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Old January 30th 06, 10:24 PM posted to alt.child-support
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Default Don't Spawn 'Em If You're Gonna Pawn 'Em


* US * wrote in message ...

...can't...


Since you can't think, you shouldn't reproduce anyway.

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:32:52 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Do you always tell others what to do?


No, but if you can't learn how to use contraception,
don't have sex.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:02 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...are you saying that if a man is involved, the woman doesn't
have to be responsible ...


No.

Learn how to read.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:41:28 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... less capable than most women ...


You sure are. Don't reproduce: the gene pool
doesn't need the pollution.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:23:34 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... women are doing it by the thousands ...


Without any men?

You reckon those'd be immaculate conceptions?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:32:52 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Do you always tell others what to do?


No, but if you can't learn how to use contraception,
don't have sex.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:02 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...are you saying that if a man is involved, the woman doesn't
have to be responsible ...


No.

Learn how to read.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:41:28 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... less capable than most women ...


You sure are. Don't reproduce: the gene pool
doesn't need the pollution.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:23:34 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... women are doing it by the thousands ...


Without any men?

You reckon those'd be immaculate conceptions?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:32:52 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Do you always tell others what to do?


No, but if you can't learn how to use contraception,
don't have sex.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:02 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...are you saying that if a man is involved, the woman doesn't
have to be responsible ...


No.

Learn how to read.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:41:28 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... less capable than most women ...


You sure are. Don't reproduce: the gene pool
doesn't need the pollution.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:23:34 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... women are doing it by the thousands ...


Without any men?

You reckon those'd be immaculate conceptions?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:32:52 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Do you always tell others what to do?


No, but if you can't learn how to use contraception,
don't have sex.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:02 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...are you saying that if a man is involved, the woman doesn't
have to be responsible ...


No.

Learn how to read.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:41:28 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... less capable than most women ...


You sure are. Don't reproduce: the gene pool
doesn't need the pollution.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:23:34 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... women are doing it by the thousands ...


Without any men?

You reckon those'd be immaculate conceptions?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.



  #482  
Old January 30th 06, 10:26 PM posted to alt.child-support
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Posts: n/a
Default Don't Spawn 'Em If You're Gonna Pawn 'Em


* US * wrote in message ...

...stupidity.


Describes you.

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:42:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... do the ...


We know you'd **** an alcoholic woman without
using any contraception, then attempt to claim that
she alone would be responsible for the pregnancy.

Would you **** her while she's passed out?

It's already obvious you don't have self-control.
Just how far would you take that?

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:40:33 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...Should a woman provide financially for
children she brings into the world. [sic] Should she get a job and earn

money to
accomplish this goal?


If she's an alcoholic your temporary lay knocked up
because he was too stupid to use contraception?

If going out to work would mean abandoning the
baby alone?

Why do you consider childrearing to not be work?
Do you believe the child doesn't need someone to
perform that work?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:15:26 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

Oh, so you DO believe that a woman should be able to take responsibility

for
a child before she brings one into the world!


No less than the man. Why did you find it so
very difficult to get this? I made it quite plain.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:02 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...are you saying that if a man is involved, the woman doesn't
have to be responsible ...


No.

Learn how to read.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:41:28 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... less capable than most women ...


You sure are. Don't reproduce: the gene pool
doesn't need the pollution.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:23:34 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... women are doing it by the thousands ...


Without any men?

You reckon those'd be immaculate conceptions?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:42:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... do the ...


We know you'd **** an alcoholic woman without
using any contraception, then attempt to claim that
she alone would be responsible for the pregnancy.

Would you **** her while she's passed out?

It's already obvious you don't have self-control.
Just how far would you take that?

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:40:33 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...Should a woman provide financially for
children she brings into the world. [sic] Should she get a job and earn

money to
accomplish this goal?


If she's an alcoholic your temporary lay knocked up
because he was too stupid to use contraception?

If going out to work would mean abandoning the
baby alone?

Why do you consider childrearing to not be work?
Do you believe the child doesn't need someone to
perform that work?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:15:26 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

Oh, so you DO believe that a woman should be able to take responsibility

for
a child before she brings one into the world!


No less than the man. Why did you find it so
very difficult to get this? I made it quite plain.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:02 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...are you saying that if a man is involved, the woman doesn't
have to be responsible ...


No.

Learn how to read.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:41:28 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... less capable than most women ...


