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Old April 4th 06, 06:42 PM posted to alt.parenting.spanking
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40 or 50 years ago, before the "educational flatline," a principal
might take a slat from an old desk and convert into a serviceable
paddle. A few well-timed phone calls and conferences nipped many
problems in the bud. The cost for maintaining order in the classroom
was essentially $0 and maintained tolerable discipline sufficiently
tolerable to attract good teachers. These days it costs the taxpayers
a bundle to preserve the illusion of safe schools and the quality of
education isn't any better.

Every school has a "safe school plan" with surveys, goals, objectives,
and evaluations that takes time to construct and maintain. Some of
these things can fill a small library! Often, they cannot be
effectively maintained without the aid of computers and "voluntary"
teacher manpower at the expense of more productive instructional or
lesson preparation time. Then, there are the every helpful outside
consultants who often come with a ridiculous price tag.

Although not usually directly billed to schools, there is the cost of
psychotropic drugs administered to small boys. Some have been linked
to suicide, murder, and sometimes-bizarre behavior. The long-term
effects and costs of these largely experimental drugs are unknown.

There are also the guards and cops roaming the halls. They come with
cars, uniforms, weapons, computers, salaries, healthcare, pensions, and
other costs that must be eventually born by the taxpayer. Likewise,
there is the proliferation of spy cameras, video equipment, fences with
barbed wire tops, locks, gates, guard houses, and the like that come at
taxpayer expense. Some school districts have OKed the use of
potentially deadly Tasers to inflict pain on students in order to bring
them into compliance.

The situation is so bad that some critics of pubic education have
described it as a mandatory 13-year prison sentence for the crime of
being born American! Others have claimed the goal of schools has
become to sufficiently dumb down the population to prepare them to live
in a police state that exploits them for their cheap labor as adults.

As with many police chiefs, principals often feel forced downgrade
incidents to maintain the illusion of control. Some incidents are
overlooked entirely. Others, like 5-year-old boys charged with sexual
harassment, are exaggerated to make political hay for the resident
feminist political officer.

All of this, and more, have replaced the lowly paddle. It is not
sustainable. The zoo under the surface is waiting to be released.

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Old April 4th 06, 07:22 PM posted to alt.parenting.spanking
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Opinions wrote:
40 or 50 years ago, before the "educational flatline," a principal
might take a slat from an old desk and convert into a serviceable
paddle. A few well-timed phone calls and conferences nipped many
problems in the bud. The cost for maintaining order in the classroom
was essentially $0 and maintained tolerable discipline sufficiently
tolerable to attract good teachers. These days it costs the taxpayers
a bundle to preserve the illusion of safe schools and the quality of
education isn't any better.

Every school has a "safe school plan" with surveys, goals, objectives,
and evaluations that takes time to construct and maintain. Some of
these things can fill a small library! Often, they cannot be
effectively maintained without the aid of computers and "voluntary"
teacher manpower at the expense of more productive instructional or
lesson preparation time. Then, there are the every helpful outside
consultants who often come with a ridiculous price tag.

Although not usually directly billed to schools, there is the cost of
psychotropic drugs administered to small boys. Some have been linked
to suicide, murder, and sometimes-bizarre behavior. The long-term
effects and costs of these largely experimental drugs are unknown.

There are also the guards and cops roaming the halls. They come with
cars, uniforms, weapons, computers, salaries, healthcare, pensions, and
other costs that must be eventually born by the taxpayer. Likewise,
there is the proliferation of spy cameras, video equipment, fences with
barbed wire tops, locks, gates, guard houses, and the like that come at
taxpayer expense. Some school districts have OKed the use of
potentially deadly Tasers to inflict pain on students in order to bring
them into compliance.

The situation is so bad that some critics of pubic education have
described it as a mandatory 13-year prison sentence for the crime of
being born American! Others have claimed the goal of schools has
become to sufficiently dumb down the population to prepare them to live
in a police state that exploits them for their cheap labor as adults.

As with many police chiefs, principals often feel forced downgrade
incidents to maintain the illusion of control. Some incidents are
overlooked entirely. Others, like 5-year-old boys charged with sexual
harassment, are exaggerated to make political hay for the resident
feminist political officer.

All of this, and more, have replaced the lowly paddle. It is not
sustainable. The zoo under the surface is waiting to be released.


A diatribe based solely on opinion and bull****.

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to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
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Old April 9th 06, 05:09 PM posted to alt.parenting.spanking
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I'm not so sure it's just a diatribe.

