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Trial Consultant with BOGUS credentials
krp wrote:
*snip* Ken Pangborn bought two bogus college degrees from Shaftesbury University which is a notorious diploma mill. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaftesbury_University He uses those two degrees to claim he has an earned masters degree in psychology that he doesn't have. He advertises that he has this degree on his largely embellished, unverifiable web site. People see that and haven't yet read about what a crook the dude is and they pay him $3000 a day for services that he isn't qualified to perform. This is fraud, and he is under investigation for it. http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com |
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Trial Consultant with BOGUS credentials
krp confessed:
"Greegor" wrote in message ups.com... Dave, We had a harasser named Dan Sullivan who referred to me as "turdbrain" over and over in various posts so you can see why Ken's name came up. There has been a collection of harassers, a pack, in alt.support.child-protective-services for several years now, with one of them, Kane, posting gratuitous public profanity for over a year. Some in the little band of harassers have claimed histories that vaguely resemble some of what Pangborn has claimed. Dan Sullivan claimed to have been for Family Rights against the sick Child Protection agencies, and has joined several such groups eventually to be seen as having ulterior objectives and expelled. Some of what this person has done can easily be categorized as attempts to sabotage from within. Dan and Kane posted "references" for each other while remaining anonymous. Dan Sullivan claimed a long history as a consultant to families in the middle of a legal struggle with abusive Child Protection agencies. The strange part was that Dan's advice was basically to SUBMIT or SURRENDER to the abuses by the agencies even where the agencies had been caught at PERJURY. Whenever Dan's strategy is questioned he reacts that his is the ONLY solution, and becomes hostile in a way that should be very familiar to anybody who has seen any of Ken Pangborn's responses. What? Gotta tell you something guy - I get perhaps 20 to 30 calls a day and a like number of e-mails. I refer out 80% to people like Pat Clancy in California, Larry Daly in Washington, to groups like Texas Fathers for Equal Rights, and to a dozen or so lawyers. None of them use the identical "strategy" I use, and I have never bad mouthed them or insisted mine was the "only way." I will say that I have often said that nobody matches the A-Team's track record for winning. I have joked that Dan's strategy is "winning through surrender". The ulterior motive for this has been a shadowy question. The parallels to and differences from Ken Pangborn are very interesting. Well I have NEVER suggested that one can win by surrendering, quite the opposite. And IF you read the A-Team website (www.a-team.org) you would know that our "strategy" is to be extremely aggressive NOT passive. Dan supposedly offers his help for free, but also refuses to call what he does "Trial Consulting" but Dan's arena is much less about CRIMINAL cases and more about the much dirtier fights with the sleazy Child Protection agencies and their rubber stamp courts. I have been a certified trial consultant foa many years. We also do dependency cases and custody cases. Both Dan and Ken seem to have a list of people who they will NOT help, a decision made based on ATTITUDE as opposed to any real case details. Ken's blacklist is hilarious. Oh let's see the list. Michael Jackson? Rev. Shanley convicted of molesting over a hundred youg boys? Andrea Yates who drown her 5 children? I think YOU need to realize that not everyone who is accused is innocent. The POINT of that page on the website is to say that OUR emphasis is in the FALSELY ACCUSED and we have done a damn good job at it! Over 90% of the cases where we are hired are dismissed before a trial. The "pack" seemed to be for REFORM of the broken agencies, but FROM WITHIN, which is an angle that has FAILED TO WORK for over 30 years. You cannot "reform" CPS. First it need to be dismantled (in MY opionion) and then a new agency put together with REAL experts.. Kane (Donald Fisher) turned out to be a retired Child Protection caseworker. This had been suspected for years because every time anybody posted a story about CPS agencies screwing up BIG TIME, Kane got angry and defensive. Kane also posted various stories spun to LOBBY for more money for the agencies. Well MY history if you search hard isn't that hard to find. When I was 12 I knew what I wanted to be. In