You sure are. Don't reproduce: the gene pool
doesn't need the pollution.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:23:34 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... women are doing it by the thousands ...


Without any men?

You reckon those'd be immaculate conceptions?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:42:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:


... do the ...


We know you'd **** an alcoholic woman without
using any contraception, then attempt to claim that
she alone would be responsible for the pregnancy.

Would you **** her while she's passed out?

It's already obvious you don't have self-control.
Just how far would you take that?

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:40:33 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...Should a woman provide financially for
children she brings into the world. [sic] Should she get a job and earn

money to
accomplish this goal?


If she's an alcoholic your temporary lay knocked up
because he was too stupid to use contraception?

If going out to work would mean abandoning the
baby alone?

Why do you consider childrearing to not be work?
Do you believe the child doesn't need someone to
perform that work?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:15:26 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

Oh, so you DO believe that a woman should be able to take responsibility

for
a child before she brings one into the world!


No less than the man. Why did you find it so
very difficult to get this? I made it quite plain.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:02 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...are you saying that if a man is involved, the woman doesn't
have to be responsible ...


No.

Learn how to read.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:41:28 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... less capable than most women ...


You sure are. Don't reproduce: the gene pool
doesn't need the pollution.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:23:34 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... women are doing it by the thousands ...


Without any men?

You reckon those'd be immaculate conceptions?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:42:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:


... do the ...


We know you'd **** an alcoholic woman without
using any contraception, then attempt to claim that
she alone would be responsible for the pregnancy.

Would you **** her while she's passed out?

It's already obvious you don't have self-control.
Just how far would you take that?

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:40:33 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...Should a woman provide financially for
children she brings into the world. [sic] Should she get a job and earn m

oney to
accomplish this goal?


If she's an alcoholic your temporary lay knocked up
because he was too stupid to use contraception?

If going out to work would mean abandoning the
baby alone?

Why do you consider childrearing to not be work?
Do you believe the child doesn't need someone to
perform that work?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:15:26 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

Oh, so you DO believe that a woman should be able to take responsibility

for
a child before she brings one into the world!


No less than the man. Why did you find it so
very difficult to get this? I made it quite plain.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:02 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...are you saying that if a man is involved, the woman doesn't
have to be responsible ...


No.

Learn how to read.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:41:28 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... less capable than most women ...


You sure are. Don't reproduce: the gene pool
doesn't need the pollution.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:23:34 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... women are doing it by the thousands ...


Without any men?

You reckon those'd be immaculate conceptions?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.




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* US * wrote in message
...

Men don't give birth.

===
Correct. Only women can choose whether to have a baby.
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* US * wrote in message ...
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:39:05 -0500, "P. Fritz"

wrote:

...concepts ...


They frighten you so much you avoid them, don't they.

Why do you hate women so much?

Can't you just date men and be happy?


LOL


On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:28:44 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

So you are saying that alcoholic women do not need to be held responsible
for their choices


If your temporary lay ****ed a drunk woman who
was passed out, what choice did she make?

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:40:33 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...Should a woman provide financially for
children she brings into the world. [sic] Should she get a job and earn

money to
accomplish this goal?


If she's an alcoholic your temporary lay knocked up
because he was too stupid to use contraception?

If going out to work would mean abandoning the
baby alone?

Why do you consider childrearing to not be work?
Do you believe the child doesn't need someone to
perform that work?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:15:26 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

Oh, so you DO believe that a woman should be able to take responsibility

for
a child before she brings one into the world!


No less than the man. Why did you find it so
very difficult to get this? I made it quite plain.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:02 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...are you saying that if a man is involved, the woman doesn't
have to be responsible ...


No.

Learn how to read.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:41:28 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... less capable than most women ...


You sure are. Don't reproduce: the gene pool
doesn't need the pollution.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:23:34 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... women are doing it by the thousands ...


Without any men?

You reckon those'd be immaculate conceptions?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.



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On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:11:25 -0800, "Chris" wrote:


Don't expect the concept to sink in.


No.....


Glad you agree.

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:56:30 GMT, "Phil #3" wrote:


... have lost ...
Phil #3


Indeed you have.

Your hatred for women is your hatred for your own mother, too.

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:33:34 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... a part of child rearing ...


Somebody has to take care of the kid.

Your temporary lay doesn't want to do it. He doesn't
want to pay enough for daycare, either.