People are fed up. Those that can move their kids to private schools.

Homeschooling is growing!

And the homeschoolers I know spank.

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Old April 9th 06, 07:54 PM posted to alt.parenting.spanking
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If you have a child in public school, ask to see the school's "safe
school plan" or equivalent. Be warned. You may be denied access.

These comprehensive documents contain objectives, goals, and strategies
for coping with various difficulties. By the time you wade through one
of these sometimes bewildering maze of resource consumption activities,
it becomes obvious why schools have problems getting 8 years of
achievement into 12 years of compulsory schooling.

There is an old Arab saying that the camel is a horse designed by a
committee! The "safe school plan" usually fits that description.

While you' re at it, ask how much the school or school district paid
the consultant for his or her contribution. Absent bureaucratic jargon
and public relations fluff, exactly what did this person do? Ask to
see their recommendations.

This is you tax money. Know where it is going.

What you may discover is that far too many educational professionals
have been educated beyond their cerebral capacities.

wrote:
I'm not so sure it's just a diatribe.

People are fed up. Those that can move their kids to private schools.

Homeschooling is growing!

And the homeschoolers I know spank.


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Old April 9th 06, 08:49 PM posted to alt.parenting.spanking
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Opinions wrote:
If you have a child in public school, ask to see the school's "safe
school plan" or equivalent. Be warned. You may be denied access.

These comprehensive documents contain objectives, goals, and strategies
for coping with various difficulties. By the time you wade through one
of these sometimes bewildering maze of resource consumption activities,
it becomes obvious why schools have problems getting 8 years of
achievement into 12 years of compulsory schooling.

There is an old Arab saying that the camel is a horse designed by a
committee! The "safe school plan" usually fits that description.

While you' re at it, ask how much the school or school district paid
the consultant for his or her contribution. Absent bureaucratic jargon
and public relations fluff, exactly what did this person do? Ask to
see their recommendations.

This is you tax money. Know where it is going.

What you may discover is that far too many educational professionals
have been educated beyond their cerebral capacities.


So why not post one here and let people decide for themselves by
subjecting it to debate?

You afraid to?

Yep, thought so.

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wrote:
I'm not so sure it's just a diatribe.

People are fed up. Those that can move their kids to private schools.

Homeschooling is growing!

And the homeschoolers I know spank.




--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
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Old April 16th 06, 07:21 AM posted to alt.parenting.spanking
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At least two public schools have had incidents
where girls were lined up and given GYNOS
at school, to "screen for sexual abuse".

Ever wonder what the payouts were
on those law suits?

Why isn't there more public outcry that
such public issues are kept quiet by
secretive settlements and sealed records?

Wouldn't it benefit the public good if such
terrible wrongs were publicly exposed?
And the settlements too?

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Old April 16th 06, 02:53 PM posted to alt.parenting.spanking
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Greegor wrote:
At least two public schools have had incidents
where girls were lined up and given GYNOS
at school, to "screen for sexual abuse".


Please cite the incidences.

Ever wonder what the payouts were
on those law suits?


I'll bet you do ... a lot.

Why isn't there more public outcry that
such public issues are kept quiet by
secretive settlements and sealed records?


Oh, possibly because of privacy issues for the victims?

And then there is the small detail you might have overlooked: Unless it
was made public in some manner, you wouldn't know about it. 0:-

Wouldn't it benefit the public good if such
terrible wrongs were publicly exposed?
And the settlements too?


Sure. Your prurient interest is duly noted.

Both as to the sexual nature of your interest, and where you have shown
even more lust ... The Money.

Say, how's the suit against the state of Iowa for removing the little
girl wrongfully coming along?

Or did you have some other complaint you were suing for, like your
terrible inconvenience/

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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
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Old April 18th 06, 12:11 AM posted to alt.parenting.spanking
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Default Opinions and Reality, was At what cost safe schools

Opinions said " All of this, and more, have replaced the lowly paddle.
It is not sustainable. The zoo under the surface is waiting to be
released."

Opinions, you once again write an opinion. You have a great on-line
name. The schools using "the lowly paddle" have the highest rates of
school violence, including homicide. It doesn't appear that the paddle
is so much lowly as lethal.

And even in states that do not permit school paddling, children
committing the most violent crimes disporportunately come from homes
where corporal punishment is present.

Of course, you would know this is you read rather than relying on opinion.

