Parent Speaks Out After Children Harmed by Vaccination

"The One True Zhen Jue" wrote in message
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On Dec 1, 11:27 am, Debbee wrote:
On Nov 30, 3:28 pm, The One True Zhen Jue
wrote:



Nope. That did not happen. This claptrap is 100% fabricated by anti-
vac liars, for anti-vac liars to enable their anti-child agenda.

Aluminum in vaccines is trivial. All childhood vaccines combined have
less aluminum than a 4oz serving of parmesan cheese.

Try posting something factual for a change, Ilena.

Andrew, how do you know that in fact this did not happen?

Because it is a melodramatic hodge-podge of anti-vac lies. Oh, it
also doesn't have any information pertaining to WHO the actual parties
are and there supposedly maimed kids. If it were a real story, we'd
have names and a lawsuit. As it is, we have the usual, poorly spun,
anti-vac lies.




TRANSLATION: Andrew cannot back up his accusations, AGAIN!

Where do you get your expertise about the amount of anything
in vaccines?

In school.




Um, which school might that be? Classes and subjects please.

I just would like to know where you have read this information.

The good ole USA, of course.




TRANSLATION: Andrew read it in some highly biased pulp mag.

Thank you.

On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, "David" wrote:
"The One True Zhen Jue" wrote in ...





On Dec 1, 11:27 am, Debbee wrote:
On Nov 30, 3:28 pm, The One True Zhen Jue
wrote:

Nope. That did not happen. This claptrap is 100% fabricated by anti-
vac liars, for anti-vac liars to enable their anti-child agenda.

Aluminum in vaccines is trivial. All childhood vaccines combined have
less aluminum than a 4oz serving of parmesan cheese.

Try posting something factual for a change, Ilena.

Andrew, how do you know that in fact this did not happen?

Because it is a melodramatic hodge-podge of anti-vac lies. Oh, it
also doesn't have any information pertaining to WHO the actual parties
are and there supposedly maimed kids. If it were a real story, we'd
have names and a lawsuit. As it is, we have the usual, poorly spun,
anti-vac lies.

TRANSLATION: Andrew cannot back up his accusations, AGAIN!



Where do you get your expertise about the amount of anything
in vaccines?

In school.

Um, which school might that be? Classes and subjects please.

The school was the National College of ORIENTAL Medicine and the
classes were microbiology and pathology.




I just would like to know where you have read this information.

The good ole USA, of course.

TRANSLATION: Andrew read it in some highly biased pulp mag.

You've lost a lot in translation, Monkey Boy.

"The One True Zhen Jue" wrote in message
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On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, "David" wrote:
"The One True Zhen Jue" wrote in
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On Dec 1, 11:27 am, Debbee wrote:
On Nov 30, 3:28 pm, The One True Zhen Jue
wrote:

Nope. That did not happen. This claptrap is 100% fabricated by
anti-
vac liars, for anti-vac liars to enable their anti-child agenda.

Aluminum in vaccines is trivial. All childhood vaccines combined
have
less aluminum than a 4oz serving of parmesan cheese.

Try posting something factual for a change, Ilena.

Andrew, how do you know that in fact this did not happen?

Because it is a melodramatic hodge-podge of anti-vac lies. Oh, it
also doesn't have any information pertaining to WHO the actual parties
are and there supposedly maimed kids. If it were a real story, we'd
have names and a lawsuit. As it is, we have the usual, poorly spun,
anti-vac lies.

TRANSLATION: Andrew cannot back up his accusations, AGAIN!



Where do you get your expertise about the amount of anything
in vaccines?

In school.

Um, which school might that be? Classes and subjects please.

The school was the National College of ORIENTAL Medicine and the
classes were microbiology and pathology.




I just would like to know where you have read this information.

The good ole USA, of course.

TRANSLATION: Andrew read it in some highly biased pulp mag.

Bwahaha!!

Stalin is in the history books. Pol Pot is in the history books.
Ghengis Khan is in the history books. History books are full of
stories about people who were responsible for the deaths of millions.