He's too busy looking for the next passed-out-drunk
woman to **** without contraception, no doubt.

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:40:33 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...Should a woman provide financially for
children she brings into the world. [sic] Should she get a job and earn

money to
accomplish this goal?


If she's an alcoholic your temporary lay knocked up
because he was too stupid to use contraception?

If going out to work would mean abandoning the
baby alone?

Why do you consider childrearing to not be work?
Do you believe the child doesn't need someone to
perform that work?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:15:26 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

Oh, so you DO believe that a woman should be able to take responsibility

for
a child before she brings one into the world!


No less than the man. Why did you find it so
very difficult to get this? I made it quite plain.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:02 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...are you saying that if a man is involved, the woman doesn't
have to be responsible ...


No.

Learn how to read.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:41:28 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... less capable than most women ...


You sure are. Don't reproduce: the gene pool
doesn't need the pollution.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:23:34 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... women are doing it by the thousands ...


Without any men?

You reckon those'd be immaculate conceptions?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:56:30 GMT, "Phil #3" wrote:


... have lost ...
Phil #3


Indeed you have.

Your hatred for women is your hatred for your own mother, too.

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:33:34 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... a part of child rearing ...


Somebody has to take care of the kid.

Your temporary lay doesn't want to do it. He doesn't
want to pay enough for daycare, either.

He's too busy looking for the next passed-out-drunk
woman to **** without contraception, no doubt.

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:40:33 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...Should a woman provide financially for
children she brings into the world. [sic] Should she get a job and earn

money to
accomplish this goal?


If she's an alcoholic your temporary lay knocked up
because he was too stupid to use contraception?

If going out to work would mean abandoning the
baby alone?

Why do you consider childrearing to not be work?
Do you believe the child doesn't need someone to
perform that work?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:15:26 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

Oh, so you DO believe that a woman should be able to take responsibility

for
a child before she brings one into the world!


No less than the man. Why did you find it so
very difficult to get this? I made it quite plain.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:02 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...are you saying that if a man is involved, the woman doesn't
have to be responsible ...


No.

Learn how to read.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:41:28 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... less capable than most women ...


You sure are. Don't reproduce: the gene pool
doesn't need the pollution.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:23:34 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... women are doing it by the thousands ...


Without any men?

You reckon those'd be immaculate conceptions?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:56:30 GMT, "Phil #3" wrote:



... have lost ...
Phil #3


Indeed you have.

Your hatred for women is your hatred for your own mother, too.

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:33:34 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... a part of child rearing ...


Somebody has to take care of the kid.

Your temporary lay doesn't want to do it. He doesn't
want to pay enough for daycare, either.

He's too busy looking for the next passed-out-drunk
woman to **** without contraception, no doubt.

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:40:33 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...Should a woman provide financially for
children she brings into the world. [sic] Should she get a job and earn

money to
accomplish this goal?


If she's an alcoholic your temporary lay knocked up
because he was too stupid to use contraception?

If going out to work would mean abandoning the
baby alone?

Why do you consider childrearing to not be work?
Do you believe the child doesn't need someone to
perform that work?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:15:26 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

Oh, so you DO believe that a woman should be able to take responsibility

for
a child before she brings one into the world!


No less than the man. Why did you find it so
very difficult to get this? I made it quite plain.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:02 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...are you saying that if a man is involved, the woman doesn't
have to be responsible ...


No.

Learn how to read.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:41:28 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... less capable than most women ...


You sure are. Don't reproduce: the gene pool
doesn't need the pollution.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:23:34 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... women are doing it by the thousands ...


Without any men?

You reckon those'd be immaculate conceptions?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:56:30 GMT, "Phil #3" wrote:



... have lost ...
Phil #3


Indeed you have.

Your hatred for women is your hatred for your own mother, too.

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:33:34 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... a part of child rearing ...


Somebody has to take care of the kid.

Your temporary lay doesn't want to do it. He doesn't
want to pay enough for daycare, either.

He's too busy looking for the next passed-out-drunk
woman to **** without contraception, no doubt.

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:40:33 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...Should a woman provide financially for
children she brings into the world. [sic] Should she get a job and earn

money to
accomplish this goal?


If she's an alcoholic your temporary lay knocked up
because he was too stupid to use contraception?

If going out to work would mean abandoning the
baby alone?