LaVonne

Opinions wrote:
40 or 50 years ago, before the "educational flatline," a principal
might take a slat from an old desk and convert into a serviceable
paddle. A few well-timed phone calls and conferences nipped many
problems in the bud. The cost for maintaining order in the classroom
was essentially $0 and maintained tolerable discipline sufficiently
tolerable to attract good teachers. These days it costs the taxpayers
a bundle to preserve the illusion of safe schools and the quality of
education isn't any better.

Every school has a "safe school plan" with surveys, goals, objectives,
and evaluations that takes time to construct and maintain. Some of
these things can fill a small library! Often, they cannot be
effectively maintained without the aid of computers and "voluntary"
teacher manpower at the expense of more productive instructional or
lesson preparation time. Then, there are the every helpful outside
consultants who often come with a ridiculous price tag.

Although not usually directly billed to schools, there is the cost of
psychotropic drugs administered to small boys. Some have been linked
to suicide, murder, and sometimes-bizarre behavior. The long-term
effects and costs of these largely experimental drugs are unknown.

There are also the guards and cops roaming the halls. They come with
cars, uniforms, weapons, computers, salaries, healthcare, pensions, and
other costs that must be eventually born by the taxpayer. Likewise,
there is the proliferation of spy cameras, video equipment, fences with
barbed wire tops, locks, gates, guard houses, and the like that come at
taxpayer expense. Some school districts have OKed the use of
potentially deadly Tasers to inflict pain on students in order to bring
them into compliance.

The situation is so bad that some critics of pubic education have
described it as a mandatory 13-year prison sentence for the crime of
being born American! Others have claimed the goal of schools has
become to sufficiently dumb down the population to prepare them to live
in a police state that exploits them for their cheap labor as adults.

As with many police chiefs, principals often feel forced downgrade
incidents to maintain the illusion of control. Some incidents are
overlooked entirely. Others, like 5-year-old boys charged with sexual
harassment, are exaggerated to make political hay for the resident
feminist political officer.

All of this, and more, have replaced the lowly paddle. It is not
sustainable. The zoo under the surface is waiting to be released.


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Old April 18th 06, 12:13 AM posted to alt.parenting.spanking
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"A diatribe based solely on opinion and bull****."

Of course it is. The poster even calls himself "opinions."

LaVonne


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Opinions wrote:

40 or 50 years ago, before the "educational flatline," a principal
might take a slat from an old desk and convert into a serviceable
paddle. A few well-timed phone calls and conferences nipped many
problems in the bud. The cost for maintaining order in the classroom
was essentially $0 and maintained tolerable discipline sufficiently
tolerable to attract good teachers. These days it costs the taxpayers
a bundle to preserve the illusion of safe schools and the quality of
education isn't any better.

Every school has a "safe school plan" with surveys, goals, objectives,
and evaluations that takes time to construct and maintain. Some of
these things can fill a small library! Often, they cannot be
effectively maintained without the aid of computers and "voluntary"
teacher manpower at the expense of more productive instructional or
lesson preparation time. Then, there are the every helpful outside
consultants who often come with a ridiculous price tag.

Although not usually directly billed to schools, there is the cost of
psychotropic drugs administered to small boys. Some have been linked
to suicide, murder, and sometimes-bizarre behavior. The long-term
effects and costs of these largely experimental drugs are unknown.

There are also the guards and cops roaming the halls. They come with
cars, uniforms, weapons, computers, salaries, healthcare, pensions, and
other costs that must be eventually born by the taxpayer. Likewise,
there is the proliferation of spy cameras, video equipment, fences with
barbed wire tops, locks, gates, guard houses, and the like that come at
taxpayer expense. Some school districts have OKed the use of
potentially deadly Tasers to inflict pain on students in order to bring
them into compliance.

The situation is so bad that some critics of pubic education have
described it as a mandatory 13-year prison sentence for the crime of
being born American! Others have claimed the goal of schools has
become to sufficiently dumb down the population to prepare them to live
in a police state that exploits them for their cheap labor as adults.

As with many police chiefs, principals often feel forced downgrade
incidents to maintain the illusion of control. Some incidents are
overlooked entirely. Others, like 5-year-old boys charged with sexual
harassment, are exaggerated to make political hay for the resident
feminist political officer.

All of this, and more, have replaced the lowly paddle. It is not
sustainable. The zoo under the surface is waiting to be released.



A diatribe based solely on opinion and bull****.

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