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Old July 23rd 03, 09:42 PM
Irrational Number
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So, how do you all do it? My pediatrician tells
me to pump after every feeding. Sounds good in
the abstract, but after a feeding, I have to entertain
the Pillbug, or change him, or something comes up.
By the time I'm ready to pump, it's no longer right
"after" the nursing.

-- Anita --
Mommy to Pillbug, 6 weeks


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Old July 24th 03, 02:52 AM
Irrational Number
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Circe wrote:

Why are you pumping is the question, I guess? If you are pumping to build a
freezer supply for going back to work, then pumping right after a feeding
would be a foolish time to do it. You aren't likely to have much milk in
storage and will probably get very little milk for your efforts. If you want
to build a stash, you'd do best to pump first thing in the morning (when
you'll likely have the most milk, even after the baby feeds) or, if you can
juggle properly, pump one side while you feed the baby from the other (this
tends to get a good amount of milk because you're letting down already). If
that doesn't get you enough milk for your stash, you can also pump any time
your baby has a long nap and you're feeling "full".


Okay, this makes sense to me. I am indeed pumping to
build a stash for when I return to work. But, it didn't
feel right to me to pump after feeding, 'cause by that
time I'm drained and I have other things to do. So,
I've been pumping when Pillbug is asleep (he's been
feeding every hour, so when he sleeps for 3, I can get
a pumping in) or if he only takes one side.

Frankly, it doesn't sound to me like your pediatrician knows much about
breastfeeding or pumping, since his/her suggestion is totally incorrect for
building stash and totally unnecessary otherwise.


Actually, the pediatrician is very good. He's the one
who told me to feed on demand to build up supply and
also that there's nothing wrong with co-sleeping, if
you are safe about it. He probably just meant for me
to pump when I had a chance, or if Pillbug didn't
completely drain me at a feeding.

-- Anita --
Mommy of Sammy the Pillbug, 6 weeks

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Old July 24th 03, 08:51 AM
KC
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Pumping after every feed is a protocal to increase milk supply. I
have done it myself, so you would probably build supply if you did it
which would make your freezer stash bigger and perhaps make it easier
for you to pump plenty once you did get back to work, but it's alot of
work.

KC

Irrational Number wrote in message ...
Circe wrote:

Why are you pumping is the question, I guess? If you are pumping to build a
freezer supply for going back to work, then pumping right after a feeding
would be a foolish time to do it. You aren't likely to have much milk in
storage and will probably get very little milk for your efforts. If you want
to build a stash, you'd do best to pump first thing in the morning (when
you'll likely have the most milk, even after the baby feeds) or, if you can
juggle properly, pump one side while you feed the baby from the other (this
tends to get a good amount of milk because you're letting down already). If
that doesn't get you enough milk for your stash, you can also pump any time
your baby has a long nap and you're feeling "full".


Okay, this makes sense to me. I am indeed pumping to
build a stash for when I return to work. But, it didn't
feel right to me to pump after feeding, 'cause by that
time I'm drained and I have other things to do. So,
I've been pumping when Pillbug is asleep (he's been
feeding every hour, so when he sleeps for 3, I can get
a pumping in) or if he only takes one side.

Frankly, it doesn't sound to me like your pediatrician knows much about
breastfeeding or pumping, since his/her suggestion is totally incorrect for
building stash and totally unnecessary otherwise.


Actually, the pediatrician is very good. He's the one
who told me to feed on demand to build up supply and
also that there's nothing wrong with co-sleeping, if
you are safe about it. He probably just meant for me
to pump when I had a chance, or if Pillbug didn't
completely drain me at a feeding.

-- Anita --
Mommy of Sammy the Pillbug, 6 weeks

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Old July 24th 03, 08:51 AM
andrea
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"Phoebe & Allyson" wrote in message
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Irrational Number wrote:


So, how do you all do it? My pediatrician tells
me to pump after every feeding.


I can't get enough milk after a feeding to please me, and if
I end up pumping right before a feeding, it doesn't please
the Caterpillar. So we compromise - she gets one side, and
I get one side for a feed-pump-feed cycle. That way, I've
got a full side to pump off of, and she's got a full side to
drink off of. But I only pump once or twice a day, just to
build a freezer stash, or so I can leave a bottle if I'm
going out later.

Phoebe


That's what I was going to say. I use a handheld electric breastpump, and
when I pop the munchie man on one breast he stimulates the let-down in both
my breasts. He feeds one side , while I hold the pump in place on the other
side. I get quite a lot of milk that way. I must say it does fell weird with
the sensations of Kamron suckling one side ,and the pump sucking the other!

Andrea mom of -
Peter 7, Ellie 5, Alden 3, Joseph 21 mths & little munchie man Kamron 6
weeks weighing 13 lbs!
Married to David since 2000.


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Old July 25th 03, 03:37 AM
JoAnna
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That's what I was going to say. I use a handheld electric breastpump, and
when I pop the munchie man on one breast he stimulates the let-down in

both
my breasts. He feeds one side , while I hold the pump in place on the

other
side. I get quite a lot of milk that way. I must say it does fell weird

with
the sensations of Kamron suckling one side ,and the pump sucking the

other!

