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Old May 2nd 07, 02:35 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics,misc.kids
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On May 1, 10:31 pm, "Jeff" wrote:
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I think this sounds pretty biased as studies go. While there might be
instances of better behavior in religious familes, I doubt that this
is predomenantly the case. From what I have seen, it just doesn't seem
to be the case.


When I was coaching kids on a church soccer team (the church also had a
school) in a public league (the church fielded about 1 of 8 teams in various
age-groups), the kids were really well behaved compared to the other teams I
have coached in the same city (actually, the only other teams that I coached
where the kids were as well behaved was in Harlem and young teams 1st and
2nd grade).


Fear only works until the child becomes big and brave enough to fight
back.

Yet, I would think that some atheist families would score high. I know one
family where the parents are not practicing, and the family is great.


I don't practice religion in my home, either, and my children are well
adjusted and fine with idea of taking care of their own choices. IOW,
they don't need a belief system of any sort to understand and live
their lives responsibly.

Jeff



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Old May 2nd 07, 02:42 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics,misc.kids
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On May 2, 8:34 am, "Jeff" wrote:
"Uncle Vic" wrote in message

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One fine day in alt.atheism, Sound of Trumpet
bloodied us up with this:


Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs, Study Shows


Children don't thrive, numbskull. Reproduction does.


1) No need to insult people. That is so childish.


Your priorities, it seems, are mixed-up.

2) Thrive is the proper verb to use. Thrive means to make stead progress;
to prosper as well as to grow vigorously, to flourish. Obviously, by grow
vigorously, they mean as emotionally, not physically.


The study is still a lot of horse****, which ever way one looks. But I
think you understand this.

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Old May 2nd 07, 03:43 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics,misc.kids
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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wrote in message
oups.com...
...

I think this sounds pretty biased as studies go. While there might be
instances of better behavior in religious familes, I doubt that this
is predomenantly the case. From what I have seen, it just doesn't seem
to be the case.


When I was coaching kids on a church soccer team (the church also had a
school) in a public league (the church fielded about 1 of 8 teams in
various age-groups), the kids were really well behaved compared to the
other teams I have coached in the same city (actually, the only other
teams that I coached where the kids were as well behaved was in Harlem and
young teams 1st and 2nd grade).

Yet, I would think that some atheist families would score high. I know one
family where the parents are not practicing, and the family is great.


I'm sure it varies, but in the case of two of my SIL's kids - who are
Catholic, go to Catholic school and are making their first communion in two
weeks - they're behavior isn't that great; in fact absolutely terrible in
the case of the girl.
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Old May 2nd 07, 04:41 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics,misc.kids
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On Wed, 02 May 2007 12:34:47 GMT, "Jeff" wrote:


"Uncle Vic" wrote in message
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One fine day in alt.atheism, Sound of Trumpet
bloodied us up with this:

Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs, Study Shows


Children don't thrive, numbskull. Reproduction does.


The prisons are full of people from religious families, children
from religious families are often drug addicts.
Many sexually abused children come from religious families.
1) No need to insult people. That is so childish.

2) Thrive is the proper verb to use. Thrive means to make stead progress;
to prosper as well as to grow vigorously, to flourish. Obviously, by grow
vigorously, they mean as emotionally, not physically.

Jeff

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Old May 2nd 07, 06:06 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics,misc.kids
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yet, how many children are killed "in the name of god."


"Sound of Trumpet" wrote in message
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1823553/posts


Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs, Study Shows


LifeSiteNews ^ | 4/25/07 | Gudrun Schultz


Posted on 04/25/2007 4:18:36 PM PDT by wagglebee


MISSISSIPPI, April 25, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Children with
religious parents are better behaved and appear happier than children
raised by parents without the influence of religious faith, a new
study has shown.

The first to examine the impact of religion on the development of
young children, the study was authored by John Bartkowski, a
sociologist with Mississippi State University. Bartkowski's team
questioned the parents and teachers of more than 16,000 children,
asking the adults to rate the children--most of them age six--on self-
control, frequency of poor or unhappy behavior, and their ability to
respect and work with peers. The results were compared to the parents'
rate of attendence at church services, how frequently they talked
about faith with their child, and whether or not there was arguing
over religion in the home.

