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Doug wrote:
http://www.answers.com/topic/child-abuse

More to consider, since we have debated these points as well, and you are
wrong.

"Sexual abuse is the least frequently reported form of child abuse and is
believed to be the most under-reported type of child maltreatment because
of the secrecy or "conspiracy of silence" that so often characterizes
these cases. Sexual abuse includes fondling a child's genitals,
intercourse, incest, rape, sodomy, exhibitionism, and commercial
exploitation through prostitution or the production of pornographic
materials."

"Incidence

Despite efforts to reduce child abuse in America, more than a million
children are physically abused each year; about 2,000 die. Although the
magnitude of sexual abuse of children in the United States is unknown, it
is considered to be an escalating problem, and one that can result in
serious psychological damage among victims. There are no reliable
statistics available for emotional abuse and neglect, but these types of
child abuse are as potentially damaging to their victims as are various
forms of physical abuse. Child abuse extends across racial, ethnic, and
socioeconomic lines, but there are consistently more reports concerning
children born into poverty. The reporting of child abuse is complicated by
the private nature of the crime, the fearfulness of the child, and strong
motivation for denial in the abuser.

Hi, Kane,

Actually, rates of child abuse continue to decrease along with decreases in
funding, according to the latest available data from USDHHS.
http://tinyurl.com/r59pf

"Rates of substantiated sexual abuse dropped by 6 percent in 2004 compared
to the previous year, capping a 49 percent total decline since 1992. Rates
of physical abuse declined by 11 percent from 2003 to 2004, making for a
total 43 percent reduction since a peak in 1992. Neglect also declined 6
percent over the one year period."

"'These are very encouraging,' said David Finkelhor, professor of sociology
and director of the Crimes against Children Research Center at the
University of New Hampshire, who has been studying these declines.
http://tinyurl.com/r59pf

"'For several years people thought these declines were statistical flukes or
they attributed them to changes in the way cases were being investigated or
reported." But Finkelhor and his colleagues' investigation into the details
of the declines, in addition to their breadth and durability, have convinced
him that fewer children really are being maltreated."


I hear that there is a shortage of Cherry Pickers out in Washington
state, Doug. You should try it. But then you probably make more money
doing it as you do already.

There was NO mention of funding cuts being significant to
reductions...in fact, a hint that it's quite the opposite.

"Finkelhor thinks that the declines are related to a variety of social
changes that have occurred in the last generation. He cites more
awareness about child maltreatment, improved parenting practices, and
more effective treatment for family and mental health problems,
including psychiatric medications."

You could have quoted the entire piece...it's not much over a screen in
length. Why didn't you?

By the way. I think Finkelhor is wrong, but working with the available
data.

At least he's not cherry picking and he DOES acknowledge what you won't.

Imagine, improved "parenting practices," which our friends in the
alt.parenting.spanking newsgroup might want to think about. I have a
hunch the "practices" don't include improved methods of child beating,
or even spanking...both of which they've defended and left unchallenged
when others advocated them.

So tell us again about these funding cuts?

What funding cuts?

By the way, thanks for steering me to this source.

I note something veeeeery interesting...and surprise, it's about your
little MODEL state, Illinois.

By golly, if they got kids out of foster care more and kept them with
their families they sure managed, somehow to reduce the amount of
physical abuse.

But....snicker it seems two other categories went UP, Doug. UP. One of
which is, to children, the most dangerous for risk for fatalities.

Care to explain the great success of Illinois in this matter?

Is this going to be another Florida where you crow that due to using
cops for investigations the rate of children in foster care went down
(NOT THE CAUSE AT ALL, AS I PROVED) ...but we found the rate of
substantiated cases went UP?

You sure are stupid, or very bad at predictions.

Sexual Abuse Physical Abuse Neglect±
% Change % Change % Change
1992- 2003- 1992- 2003- 1992- 2003-
2004 2004 2004 2004 2004 2004 2004 2004 2004

Il 18.3 2% 8% 25.4 66% -17% 59.9 -33% 11%

Let me interpret for you, if the columns don't align properly.

And you can check the chart at (it's a download to the Office format
doc): http://www.unh.edu/news/img/cac/Decline_table.doc

On the "Il" row, the first figure is the rate per 10,000 age 18 for
year 2004.

Overall for the span of years from 1992 to 2004, it is a 2% increase,
with the 2003-2004 year an 8% increase..oh dear, Doug. Oh dear. That one
is Sexual Abuse. A favorite of yours. Seems keeping the kiddies at home
and out of foster care just made them more available to loving mommy and
daddy or others. (Consistent with other findings by review of the
research, Doug).

Then physical abuse is next. A rate of 25.4 per 10k, with a wonderful
17% drop in the last year, but...oh dear...A 66% INCREASE FROM 92 TO 04,
tsk, tsk, tsk. I wonder where Il, or you, were getting the figures to
claim this fabulous improvement in child safety due to moving children
out of Foster Care.

Then the last set. Neglect, that most deadly of the kinds of abuse a
child faces from parents. 59.9 per 10k, with a terrific drop from 92 to
04 of -33% but sadly in that last year reported... an 11% INCREASE.

So much for your bull****, Doug.

Moving children out of foster care, providing up front services...did
NOT result in the claims you have made.

The source for the data? Why, of course: "Source: NCANDS with additional
calculations by CCRC; U.S. Department of Health and Human Services,
Administration on Children, Youth and Families. Child Maltreatment
1992-2004 (Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1992-2006).

Doug, you are as full of **** as the proverbial Christmas goose. And
you'll by the propagandist line of your anti-CPS DestroyCPS buddies
forever, won't you.

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