broadcasting. When I was kid I hung out at radio and TV stations. When I went in the Air Force I had a part time job off base at a radio station. One of my duties was doing a program on AFRS when I was in the service. When I got out I went to work in radio and had an afternoon drive program that managed to be # 1 or # 2 in the ratings consistently for several years, then the station was sold to a religious group. I went to a few other stations and was a news anchor at a Sale Lake City radio station when I went on to win custody of my children from my first marriage. Hey, Freedom. Check this out. Not that long ago, Asshole claimed that the reference to "Pangborn" in Douglas A. Wallace's online autobiography, "Under The Mormon Tree", was in reference to some other Ken Pangborn: http://tinyurl.com/yfvlfh He said that Wallace, himself, publicly admitted this. But, he wouldn't answer my question as to where. Here's part of the old excerpt: "Another event which happened the week following the shooting was the re-appearance of Ken Pangborn. Ken you recall had been the fellow who was agitated at the west gate to Temple Square at the October conference. I had been asked to appear at a radio talk show to answer questions of listeners. While on the air I could see Ken through the glass partitions. During a commercial break, I went out to speak with him." Now, Isn't it just a bit coincidental that not only do we have two Ken Pangborns in Salt Lake City at about that time in Dumbass's life (or, so it seems), but BOTH happen to be involved in radio stations to be IN a studio? Today, there are ONLY two "Pangborns" listed in the whole STATE. Hahaha Now - I can see there are some VERY angry people here. I'm not. Moore and a couple of his buddies are into hating women, I'm not. STFU, Pangborn. You're just an Internet clown. I refused to allow my ex-wives to have that kind of power over me. Yeah, yeah...such a noble weakling. What twisted, little, feminist rationalizations you liberal mouthpieces can all weave for being spineless collaborators. Pussies like you all deserve your turn with the Lorena Bobbitts so that you can really earn your stripes as martyrs. They can carry around the torch for their cause, but I'm free to have a third marriage, because I made plenty of money from fathers at my fair rates. I struck gold not only in my lucrative practice but in a great woman who I rescued from prostitution in totalitarian Cuba. Her name is Barbara Sanciprian and shhe gives great head. sometimes when I'm getting some rfom her I lay back and laugh at the fathers who aren't at that moment because they can barely afford rent. I think they're stupid to do it their way when they can do it mine. If they want to pay for my blowjobs then i hope they like using their hands. Now we know how Pangborn really thinks. If you are looking for some angry dude to join you in fighting causes - I'm NOT him! I'm a damn good technician at taking it easy and living the good life. Thanks guys. Ken Pangborn Pangborn makes me want to vomit. - - - This has been another "Under the Moron Tree" moment, with: Turin I have such sites to show you... ------------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/turinturambar/ http://groups.google.com/group/Men_First ------------------------ "He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall burn in hell forever and ever...." ----- |
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Trial Consultant with BOGUS credentials
krp wrote: *snip* Owner of the FALSEAC discussion list is Ken Pangborn who bought two bogus college degrees from Shaftesbury University which is a notorious diploma mill. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaftesbury_University He uses those two degrees to claim he has an earned masters degree in psychology that he doesn't have. He advertises that he has this degree on his largely embellished, unverifiable web site. People see that and haven't yet read about what a crook the dude is and they pay him $3000 a day for services that he isn't qualified to perform. This is fraud, and he is under investigation for it. http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com |
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Trial Consultant with BOGUS credentials and other lies od David Moore
DAVID MOORE INTERNET NUT STALKER
wrote in message ups.com... He uses those two degrees to claim he has an earned masters degree in psychology that he doesn't have. He advertises that he has this degree on his largely embellished, unverifiable web site. Moore "unverifiable" website? It has more verified material than yours has. |
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Trial Consultant with BOGUS credentials