The children of parents who regularly attended church services and
talked with their child about religion were rated by both parents and
teachers as showing better behavior, self-control skills and social
skills than children from non-religious families. Children whose
parents both attended church regulary were rated as having the best
behavior and being the most well-adjusted.

Bartkowski attributed the impact of parental faith on children to
three factors, according to a special LiveScience report published
April 24. The community support provided by a religious congregation
could be a help to parents in improving their parenting skills and
reinforcing the guidelines they offer their children, Bartkowski said.
The children might be influenced by hearing those same guidelines
expressed by others and "take more to heart the messages that they get
in the home."

As well, religious congregations tend to emphasize self-sacrificing,
pro-family values, which could be "very, very important in shaping how
parents relate to their kids, and then how children develop in
response."

The sacred meaning and importance given to the role of parents by
religious denominations was a third factor identified by Bartkowski as
having an impact on the well-being of children.

Disputes and arguments in the home over religion, however, were
correlated with increased problems for the children. "Religion can
hurt if faith is a source of conflict or tension in the family,"
Bartkowski said.

The study did not account for the possiblity that parents of better-
behaved children would be more likely to attend a religious service,
nor did it compare the impact different denominations may have on
child behavior.

"We really don't know if conservative Protestant kids are behaving
better than Catholic kids or behaving better than mainline Protestant
kids or Jewish kids," Bartkowski said. The study will be published in
the journal Social Science Research.

In a study examining the positive effects of religion on health,
released last year, researchers found that regular church-goers tend
to live longer. Published in the Journal of the American Board of
Family Medicine, the study from the University of Pittsburgh Medical
Center found that people who went to church at least once a week lived
on average an additional two to three years over those who did not
attend church regularly.



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Old May 2nd 07, 07:27 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics,misc.kids
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On May 2, 8:08 am, "Roger" wrote:
Just because you like what your sources say doesn't mean it's reality.

Why do you ALWAYS use right-wing/religious sources?

Obviously, to **** atheists off and to feel morally superior about it,
without all that messy business of having to intellectually defend
ones opinion.

Hatter

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Old May 2nd 07, 07:34 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics,misc.kids
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On May 2, 6:36 am, Attila wrote:
On 1 May 2007 17:54:36 -0700, " in


One question must be asked about any 'survey' or report such as this:

If the results had been found to be the exact opposite would the
results have been published in the same way?

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Hehehe...yah sure they would.

Hatter

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Old May 3rd 07, 10:43 AM posted to alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics,misc.kids
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"Hatter" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 2, 8:08 am, "Roger" wrote:
Just because you like what your sources say doesn't mean it's reality.

Why do you ALWAYS use right-wing/religious sources?

Obviously, to **** atheists off and to feel morally superior about it,
without all that messy business of having to intellectually defend
ones opinion.


My guess is that he actually believes it.


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Old May 3rd 07, 02:32 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics,misc.kids
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On May 3, 5:43 am, "Roger" wrote:
"Hatter" wrote in message

ups.com...

On May 2, 8:08 am, "Roger" wrote:
Just because you like what your sources say doesn't mean it's reality.


Why do you ALWAYS use right-wing/religious sources?


Obviously, to **** atheists off and to feel morally superior about it,
without all that messy business of having to intellectually defend
ones opinion.


My guess is that he actually believes it.


Yes. That's my guess too. That goes hand in hand with wanting to ****
atheists off and the want to feel morally superior, and the incapacity
of intellectually defending one's self.

Hatter

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Old May 4th 07, 03:04 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics,misc.kids
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On May 2, 12:33 am, Uncle Vic wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, *Anarcissie* bloodied
us up with this:



On May 1, 8:54 pm, " wrote:
On May 1, 6:12 pm, Sound of Trumpet
wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1823553/posts


Children Thrive When Parents Follow Religious Beliefs, Study Shows


LifeSiteNews ^ | 4/25/07 | Gudrun Schultz
I think this sounds pretty biased as studies go. While there might be
instances of better behavior in religious familes, I doubt that this
is predomenantly the case. From what I have seen, it just doesn't seem
to be the case.


You're responding to low-quality propaganda posted by a
troll. Don't take it too seriously.


OK, but the fun-factor is up there.


Well, I am sorry these newsgroups get filled up with
obvious responses to stupid and dishonest arguments.
It is a very low form of fun.



 




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