Why do you consider childrearing to not be work?
Do you believe the child doesn't need someone to
perform that work?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:15:26 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

Oh, so you DO believe that a woman should be able to take responsibility

for
a child before she brings one into the world!


No less than the man. Why did you find it so
very difficult to get this? I made it quite plain.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:02 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...are you saying that if a man is involved, the woman doesn't
have to be responsible ...


No.

Learn how to read.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:41:28 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... less capable than most women ...


You sure are. Don't reproduce: the gene pool
doesn't need the pollution.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:23:34 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... women are doing it by the thousands ...


Without any men?

You reckon those'd be immaculate conceptions?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:56:30 GMT, "Phil #3" wrote:



... have lost ...
Phil #3


Indeed you have.

Your hatred for women is your hatred for your own mother, too.

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:33:34 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... a part of child rearing ...


Somebody has to take care of the kid.

Your temporary lay doesn't want to do it. He doesn't
want to pay enough for daycare, either.

He's too busy looking for the next passed-out-drunk
woman to **** without contraception, no doubt.

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:40:33 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...Should a woman provide financially for
children she brings into the world. [sic] Should she get a job and earn

money to
accomplish this goal?


If she's an alcoholic your temporary lay knocked up
because he was too stupid to use contraception?

If going out to work would mean abandoning the
baby alone?

Why do you consider childrearing to not be work?
Do you believe the child doesn't need someone to
perform that work?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:15:26 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

Oh, so you DO believe that a woman should be able to take responsibility

for
a child before she brings one into the world!


No less than the man. Why did you find it so
very difficult to get this? I made it quite plain.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:02 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

...are you saying that if a man is involved, the woman doesn't
have to be responsible ...


No.

Learn how to read.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:41:28 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... less capable than most women ...


You sure are. Don't reproduce: the gene pool
doesn't need the pollution.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:23:34 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

... women are doing it by the thousands ...


Without any men?

You reckon those'd be immaculate conceptions?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.




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* US * wrote in message ...

...still too stupid ...


Then you should take some more smart pills.

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:13:36 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Of course once the child is born, she will simply hand it over to the

father
saying "this child is yours because you wanted one"...


Why do you believe such stupid things?

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:23:31 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Call me a dummy,


You do that to yourself.

but I have yet to understand how a man simply has a child
because he wants one. What's the secret?


He finds a mate who shares that desire.

You must be really stupid not to know that.

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 05:21:44 -0500, "P. Fritz"

wrote:

The clueless ... cannot comprehend ...


Of course you can't comprehend that responsible
men decide whether or not to procreate.

You flunked basic sex-ed, didn't you.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:19:30 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

Are healthy adult women responsible for their own decisions to have or

not
have children?


Why wouldn't they be so, just as men?

Are you as stupid as you seem here?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:58:22 -0500, "P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager

DOTnet wrote:

... another clueless supporter ...


Actually, one doubts that you even support yourself.

Healthy adult men are responsible for their own decisions
to have or not have children.

You should learn what that's like if you possibly can.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:13:36 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Of course once the child is born, she will simply hand it over to the

father
saying "this child is yours because you wanted one"...


Why do you believe such stupid things?

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:23:31 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Call me a dummy,


You do that to yourself.

but I have yet to understand how a man simply has a child
because he wants one. What's the secret?


He finds a mate who shares that desire.

You must be really stupid not to know that.

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 05:21:44 -0500, "P. Fritz"

wrote:

The clueless ... cannot comprehend ...


Of course you can't comprehend that responsible
men decide whether or not to procreate.

You flunked basic sex-ed, didn't you.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:19:30 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

Are healthy adult women responsible for their own decisions to have or

not
have children?


Why wouldn't they be so, just as men?

Are you as stupid as you seem here?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:58:22 -0500, "P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager

DOTnet wrote:

... another clueless supporter ...


Actually, one doubts that you even support yourself.

Healthy adult men are responsible for their own decisions
to have or not have children.

You should learn what that's like if you possibly can.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually. On Sat, 28 Jan 2006

14:13:36 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Of course once the child is born, she will simply hand it over to the

father
saying "this child is yours because you wanted one"...


Why do you believe such stupid things?

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:23:31 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Call me a dummy,


You do that to yourself.

but I have yet to understand how a man simply has a child
because he wants one. What's the secret?


He finds a mate who shares that desire.

You must be really stupid not to know that.