Sorry you misunderstood, we are talking about Haley not Offit.

Donna



On Nov 30, 7:41 pm, Peter Bowditch wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Boyd Haley hasn't told the truth in ages. It is sign of intellectual
poverty, apathy, and ass-clownery to reference him.

Malice! That is a lie.

They are and Haley isn't at all careful when he tells lies. He's put
himself into quite a fine mess.

More lies against one of the finest and brightest of Professors our
country has
ever had!

I would hate to come across the worst and the dullest.

You mark my word, Dr Haley will be in history books as the
man who
saved children in the USA!

Stalin is in the history books. Pol Pot is in the history books.
Ghengis Khan is in the history books. History books are full of
stories about people who were responsible for the deaths of millions.

--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraudhttp://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skepticshttp://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

Where in the world did you come up with the notion thst 1 in 6
children in the USA are disabled? That is nearly 17% of them.
Is this another one of Boyd Haley's lies or did you make this one up
yourself?


neurodevelopmental disorders and behavioral disorders in children has
now been documented in the Autism A.L.A.R.M. by the American Academy
of Pediatrics and the CDC to be at an unprecedented incidence of 1 out
of every 6 children.


http://www.nomercury.org/science/doc...tism_alarm.pdf


On Nov 30, 8:19 pm, The One True Zhen Jue
wrote:
On Nov 30, 6:43 pm, Kevysmom wrote:





Boyd Haley hasn't told the truth in ages. It is sign of intellectual
poverty, apathy, and ass-clownery to reference him.

Malice! That is a lie.

They are and Haley isn't at all careful when he tells lies. He's put
himself into quite a fine mess.

More lies against one of the finest and brightest of Professors our
country has
ever had! You mark my word, Dr Haley will be in history books as the
man who
saved children in the USA!

Even if they got the same amount of thimerosal as kids did in the
early 90's, they're fine. Thimerosal has been vindicated by 10 years
of vaccination without thimerosal. Autism didn't drop, it rose.

10 years??? How do you figure?

To quote the great philosopher Peter Townsend, "The Kids are alright".

Including the 1 out of 6 that are disabled in the USA?

Where in the world did you come up with the notion thst 1 in 6
children in the USA are disabled? That is nearly 17% of them.
Is this another one of Boyd Haley's lies or did you make this one up
yourself?

I reiterate, The Kids _ARE_ Allright! (the kids are alright.....)



Donna

On Nov 30, 6:37 pm, The One True Zhen Jue
wrote:

On Nov 30, 6:32 pm, Kevysmom wrote:

Nope. That did not happen. This claptrap is 100% fabricated by anti-
vac liars, for anti-vac liars to enable their anti-child agenda.

Aluminum in vaccines is trivial. All childhood vaccines combined have
less aluminum than a 4oz serving of parmesan cheese.

Dr Haley tested 9 vials of vaccines a few years ago to see if
Thimerosal was still present
in the vaccines, There was traces but one of the vials contained 9
times the amt of aluminum
then what was supposed to be in there.

Boyd Haley hasn't told the truth in ages. It is sign of intellectual
poverty, apathy, and ass-clownery to reference him.

How do we now for sure how much
mercury some kids
were actually injected with? Or how much aluminum? You would think
Pharma would be more
careful when mixing a drug that is injected into little infants! My

They are and Haley isn't at all careful when he tells lies. He's put
himself into quite a fine mess.

Even if they got the same amount of thimerosal as kids did in the
early 90's, they're fine. Thimerosal has been vindicated by 10 years
of vaccination without thimerosal. Autism didn't drop, it rose.

To quote the great philosopher Peter Townsend, "The Kids are alright".

God!

Donna

On Nov 30, 6:28 pm, The One True Zhen Jue
wrote:

On Nov 30, 5:07 pm, Ilena Rose wrote:

http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Health Lover

http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com

Two of my children stopped speaking, making eye contact completely,
lost
motor skills and coordination, and became autistic overnight after
getting
vaccines according to CDC's schedule.