Andrea mom of -
Peter 7, Ellie 5, Alden 3, Joseph 21 mths & little munchie man Kamron 6
weeks weighing 13 lbs!
Married to David since 2000.



i don't know how you manage it!! I am usually fighting off my 2 year old
while nursing my 1 month old!! forget pumping when he's around either- if he
sees the pump parts laying around he wants to run off with them, i can
imagine the battle we'd have if he saw the gadget in action!!!

my 2 y.o. gave up BFing at 18.5 months so i don't think he's interested in
that, he's just a regular loony, active little boy. with a baby nursing
practically every hour i can't manage to pump but once a week if i am lucky.
i really want to work this out too...any suggestions from you mom's with
more than 1 kiddo?

thanks-
joanna *slightly frazzled*


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Old July 25th 03, 09:33 AM
andrea
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"JoAnna" wrote in message

i don't know how you manage it!! I am usually fighting off my 2 year old
while nursing my 1 month old!! forget pumping when he's around either- if

he
sees the pump parts laying around he wants to run off with them, i can
imagine the battle we'd have if he saw the gadget in action!!!

my 2 y.o. gave up BFing at 18.5 months so i don't think he's interested in
that, he's just a regular loony, active little boy. with a baby nursing
practically every hour i can't manage to pump but once a week if i am

lucky.
i really want to work this out too...any suggestions from you mom's with
more than 1 kiddo?

thanks-
joanna *slightly frazzled*


Hi Joanna,

I also have a little one running around he will be 2 in September. At first
he thought the pump was a toy, but I just got him distracted with a fave TV
show, then I pumped. Now he isn't even a bit interested when I pump!
I really reccommend you get an electric pump (if you don't have one
already), I use the Medela Mini-Elecrtic and it's great. I find that it
doesn't have too many parts, and is travel size. I tried the Isis but I
think it just took soooo long , time I
don't have with 5 kids. The Medela gets the milk from me quickly, especially
if I wait for Kam to stimulate the let-down first.

Also give him some pots and pans and a wooden spoon, that should keep him
busy! noisy but busy Lol! there are lots of ideas, like giving your 2yr old
a snack and drink in his highchair, or I give Joey some crayons and some
paper in his highchair.

Or you could consider only pumping when your 2yr old is in bed/taking a nap?
Joseph has one 1 hr nap, and he also sleeps from 7pm thru the night.

I only now pump once a day, and it's enough for a freezer stash.

--
Andrea mom of -
Peter 7, Ellie 5, Alden 3, Joseph 21 mths & little munchie man Kamron 6
weeks weighing 13 lbs!
Married to David since 2000.


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Old July 25th 03, 02:12 PM
JoAnna
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"andrea" wrote in message
...
"JoAnna" wrote in message

i don't know how you manage it!! I am usually fighting off my 2 year old
while nursing my 1 month old!! forget pumping when he's around either-

if
he
sees the pump parts laying around he wants to run off with them, i can
imagine the battle we'd have if he saw the gadget in action!!!

my 2 y.o. gave up BFing at 18.5 months so i don't think he's interested

in
that, he's just a regular loony, active little boy. with a baby nursing
practically every hour i can't manage to pump but once a week if i am

lucky.
i really want to work this out too...any suggestions from you mom's with
more than 1 kiddo?

thanks-
joanna *slightly frazzled*


Hi Joanna,

I also have a little one running around he will be 2 in September. At

first
he thought the pump was a toy, but I just got him distracted with a fave

TV
show, then I pumped. Now he isn't even a bit interested when I pump!
I really reccommend you get an electric pump (if you don't have one
already), I use the Medela Mini-Elecrtic and it's great. I find that it
doesn't have too many parts, and is travel size. I tried the Isis but I
think it just took soooo long , time I
don't have with 5 kids. The Medela gets the milk from me quickly,

especially
if I wait for Kam to stimulate the let-down first.

Also give him some pots and pans and a wooden spoon, that should keep him
busy! noisy but busy Lol! there are lots of ideas, like giving your 2yr

old
a snack and drink in his highchair, or I give Joey some crayons and some
paper in his highchair.

Or you could consider only pumping when your 2yr old is in bed/taking a

nap?
Joseph has one 1 hr nap, and he also sleeps from 7pm thru the night.

I only now pump once a day, and it's enough for a freezer stash.

--
Andrea mom of -
Peter 7, Ellie 5, Alden 3, Joseph 21 mths & little munchie man Kamron 6
weeks weighing 13 lbs!
Married to David since 2000.



I guess things are a little extra nutty here because our 2 y.o doesn't take
a nap everyday and usually goes to bed around 10:30. He USED to take a nap
everday at a set time and go to bed by 9. Also - he hasn't used a highchair
in many months and doesn't fall for the regular tricks. The only *trick* i
have left right now is to set him up with Play-Dough and he'll usually play
with that for awhile. But that can only work once a day and makes a big
mess. I do use the Medela Mini-electric and can pump and finish in just 10
minutes. I can probably just leave him alone in front of a video and pump
upstairs but then i won;t be able to hear him and i feel like i am deserting
him. Oh well...i'll just have to get a good routine going.