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 05:21:44 -0500, "P. Fritz"

wrote:

The clueless ... cannot comprehend ...


Of course you can't comprehend that responsible
men decide whether or not to procreate.

You flunked basic sex-ed, didn't you.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:19:30 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

Are healthy adult women responsible for their own decisions to have or

not
have children?


Why wouldn't they be so, just as men?

Are you as stupid as you seem here?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:58:22 -0500, "P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager

DOTnet wrote:

... another clueless supporter ...


Actually, one doubts that you even support yourself.

Healthy adult men are responsible for their own decisions
to have or not have children.

You should learn what that's like if you possibly can.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually. On Sat, 28 Jan 2006

14:13:36 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Of course once the child is born, she will simply hand it over to the

father
saying "this child is yours because you wanted one"...


Why do you believe such stupid things?

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:23:31 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Call me a dummy,


You do that to yourself.

but I have yet to understand how a man simply has a child
because he wants one. What's the secret?


He finds a mate who shares that desire.

You must be really stupid not to know that.

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 05:21:44 -0500, "P. Fritz"

wrote:

The clueless ... cannot comprehend ...


Of course you can't comprehend that responsible
men decide whether or not to procreate.

You flunked basic sex-ed, didn't you.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:19:30 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

Are healthy adult women responsible for their own decisions to have or

not
have children?


Why wouldn't they be so, just as men?

Are you as stupid as you seem here?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:58:22 -0500, "P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager

DOTnet wrote:

... another clueless supporter ...


Actually, one doubts that you even support yourself.

Healthy adult men are responsible for their own decisions
to have or not have children.

You should learn what that's like if you possibly can.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually. On Sat, 28 Jan 2006

14:13:36 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Of course once the child is born, she will simply hand it over to the

father
saying "this child is yours because you wanted one"...


Why do you believe such stupid things?

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:23:31 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Call me a dummy,


You do that to yourself.

but I have yet to understand how a man simply has a child
because he wants one. What's the secret?


He finds a mate who shares that desire.

You must be really stupid not to know that.

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 05:21:44 -0500, "P. Fritz"

wrote:

The clueless ... cannot comprehend ...


Of course you can't comprehend that responsible
men decide whether or not to procreate.

You flunked basic sex-ed, didn't you.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:19:30 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

Are healthy adult women responsible for their own decisions to have or

not
have children?


Why wouldn't they be so, just as men?

Are you as stupid as you seem here?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:58:22 -0500, "P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager

DOTnet wrote:

... another clueless supporter ...


Actually, one doubts that you even support yourself.

Healthy adult men are responsible for their own decisions
to have or not have children.

You should learn what that's like if you possibly can.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:03:39 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

One must first conquer the challenge of clear thinking before they [sic]

can ever
have ANY chance of understanding the concept of responsibility.


Those who are responsible don't have kids they don't want to parent.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:37:41 GMT, "DB" wrote:

Responsibility?


If you learn what it is, you will discern that
avoiding unwanted paternities is definitely
in that category.

Your American Government wants to talk about Responsibility? LOLOLOLOL


The Bush regime is merely the criminal
usurpation of the American government.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:03:27 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

... it might be nice if the mother took a stab at it...


Are you claiming that she has abandoned the child?

... our children are irrelevant...


To the matter of precedent responsibilities, they are.

It's your own problem if you didn't determine that
your temporary sexual liaison had a history of
careless profligacy.

Silly child--I


You seem prone to abuse of those you believe
to be children. I hope you are supervised with
all due diligence in any interactions with them.

that mean old alcohol


Apparently you aren't well-enough educated to
realize that alcoholism, as a drug addiction, is
a health problem.

It's quite inhumane, hate-filled, and spiteful of
you to want to punish sick people.

...grumpy mood...


I'm sorry you suffer such so severely that you
project it where it is inapplicable.

I pity you.

I pity your poor children even more.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:16:58 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:

I bet


You shouldn't gamble.

You can't calculate the odds well enough.

You don't even dimly sense that when you attempt
to insist that someone else should shoulder the sole
responsibility for the actions of two people you
should at least first do so yourself.

overinflated ego ...


So that's why you believe others would owe you
compensation for your failures.

Thanks for the confirmation.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life

situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of

life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided

to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to

back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama"

wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that

create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "garbageteachr"

wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.



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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:54:14 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

...impairment ...