TURDBRAIN TURAM
"Turin" wrote in message ... Not that long ago, Asshole claimed that the reference to "Pangborn" in Douglas A. Wallace's online autobiography, "Under The Mormon Tree", was in reference to some other Ken Pangborn: http://tinyurl.com/yfvlfh He said that Wallace, himself, publicly admitted this. But, he wouldn't answer my question as to where. As he DID. Here's part of the old excerpt: "Another event which happened the week following the shooting was the re-appearance of Ken Pangborn. Ken you recall had been the fellow who was agitated at the west gate to Temple Square at the October conference. I had been asked to appear at a radio talk show to answer questions of listeners. While on the air I could see Ken through the glass partitions. During a commercial break, I went out to speak with him." Now, Isn't it just a bit coincidental that not only do we have two Ken Pangborns in Salt Lake City at about that time in Dumbass's life (or, so it seems), but BOTH happen to be involved in radio stations to be IN a studio? Today, there are ONLY two "Pangborns" listed in the whole STATE. And one of them is "Kenneth." Oooops.... And *I* am in Florida, and guess what TURDBRAIN - TWO Pangborns in Florida are Kenneth R., one of them is a lawyer who works for the state. |
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Trial Consultant with BOGUS credentials http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
krp wrote: DAVID MOORE INTERNET NUT STALKER wrote in message ups.com... He uses those two degrees to claim he has an earned masters degree in psychology that he doesn't have. He advertises that he has this degree on his largely embellished, unverifiable web site. Moore "unverifiable" website? It has more verified material than yours has. Sorry ****tard. Your ahem..."client" testimonials were all written by YOU. Not ONE of them is verifiable, just like that phoney college degree of yours. |
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Trial Consultant with BOGUS credentials http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
krp wrote:
KENNETH R. PANGBORN OF PALM HARBOR, FL. http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com INTERNET NUT STALKER wrote in message ups.com... He uses those two degrees to claim he has an earned masters degree in psychology that he doesn't have. He advertises that he has this degree on his largely embellished, unverifiable web site. Moore "unverifiable" website? It has more verified material than yours has. Sorry ****tard. Your ahem..."client" testimonials were all written by YOU. Not ONE of them is verifiable, just like that phoney college degree of yours. |
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Trial Consultant with BOGUS credentials
krAp crapped:
Turin wrote: krp confessed: "Greegor" wrote in message ups.com... Dave, We had a harasser named Dan Sullivan who referred to me as "turdbrain" over and over in various posts so you can see why Ken's name came up. There has been a collection of harassers, a pack, in alt.support.child-protective-services for several years now, with one of them, Kane, posting gratuitous public profanity for over a year. Some in the little band of harassers have claimed histories that vaguely resemble some of what Pangborn has claimed. Dan Sullivan claimed to have been for Family Rights against the sick Child Protection agencies, and has joined several such groups eventually to be seen as having ulterior objectives and expelled. Some of what this person has done can easily be categorized as attempts to sabotage from within. Dan and Kane posted "references" for each other while remaining anonymous. Dan Sullivan claimed a long history as a consultant to families in the middle of a legal struggle with abusive Child Protection agencies. The strange part was that Dan's advice was basically to SUBMIT or SURRENDER to the abuses by the agencies even where the agencies had been caught at PERJURY. Whenever Dan's strategy is questioned he reacts that his is the ONLY solution, and becomes hostile in a way that should be very familiar to anybody who has seen any of Ken Pangborn's responses. What? Gotta tell you something guy - I get perhaps 20 to 30 calls a day and a like number of e-mails. I refer out 80% to people like Pat Clancy in California, Larry Daly in Washington, to groups like Texas Fathers for Equal Rights, and to a dozen or so lawyers. None of them use the identical "strategy" I use, and I have never bad mouthed them or insisted mine was the "only way." I will say that I have often said that nobody matches the A-Team's track record for winning. I have joked that Dan's strategy is "winning through surrender". The