Also with my 1 month old nursing so frequently i can figure out a good time
to sneak a pumping in!!

Thnaks for the ideas
JOAnna
mom to Mikey 2y2m
& Anna 5 weeks weighing 14lbs


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Old July 25th 03, 02:26 PM
teapot
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"andrea" wrote in message ...
"Phoebe & Allyson" wrote in message
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Irrational Number wrote:


So, how do you all do it? My pediatrician tells
me to pump after every feeding.


I can't get enough milk after a feeding to please me, and if
I end up pumping right before a feeding, it doesn't please
the Caterpillar. So we compromise - she gets one side, and
I get one side for a feed-pump-feed cycle. That way, I've
got a full side to pump off of, and she's got a full side to
drink off of. But I only pump once or twice a day, just to
build a freezer stash, or so I can leave a bottle if I'm
going out later.

Phoebe


That's what I was going to say. I use a handheld electric breastpump, and
when I pop the munchie man on one breast he stimulates the let-down in both
my breasts. He feeds one side , while I hold the pump in place on the other
side. I get quite a lot of milk that way. I must say it does fell weird with
the sensations of Kamron suckling one side ,and the pump sucking the other!

Andrea mom of -
Peter 7, Ellie 5, Alden 3, Joseph 21 mths & little munchie man Kamron 6
weeks weighing 13 lbs!
Married to David since 2000.


So you six weekers are expressing? I was told to wait in case of
nipple confusion. Has it all been ok then? I am desparate for a hour
to myself but feel so guilty if I leave him with my boyfriend that ist
just not worth it. FTR bloke is very happy to take him but cant cope
iwth the crying when he is hungry.

teapot, tired, stressed out and fed up teapot
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Old July 25th 03, 05:09 PM
Phoebe & Allyson
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teapot wrote:

So you six weekers are expressing? I was told to wait in case of
nipple confusion. Has it all been ok then?



Caterpillar had a bottle right before she turned 4 weeks,
which was earlier than is generally recommended. She hated
the bottle, and it was a trial to get her to eat the ounce
in it. Then I topped her up from the source, which pleased
her very much. Since then, she's gotten better about taking
a bottle, but she's stopped taking her pacifier.
Apparently, a plastic thing that sometimes produces milk and
sometimes confuses her; if milk comes out of plastic things,
then she won't take one if she's not hungry, and won't be
satisfied unless milk is forthcoming if she is hungry.

Our routine has been that she never gets a bottle from me,
and she never gets a bottle after nursing. If I'm around,
and she needs to take a bottle, and I wasn't able to pump
enough for a full feeding, she gets bottle first, then
nursing as a reward. If I'm not around, and I wasn't able to
pump enough for a full feeding, then she has to wait until I
am around. So I'm hoping that she'll learn that mama is
easier than bottle, and that bottles run out and mama doesn't.

I also pump as much as she drinks that day, so if she's
getting a 3 ounce bottle I pumped yesterday, I pump at least
3 ounces today (which usually goes in the freezer).

She gets somewhere between 2 bottles a week and a bottle
every two weeks, so most of my pumping goes to freezer stash.


I am desparate for a hour
to myself but feel so guilty if I leave him with my boyfriend that ist
just not worth it. FTR bloke is very happy to take him but cant cope
iwth the crying when he is hungry.


Can he cope with the crying when he's not hungry? Does he
have the patience to feed a baby who doesn't realize the
bottle has milk, and can't figure out how to get it out?
(It took about an hour and 3 tries to get that first ounce
of milk into Caterpillar.)

Any chance of picking an hour when he's not likely to be
hungry? Nurse and burp and nurse and change diaper and
nurse again, then hand him off quick while you run out? I
wouldn't have any qualms with trying a 6-week-old who was
nursing well on a bottle, but I'm not sure that'll solve
your problem.

Phoebe

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Old July 25th 03, 06:11 PM
andrea
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So you six weekers are expressing? I was told to wait in case of
nipple confusion. Has it all been ok then? I am desparate for a hour
to myself but feel so guilty if I leave him with my boyfriend that ist
just not worth it. FTR bloke is very happy to take him but cant cope
iwth the crying when he is hungry.

teapot, tired, stressed out and fed up teapot


There is a risk of nipple confusion, but I haven't had a problem.
I have been pumping since week 1, and Kam is very happy with breast or
bottle. He doesn't care where he gets it as long as he is fed. He shows no
preference for one or the other.
Don't feel guilty, it's better that you take a little time off when you need
it, than end up so stressed out that you no longer are enjoying your baby.
You end up feeling like you don't matter anymore. A happy mom = a happy baby
IMO!

If I were you I would take your man up on his offer. )
--
Andrea mom of -
Peter 7, Ellie 5, Alden 3, Joseph 21 mths & little munchie man Kamron 7
weeks weighing 13 lbs!
Married to David since 2000.




 




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