That's your best excuse for flunking sex-ed,
and your posts back it up. Go with it.

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:32:14 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... difficulties ...


It's a shame that your problems result in your
impairment to the extent that you can't even
comprehend personal responsibility.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:54:24 -0500, "P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager DOTnet wrote:

... it's post ...


You babble "it is post" because your unfamiliarity
with English puts you at a distinct disadvantage
in terms of learning, including learning about such
important concepts as personal responsibility.

full of
errors ...


Yes, you are. Your belief that men must be helpless
dupes unable to manage their affairs is in error, too.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:08:10 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

...a fictitious
discussion.


No one else is forcing you to lie.

Take responsibility for yourself.

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 03:37:28 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

Believe it ...


Mere 'belief' is not a fitting substitute for reasoning.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:00:33 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

... gone haywire ...


All the more reason for you to avoid procreation.

Here's the info you can't seem to process, so that
you can have another try if you work up the guts:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:41:05 GMT, "Gini" wrote:

Doubtful. ...


You sure are, if you can't even learn how and when
to use birth control.

Perhaps you can't even learn how to read this:

"Before copping an attitude about child support, consider the situation.
In this modern world, you can have sex without reproducing. So, whether
your children were intentional, or accidental, your actions caused them to
be here. It isn't their fault they were born. And, the fact that your life situation
has changed should have as little impact as possible on their quality of life. Both
of you made a financial, as well as an emotional decision when you decided to
have kids. Now that they are here, it is too late for either of you to back out
of your commitment to them."

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/indiana/in_art04

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:48:07 -0800, "teachrmama" wrote:

You would haveto explain your reasoning here, US.


I've stated the facts plainly enough. If you're just not the
sharpest tool in the shed you sure shouldn't procreate.

It's rather unsettling to imagine that you'd be a 'teacher'.

I'm not certain what it
is that you think I am not controlling.


Yourself.

No one forced you to have kids at all, much less to do so
with a man already proven unwilling to support them.

I certainly had no control over ...


You can't control yourself. You got pregnant carelessly, by
a 'father' who isn't suitable.

Now you want to gripe about nothing more than your own
sequence of errors in having done that.

... her mother decided ...


You don't speak for her. It's disingenuous for you to try to
pretend otherwise.

How could you teach a child to be honest when you're not?

Since he has been found to be this young ladies father


You thus disprove your false claims about the mother.

... mother who has never worked a day in her life
to support any of her children.


You don't believe that raising children is work per se?

What do you do, lie on the couch eating bonbons as your
own neglected spawn rot in their own urine and feces?

We had two children--the number we knew we could afford.


You didn't know that. He didn't know that. You lie.

You're now complaining that you can't afford it.

You made the mistake. Don't beg for sympathy.

decisions were made by others that deprived her of a father.


Obviously the father cut out. He'll do it to you, too.

Uh--I don't think you really understand the accounting practices that create
a monthly late payment


Actually, I'm well qualified in accounting.

You beat that system (intentionality notwithstanding)
with one well-timed advance payment.

If you're too arithmetically impaired to figure that out,
I hope your kids can find someone else from whom to
learn well enough to become numerate.

...Any payment made outside
the wage garnishment would not be counted as current CS


Try learning about the contractual nature of check memos.

He could be better off settling the arrearage via financing,
but considering that your temporary spouse hasn't the mental
tackle to manage basic birth control, that may be beyond him.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:14:35 -0800, "teachrmama" wrote:
...
does not give a rat's tookus if other children are forced into poverty by
their methods ...


Yes, you don't care that your 'methods' cause your own
children to suffer. You can't control yourself.

... the payments garnished from my husband's wages are NOT COUNTED
as paid on time ...


If you weren't really stupid, you could've solved that 'problem'
a long time ago, with but one extra properly-timed payment.

Those as unintelligent as you and your temporary 'partner'
shouldn't be permitted to procreate, actually.
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:49:20 -0500, "P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager
DOTnet wrote:

Yet another clueless boob.


can't even understand responsible adults


True but if you keep trying, perhaps you can act as if...


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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:56:22 -0500, "Pathetic Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager
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So explain why women should not be responsible for their sole and
unilateral
choices.


Men are responsible.



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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:41:46 -0800, "Chris" wrote:

He (she? whatever) ...


If you ever learn about adult human heterosexuality,
you may even be able to understand men are
those who must manage.



 




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