ulterior motive for this has been a shadowy question. The parallels to and differences from Ken Pangborn are very interesting. Well I have NEVER suggested that one can win by surrendering, quite the opposite. And IF you read the A-Team website (www.a-team.org) you would know that our "strategy" is to be extremely aggressive NOT passive. Dan supposedly offers his help for free, but also refuses to call what he does "Trial Consulting" but Dan's arena is much less about CRIMINAL cases and more about the much dirtier fights with the sleazy Child Protection agencies and their rubber stamp courts. I have been a certified trial consultant foa many years. We also do dependency cases and custody cases. Both Dan and Ken seem to have a list of people who they will NOT help, a decision made based on ATTITUDE as opposed to any real case details. Ken's blacklist is hilarious. Oh let's see the list. Michael Jackson? Rev. Shanley convicted of molesting over a hundred youg boys? Andrea Yates who drown her 5 children? I think YOU need to realize that not everyone who is accused is innocent. The POINT of that page on the website is to say that OUR emphasis is in the FALSELY ACCUSED and we have done a damn good job at it! Over 90% of the cases where we are hired are dismissed before a trial. The "pack" seemed to be for REFORM of the broken agencies, but FROM WITHIN, which is an angle that has FAILED TO WORK for over 30 years. You cannot "reform" CPS. First it need to be dismantled (in MY opionion) and then a new agency put together with REAL experts.. Kane (Donald Fisher) turned out to be a retired Child Protection caseworker. This had been suspected for years because every time anybody posted a story about CPS agencies screwing up BIG TIME, Kane got angry and defensive. Kane also posted various stories spun to LOBBY for more money for the agencies. Well MY history if you search hard isn't that hard to find. When I was 12 I knew what I wanted to be. In broadcasting. When I was kid I hung out at radio and TV stations. When I went in the Air Force I had a part time job off base at a radio station. One of my duties was doing a program on AFRS when I was in the service. When I got out I went to work in radio and had an afternoon drive program that managed to be # 1 or # 2 in the ratings consistently for several years, then the station was sold to a religious group. I went to a few other stations and was a news anchor at a Sale Lake City radio station when I went on to win custody of my children from my first marriage. Hey, Freedom. Check this out. Not that long ago, Asshole claimed that the reference to "Pangborn" in Douglas A. Wallace's online autobiography, "Under The Mormon Tree", was in reference to some other Ken Pangborn: http://tinyurl.com/yfvlfh He said that Wallace, himself, publicly admitted this. But, he wouldn't answer my question as to where. As he DID. It's just amazing. You can post link after link after link with a ****tard like this, and he'll just keep lying his ass off against the proof ...rrrrggGGGHHHH!! Pangborn, you did NOT answer the ****ing question. I'll ask again: Where the **** did David Wallace, supposedly, publicly admit that you weren't the same Ken Pangborn in his ****ing story? Are you planning on dragging this out until the cached copy expires? Here, I'll fix that little business for you: http://tinyurl.com/yy642m There. Now, anyone can not only snag themselves a nice .pdf copy for future reference, they have the opportunity, now, of comparing it to the current link to confirm that it hasn't been altered. Now, post YOUR link - you lying empty scrotum. Here's part of the old excerpt: "Another event which happened the week following the shooting was the re-appearance of Ken Pangborn. Ken you recall had been the fellow who was agitated at the west gate to Temple Square at the October conference. I had been asked to appear at a radio talk show to answer questions of listeners. While on the air I could see Ken through the glass partitions. During a commercial break, I went out to speak with him." Now, Isn't it just a bit coincidental that not only do we have two Ken Pangborns in Salt Lake City at about that time in Dumbass's life (or, so it seems), but BOTH happen to be involved in radio stations to be IN a studio? Today, there are ONLY two "Pangborns" listed in the whole STATE. And one of them is "Kenneth." Oooops.... And *I* am in Florida, and guess what TURDBRAIN - TWO Pangborns in Florida are Kenneth R., one of them is a lawyer who works for the state. Spare us some of the bull****, FAGBORN. I was talking about Utah. There are no other Kens listed in Utah, today. - - - This has been another enlightening moment, with: Turin I have such sites to show you... ------------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/turinturambar/ http://groups.google.com/group/Men_First ------------------------ "He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall burn in hell forever and ever...." ----- Hahaha Now - I can see there are some VERY angry people here. I'm not. Moore and a couple of his buddies are into hating women, I'm not. STFU, Pangborn. You're just an Internet clown. I refused to allow my ex-wives to have that kind of power over me. Yeah, yeah...such a noble weakling. What twisted, little, feminist rationalizations you liberal mouthpieces can all weave for being spineless collaborators. Pussies like you all deserve your turn with the Lorena Bobbitts so that you can really earn your stripes as martyrs. They can carry around the torch for their cause, but I'm free to have a third marriage, because I made plenty of money from fathers at my fair rates. I struck gold not only in my lucrative practice but in a great woman who I rescued from prostitution in totalitarian Cuba. Her name is Barbara Sanciprian and shhe gives great head. sometimes when I'm getting some rfom her I lay back and laugh at the fathers who aren't at that moment because they can barely afford rent. I think they're stupid to do it their way when they can do it mine. If they want to pay for my blowjobs then i hope they like using their hands. Now we know how Pangborn really thinks. If you are looking for some angry dude to join you in fighting causes - I'm NOT him! I'm a damn good technician at taking it easy and living the good life. Thanks guys. Ken Pangborn Pangborn makes me want to vomit. - - - This has been another "Under the Moron Tree" moment, with: Turin I have such sites to show you... ------------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/turinturambar/ http://groups.google.com/group/Men_First ------------------------ "He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall burn in hell forever and ever...." ----- |
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Trial Consultant with BOGUS credentials
TURBRAIN TURAM - a/k/a/ Teddy Meyer
"Turin" wrote in message ... Not that long ago, Asshole claimed that the reference to "Pangborn" in Douglas A. Wallace's online autobiography, "Under The Mormon Tree", was in reference to some other Ken Pangborn: http://tinyurl.com/yfvlfh He said that Wallace, himself, publicly admitted this. But, he wouldn't answer my question as to where. As he DID. It's just amazing. You can post link after link after link with a ****tard like this, and he'll just keep lying his ass off against the proof ...rrrrggGGGHHHH!! The info was posted as you TRIED to make this argument years ago. Pangborn, you did NOT answer the ****ing question. I'll ask again: Where the **** did David Wallace, supposedly, publicly admit that you weren't the same Ken Pangborn in his ****ing story? He did that in e-mails, First of all JERKOFF, the event in Wallace's story took place almost 2 YEARS before I got to Salt Lake City. While I worked in radio in Salt Lake City - the station I worked at did NOT have any "Talk Shows." The "talk" radio was at that time KSXX and I didn't work there EVER! Are you planning on dragging this out until the cached copy expires? Here, I'll fix that little business for you: http://tinyurl.com/yy642m I will say this one last time. I have never met Mr. Wallace. My first and only contact with the man came when you TRIED to bring this up in ADRU and soc.men. I never met Mr. Wallace much less had any confrontation with him, his responses to me were posted at the time. At the time YOU were claiming that I had SHOT a police detective. More of your BULL****! The *REAL* story was that two Salt Lake City police detectives on a stakeout had an accident where one of the detectives' weapons discharged injuring the other. I wasn't even IN Utah yet. |
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Trial Consultant with REAL credentials http://www.a-team.org
DAVID MOORE PSYCHO INTERNET STALKER CRYBABY
wrote in message ps.com... He advertises that he has this degree on his largely embellished, unverifiable web site. Moore "unverifiable" website? It has more verified material than yours has. Sorry ****tard. Your ahem..."client" testimonials were all written by YOU. Not ONE of them is verifiable, just like that phoney college degree of yours. Sorry Davey in that you use a FALSE NAME to get access to my listserv - and some of those testimonials were posted there by real users, and SOME, Davey even have PHOTOS on the site, your claims are merely more of your psycho bull****. |
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