Nope. That did not happen. This claptrap is 100% fabricated by anti-
vac liars, for anti-vac liars to enable their anti-child agenda.

Aluminum in vaccines is trivial. All childhood vaccines combined have
less aluminum than a 4oz serving of parmesan cheese.

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On Dec 1, 9:21 pm, Kevysmom wrote:
Where in the world did you come up with the notion thst 1 in 6
children in the USA are disabled? That is nearly 17% of them.
Is this another one of Boyd Haley's lies or did you make this one up
yourself?

neurodevelopmental disorders and behavioral disorders in children has
now been documented in the Autism A.L.A.R.M. by the American Academy
of Pediatrics and the CDC to be at an unprecedented incidence of 1 out
of every 6 children.

Wow! You really are dense. You don't understand the difference
between being declared disabled and the diagnosis of some behavioral
disorder. There are a wide range of transient problems that are
trivial compared to your claims of disability.

Did you even read the sourced material from the CDC?

On Dec 1, 1:00 pm, The One True Zhen Jue
wrote:
Because it is a melodramatic hodge-podge of anti-vac lies. Oh, it
also doesn't have any information pertaining to WHO the actual parties
are and there supposedly maimed kids. If it were a real story, we'd
have names and a lawsuit. As it is, we have the usual, poorly spun,
anti-vac lies.



So, if none of this is the truth, Andrew, then why are you and the
rest of your buddies
making such a big deal over it? Why not let people just post whatever
they want to
post about vaccines and the possible link to autism? Why not just
blow it off?

Neither side has convinced me of lies in either direction. I do know
that Aluminum is
not one's friend, and neither is Mercury. If Mercury wasn't bad then
when it spills
they would never evacuate a classroom or an office building, right?

On Dec 2, 1:30 am, Debbee wrote:
On Dec 1, 1:00 pm, The One True Zhen Jue
wrote:

Because it is a melodramatic hodge-podge of anti-vac lies. Oh, it
also doesn't have any information pertaining to WHO the actual parties
are and there supposedly maimed kids. If it were a real story, we'd
have names and a lawsuit. As it is, we have the usual, poorly spun,
anti-vac lies.

So, if none of this is the truth, Andrew, then why are you and the
rest of your buddies
making such a big deal over it? Why not let people just post whatever
they want to
post about vaccines and the possible link to autism? Why not just
blow it off?

Debbee, its obvious that you have no respect for the truth. After
all, you've told the group that you use to set off metal detectors
because of metals in your blood. Fortunately, most of the MHA
faithful do not share your disdain for the truth. We do not gladly
suffer anti-vac liars because of the harm they do to children.



Neither side has convinced me of lies in either direction.

You've convinced us that you lie in every direction, Debbee. The
truth is far more important than your desire to harm children by
demonizing medicine.


I do know
that Aluminum is
not one's friend, and neither is Mercury.

You've got no friends either, Debbee. So, what is your point?


If Mercury wasn't bad then
when it spills
they would never evacuate a classroom or an office building, right?

By your "logic", if water weren't bad, we wouldn't evacuate buildings
during a flood.

Kevysmom wrote:
Stalin is in the history books. Pol Pot is in the history books.
Ghengis Khan is in the history books. History books are full of
stories about people who were responsible for the deaths of millions.


Sorry you misunderstood, we are talking about Haley not Offit.

You misunderstood. Haley will be in the league of Pol Pot, Ghengis Khan,
etc.

And, if you enderstood science, you would be talking about Offitt, not
Haley.


Donna



On Nov 30, 7:41 pm, Peter Bowditch wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Boyd Haley hasn't told the truth in ages. It is sign of intellectual
poverty, apathy, and ass-clownery to reference him.
Malice! That is a lie.
They are and Haley isn't at all careful when he tells lies. He's put
himself into quite a fine mess.
More lies against one of the finest and brightest of Professors our
country has
ever had!
I would hate to come across the worst and the dullest.

