.health
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Default Bad news for anti-vac liars: Vaccines work

On Nov 15, 4:10 pm, "Peter Moran" pmoranATinternode.on.net wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Nov 14, 10:22 pm, Mark Probert
wrote:
Historical Comparisons of Morbidity and Mortality for Vaccine-
Preventable Diseases in the United States
Sandra W. Roush, MT, MPH; Trudy V. Murphy, MD; and the Vaccine-
Preventable Disease Table Working Group
JAMA. 2007;298(18):2155-2163.


The Marked Pervert submitted the above paper.
Oviously the paycheck and prestige of these people demand that they
support vaccination. Sorta like the hardest thing to get someome to
understand is that which their paycheck require that they
misunderstand.
Had these statisticians arrived at any other conclusion, the work
would not have been released and they might well have lost their jobs.


In response to Peter the Moron:

It is obscene that some still dispute the value of vaccinations. Look at
the gravestones of all the young children in any old graveyard. Talk to
those old enough to remember the polio epidemics and the hospitals full of
iron lungs. In the space of a single lifetime mortality and morbidity
from epidemic illnesses and also tetanus has plummeted.


Yes, fatal illnesses have plummeted. Why? Sanitation and better
nutrition. The gravestones are testimony to the incompetence of the
doctors of that time with the same license to kill that modern docs
have.
When I was young, I never saw nor heard of any child having polio.
Only the city brats fed colas and ice cream in the summer developed
the dis-ease. The hospitals full of iron lungs are, again, testimony
to the incomeptence of the docs and the need for propaganda to
frighten the sheeple.




Secondly, compare what they are saying to another well researched book
by Neil Z. Miller. You will readily see that most of these diseases
were declining prior to any vaccine useage. You will also find many
other studies coming to the same conclusion by various authors.


Mr Cee, will you explain why it is that only diseases that are vaccinated
against that have declined or disappeared in developed countries, yet we
still have the same susceptibility to colds, flu, enteric infections,
venereal infections and malaria?


It is really very simple and logical. All the diseases being
vaccinated for were already in decline long before any vaccine was
developed. The data clearly indicates that the introduction of the
vaccines had no effect on the decline of the dis-ease, while they
sometimes did increase the disease. You certainly would not want a
disease increasing if you were vaccinating for it, now would we? One
of the criteria for diagnosis is that if you have been vaccinated for
a disease, the doc will not diagnose you with that disease. The doc
has plenty of diseases to choose from and no one will dispute his
choice.

The authorities are not as stupid as you. If you are going to promote
a vaccine, you need a disease in decline for which you can claim the
vaccine did the trick. It is also helpful if you can control how many
get sick by issuing varying diagnostic criteria that the cadre of docs
will follow like dumb judas goats.

The cold, and the flu are the "healing response" of a living, vital
body. These dis-eases are the body's way of getting morbid, toxic
matter out of the body to promote health and to prolong live. The
orthopathic statement was "If you feed a cold, you may have to starve
a fever," meaning that if you fight the body and fight the cold you
may well be encouraging the body to develop a more severe response, a
flu.

Why also are there so many examples of
these illnesses flaring up in unvaccinated populations, or when vaccination
rates drop?


The same illnesses flare up in vaccinated populations as well. If the
vaccines work, why do the vaccinated become ill?


I am serious. I want you to tell us in your own words how such situations
could have come about other than through the effect of vaccinations. You
can resort to personal abuse and even more ridiculous elaborations of the
Grand All-purpose "Alternative" Medical Conspiracy Theory if you prefer to
show how barren and biased the anti-vax understanding of the epidemiological
evidence truly is.



The science of Bechamp, Estor, Enderlein, Rosenow, Rife, Reich, and
others amply demonstrate that:
The germ theory of disease is false.
Bacteria are pleomorphic and not monomorphic
All disease is endo caused not exo caused.


Nothing there that a bit of exposure to real medicine and microbiology
couldn't fix.


Nothing there but using true science to discover and reveal the truth
would not correct. The truth would make the medics look foolish and
stupid, microbiology a farce, and the whole medical system bancrupt.
Alas, we cannot allow the complete collapse of the allopathic medical
monopoly. The world might never recover from the financial holacost
that would result.

PM

DrCee
Not a member of the medical monopoly
Not a member of the church of modern medicine



Knowing this, the vaccine industry is clearly based upon fear,
superstition, gross ignorance, and propaganda.


Refusal is much more common in Britain, and in August the national
Health Protection Agency warned that Britain was having its worst
measles outbreak in 20 years, with 480 confirmed cases and one death.


Interesting comment. How many of the confirmed cases have been
vaccinated? Who was the first case and how did they contract the
disorder other than being told they have it by their doctor?


DrCee
Not a member of the medical monopoly
Not a member of the church of modern medicine- Hide quoted text -


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Old November 15th 07, 10:20 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
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"Jan Drew" wrote:

JAMA is *Organized medicine*.


Except when it publishes work by Lazarou, Pomeranz, and Corey about
"needless deaths"?

If you are consistent in your hatred of JAMA you will, of course,
criticise the next person who cites the research by the three people
mentioned above.
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Old November 15th 07, 10:46 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
Peter Moran[_3_]
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Default Bad news for anti-vac liars: Vaccines work

wrote in message
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Mr Cee, will you explain why it is that only diseases that are
vaccinated
against that have declined or disappeared in developed countries, yet we
still have the same susceptibility to colds, flu, enteric infections,
venereal infections and malaria?


It is really very simple and logical. All the diseases being
vaccinated for were already in decline long before any vaccine was
developed. The data clearly indicates that the introduction of the
vaccines had no effect on the decline of the dis-ease, while they
sometimes did increase the disease.


So the doctors, departments of health and governments of the entire
civilised world got together to promote vaccines for diseases that were
already noticeably disappearing? Ridiculous!!

As predicted, personal abuse and conspiracy.

Peter Moran

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Old November 16th 07, 01:00 AM posted to misc.health.alternative, misc.kids.health
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Default Bad news for anti-vac liars: Vaccines work

On Nov 15, 5:46 pm, "Peter Moran" wrote:
wrote in message

...

Mr Cee, will you explain why it is that only diseases that are
vaccinated
against that have declined or disappeared in developed countries, yet we
still have the same susceptibility to colds, flu, enteric infections,
venereal infections and malaria?


It is really very simple and logical. All the diseases being
vaccinated for were already in decline long before any vaccine was
developed. The data clearly indicates that the introduction of the
vaccines had no effect on the decline of the dis-ease, while they
sometimes did increase the disease.


So the doctors, departments of health and governments of the entire
civilised world got together to promote vaccines for diseases that were
already noticeably disappearing? Ridiculous!!

As predicted, personal abuse and conspiracy.

Peter Moran


As expected, Peter the Moron refuses to investigate and discover the
truth. The promotion of vaccines for disappearing diseases was by the
medical monopoly. The docs, and the governments were simply bought.
The sheeple simply went along for the ride without knowing any
better.

Admit it. The medical monopoly owns big pharma, they control medical
education, they control the media, they control the government, and
can do damn well as they please when it comes to human health and
disease.

The true science is very clear.
Bacteria are pleo-morphic and not mono-morphic ( like one bug for
every disease ).
All disease is endogenous in formation and not exogenous ( except for
poisoning and medicines ).
The germ theory of disease is absolutely false.
Vaccines scientifically cannot work and in reality do not work to
prevent any disease.

DrCee
Not a member of the medical monopoly
Not a member of the church of modern medicine
 




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