Time Article - What Teachers Hate about Parents (x-posted)

"Hillary Israeli" wrote in message
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In 9oNTd.81724$Yu.50138@fed1read01,
Circe wrote:

*"toto" wrote in message
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* I really think the usefulness of any particular technique will depend
* on the way the student learns and processes information.
*
*Ditto. When my teachers in high school required an outline for a paper, I
*always wrote the paper first, then wrote the outline from the paper.

I wrote the outline first. What an incredible waste of time to write an
outline after writing the paper.

Me too. I still do that, in fact, if I am for example going to deliver a
paper at a conference or meeting, and I need to have an outline to hand
out to the audience.

Microsoft Word will create an outline for you.

IMO outlines are not a useful technique for helping me write a paper of
any kind.

They work for me but I taught my youngest daughter a different method--mind
maps or webs.
~cate

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In article ,
Rosalie B. wrote:

In my
case I have a spell checker on my news reader, but it checks at the
end and not while I'm typing. The spell checkers on word processors
drive me crazy.

On most of the word processing programs I've used, you can turn that
feature off, so it doesn't check spelling as you go along. Instead, you
hit a button at the end to tell it to check the spelling.

What WP program are you using?
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Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care

Penny Gaines wrote:

OTOH, if a child younger then 8yo is trying to decode written music,
then that is the time to start formal lessons in an instrument?

Many children are reading fairly fluently long before the age of eight.

Many children begin formal piano study quite early. I know of many who
began at four and five years old. And they were certainly reading. I
guess it depends upon the studio.

as ever,

"dragonlady" wrote in message
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toto wrote:


I think that learning the words and how they are spelled works best
while you are writing them in a journal or essay, so my thought would
be to let the kids write and look up spellings as needed. They can
correct the spelling of words they got wrong as well.

By nature, I'm a lousy speller -- and this approach never helped. In
order to look up a word to find the correct spelling, you have to
realize you spelled it wrong in the first place -- and I can look at an
incorrectly spelled word and never realize it was wrong. I'm a
voracious reader, and I used to bust my butt on spelling words -- but
was just always bad at it. By the time my kids were in upper elementary
school, they'd laugh at me for my inability to spell.

Personally, I believe there is a "spelling gene" Either you have it or you
don't. My eldest son has it--if you ask him how to spell a word, he will
not only spell it correctly, he will parse into the correct syllabuls. All
this, of course, without studying. My eldest daughter can't spell worth a
damn. She would faithfully study the words, alphabetize them, define them
and write sentences. She would get A's on her spelling tests, but if you
asked her the following week how to spell last week's spelling words, she
couldn't do it.
My younger brother is a terrible speller. When he was in high school my
parents bought him the "Word Book". It lists words, without definitions,
but with correct spelling. It got him through high school Now he uses
spell check.

~Cate

"dragonlady" wrote in message
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"Tori M." wrote:

I dont know if this would help you but I know that 15% of a dollar is 15
cents. So then I multiply that by however many dollars that is.. It is
usualy an estimate... but it helps a bit for meTo figure out the tip at
a
resturant it is handy to know the tax. In nh there is an 8% hospitality
tax
so multiply the tax by 2 and there you go a 16% tip.. In WI it is a 5.5%
tax
so you multiply the tax by 3 and you have a tip.. I always round up on
top
of that.

I'm lazier -- and a fairly generous tipper. I just move the decimal
place over 1, round down to the nearest 50 cents, and double it. So a
tip on, say, a check for $36.90 would be: 3.69 rounded down to 3.50
doubled to $7.00. According to my calculator, that's almost 19%.
An even lazier solution is to double the tax.
~Cate

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:27:17 -0800, "Seveigny"
scribbled:

An even lazier solution is to double the tax.
~Cate

That would only be 12% in Indiana.

Nan

toto wrote:

I would agree with this which is why I think we need some
specialization at the elementary level with some teachers
actually concentrating in math and science.

I've seen some really good teachers who can do it all, but
not many.

It seems to be going that way, Dorothy, but I think it's a big mistake.

In article ,
"Seveigny" wrote:

"dragonlady" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Tori M." wrote:

I dont know if this would help you but I know that 15% of a dollar is 15
cents. So then I multiply that by however many dollars that is.. It is
usualy an estimate... but it helps a bit for meTo figure out the tip at
a
resturant it is handy to know the tax. In nh there is an 8% hospitality
tax
so multiply the tax by 2 and there you go a 16% tip.. In WI it is a 5.5%
tax
so you multiply the tax by 3 and you have a tip.. I always round up on
top
of that.

I'm lazier -- and a fairly generous tipper. I just move the decimal
place over 1, round down to the nearest 50 cents, and double it. So a
tip on, say, a check for $36.90 would be: 3.69 rounded down to 3.50
doubled to $7.00. According to my calculator, that's almost 19%.
An even lazier solution is to double the tax.
~Cate



That depends on how much the tax is where you live!
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Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:26:01 -0800, Rick Fey
wrote:

Penny Gaines wrote:

OTOH, if a child younger then 8yo is trying to decode written music,
then that is the time to start formal lessons in an instrument?

Many children are reading fairly fluently long before the age of eight.

Many children begin formal piano study quite early. I know of many who
began at four and five years old. And they were certainly reading. I
guess it depends upon the studio.

I was one of those.

I started at 4 with piano. I did read music, but then I was reading
books before then.


as ever,


--
Dorothy

There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..

The Outer Limits

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:46:21 -0800, Rick Fey
wrote:

toto wrote:

I would agree with this which is why I think we need some
specialization at the elementary level with some teachers
actually concentrating in math and science.

I've seen some really good teachers who can do it all, but
not many.

It seems to be going that way, Dorothy, but I think it's a big mistake.

We have always had specialists who teach gym, art and music,
why do we believe that all elementary school teachers should
teach math and science and all of them should teach reading
and social studies. It would seem that the skill sets for math
and science are pretty close and the skill sets for reading and
social studies complement one another.

I would think that someone teaching what they were strong in
*and* having the training to manage a classroom and in
child development would do significantly better at teaching
those particular subjects they were best at and trained in.


--
Dorothy

There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..

The Outer Limits