You mark my word, Dr Haley will be in history books as the
man who
saved children in the USA!
Stalin is in the history books. Pol Pot is in the history books.
Ghengis Khan is in the history books. History books are full of
stories about people who were responsible for the deaths of millions.

--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraudhttp://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skepticshttp://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

Kevysmom wrote:
Where in the world did you come up with the notion thst 1 in 6
children in the USA are disabled? That is nearly 17% of them.
Is this another one of Boyd Haley's lies or did you make this one up
yourself?


neurodevelopmental disorders and behavioral disorders in children has
now been documented in the Autism A.L.A.R.M. by the American Academy
of Pediatrics and the CDC to be at an unprecedented incidence of 1 out
of every 6 children.

That has always been the incidence. It is only the prevalence that
increased.

There is NO epidemic.

Read the article in the Skeptical Inquirer for more information.



http://www.nomercury.org/science/doc...tism_alarm.pdf


On Nov 30, 8:19 pm, The One True Zhen Jue
wrote:
On Nov 30, 6:43 pm, Kevysmom wrote:





Boyd Haley hasn't told the truth in ages. It is sign of intellectual
poverty, apathy, and ass-clownery to reference him.
Malice! That is a lie.
They are and Haley isn't at all careful when he tells lies. He's put
himself into quite a fine mess.
More lies against one of the finest and brightest of Professors our
country has
ever had! You mark my word, Dr Haley will be in history books as the
man who
saved children in the USA!
Even if they got the same amount of thimerosal as kids did in the
early 90's, they're fine. Thimerosal has been vindicated by 10 years
of vaccination without thimerosal. Autism didn't drop, it rose.
10 years??? How do you figure?
To quote the great philosopher Peter Townsend, "The Kids are alright".
Including the 1 out of 6 that are disabled in the USA?
Where in the world did you come up with the notion thst 1 in 6
children in the USA are disabled? That is nearly 17% of them.
Is this another one of Boyd Haley's lies or did you make this one up
yourself?

I reiterate, The Kids _ARE_ Allright! (the kids are alright.....)



Donna
On Nov 30, 6:37 pm, The One True Zhen Jue
wrote:
On Nov 30, 6:32 pm, Kevysmom wrote:
Nope. That did not happen. This claptrap is 100% fabricated by anti-
vac liars, for anti-vac liars to enable their anti-child agenda.
Aluminum in vaccines is trivial. All childhood vaccines combined have
less aluminum than a 4oz serving of parmesan cheese.
Dr Haley tested 9 vials of vaccines a few years ago to see if
Thimerosal was still present
in the vaccines, There was traces but one of the vials contained 9
times the amt of aluminum
then what was supposed to be in there.
Boyd Haley hasn't told the truth in ages. It is sign of intellectual
poverty, apathy, and ass-clownery to reference him.
How do we now for sure how much
mercury some kids
were actually injected with? Or how much aluminum? You would think
Pharma would be more
careful when mixing a drug that is injected into little infants! My
They are and Haley isn't at all careful when he tells lies. He's put
himself into quite a fine mess.
Even if they got the same amount of thimerosal as kids did in the
early 90's, they're fine. Thimerosal has been vindicated by 10 years
of vaccination without thimerosal. Autism didn't drop, it rose.
To quote the great philosopher Peter Townsend, "The Kids are alright".
God!
Donna
On Nov 30, 6:28 pm, The One True Zhen Jue
wrote:
On Nov 30, 5:07 pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Health Lover
http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com
Two of my children stopped speaking, making eye contact completely,
lost
motor skills and coordination, and became autistic overnight after
getting
vaccines according to CDC's schedule.
Nope. That did not happen. This claptrap is 100% fabricated by anti-
vac liars, for anti-vac liars to enable their anti-child agenda.
Aluminum in vaccines is trivial. All childhood vaccines combined have
less aluminum than a 4oz serving of parmesan cheese.
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