If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Good post on why it's GOOD to lower the CS incentives/budget to states
http://www.fightfoc.com/serendipity/...forcement.html
I wonder if ANYONE in the state of Texas has actually received numbers of Title IV child support orders enforced vs. NON Title IV orders enforced...hmmm... Does anyone know if there is a way of getting this from the AGs office? |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Good post on why it's GOOD to lower the CS incentives/budget to states
"whatamess" wrote in message ups.com... http://www.fightfoc.com/serendipity/...On-Title-IV-D- Child-Support-Enforcement.html I wonder if ANYONE in the state of Texas has actually received numbers of Title IV child support orders enforced vs. NON Title IV orders enforced...hmmm... Does anyone know if there is a way of getting this from the AGs office? I think you are asking about TANF orders versus non-TANF orders. All orders enforced by the states are part of the IV-D program. Here is where to get the numbers: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/index.html Click on Reports, click on 2006 Preliminary Report, then scroll down and click on State Box Scores. The Texas numbers for caseloads a TANF orders - 81,388 - 8.3% non-TANF orders - 899,109 - 91.7% Total orders - 980,497 |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Good post on why it's GOOD to lower the CS incentives/budget to states
"Bob Whiteside" wrote in The Texas numbers for caseloads a TANF orders - 81,388 - 8.3% non-TANF orders - 899,109 - 91.7% Total orders - 980,497 Horrifying, a million people under the direct control of the government, multiply that by the number of states and that's a good chunk of the working people that are at the mercy of these clowns. America, land of the free, what a hoax! LOL |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Good post on why it's GOOD to lower the CS incentives/budget to states
"DB" wrote in message ... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in The Texas numbers for caseloads a TANF orders - 81,388 - 8.3% non-TANF orders - 899,109 - 91.7% Total orders - 980,497 Horrifying, a million people under the direct control of the government, multiply that by the number of states and that's a good chunk of the working people that are at the mercy of these clowns. America, land of the free, what a hoax! LOL The nationwide CS caseload was 15,844,238 in 2006 The point of the blog is the same as we have discussed here previously. Nationwide current public assistance cases represent 14.7% of the total CS caseload. But current public assistance dollars disbursements represent only 4.1% of the dollars collected. The Federal OCSE is a total failure and the budget cuts are justified since the intended results are not being delivered. Public money is being used to cover-up government failures and inflate the CS collection results to give the appearance of program success. |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Good post on why it's GOOD to lower the CS incentives/budget to states
On May 31, 3:24 pm, "Bob Whiteside" wrote:
"whatamess" wrote in message ups.com... http://www.fightfoc.com/serendipity/...olland-On-Titl... Child-Support-Enforcement.html I wonder if ANYONE in the state of Texas has actually received numbers of Title IV child support orders enforced vs. NON Title IV orders enforced...hmmm... Does anyone know if there is a way of getting this from the AGs office? I think you are asking about TANF orders versus non-TANF orders. All orders enforced by the states are part of the IV-D program. Here is where to get the numbers: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/index.html Click on Reports, click on 2006 Preliminary Report, then scroll down and click on State Box Scores. The Texas numbers for caseloads a TANF orders - 81,388 - 8.3% non-TANF orders - 899,109 - 91.7% Total orders - 980,497 Yes, thank you for understanding what I was saying...sorry, a bit stressed reading all this garbage last night... So as always, with statistics, you can make them be anything you want to make them be... In addition to these HORRENDOUS numbers, I'd love to know what percentage of TANF orders do they actually collect CS for...you know, I have a feeling that is even lower than that darn 8.3%... Basically, this only states that of the CS they collect, 8.3% are TANF orders...I really don't care much about that...What I want to know is... 1. How many TANF orders are in Texas? 2. Of those TANF orders, how many does the state actually collect CS for? 3. Of the 91.7% that they collect CS for, would those children be eligible for TANF if the CPs did NOT collect that CS money? Or would their salaries be so high, that even without the CS, they would not qualify for any type of government assistance... I have a feeling, that's much more like it... 4. Also, out of those orders that the state collects, if the CPs did not receive the CS, would they be entitled to TANF based SOLELY on the CPs income and the child for which the CS order is done? Or would they qualify for TANF ONLY when they add up the other 2-3 children they've had ever since they separated from the first dad...Honestly, my husband's ex would NOT go on welfare or qualify if she did not receive child support for his child...When they consider her income and one child, the only one he should be responsible for, she would not qualify...Now if you add the other two that the irresponsible CP has had since, then maybe she would qualify... But, how is that the NCPs fault? I just think these numbers are used for what they want, just as the other post stated... |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Good post on why it's GOOD to lower the CS incentives/budget to states
"whatamess" wrote in message ups.com... On May 31, 3:24 pm, "Bob Whiteside" wrote: "whatamess" wrote in message ups.com... http://www.fightfoc.com/serendipity/...olland-On-Titl... Child-Support-Enforcement.html I wonder if ANYONE in the state of Texas has actually received numbers of Title IV child support orders enforced vs. NON Title IV orders enforced...hmmm... Does anyone know if there is a way of getting this from the AGs office? I think you are asking about TANF orders versus non-TANF orders. All orders enforced by the states are part of the IV-D program. Here is where to get the numbers: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/index.html Click on Reports, click on 2006 Preliminary Report, then scroll down and click on State Box Scores. The Texas numbers for caseloads a TANF orders - 81,388 - 8.3% non-TANF orders - 899,109 - 91.7% Total orders - 980,497 Yes, thank you for understanding what I was saying...sorry, a bit stressed reading all this garbage last night... So as always, with statistics, you can make them be anything you want to make them be... In addition to these HORRENDOUS numbers, I'd love to know what percentage of TANF orders do they actually collect CS for...you know, I have a feeling that is even lower than that darn 8.3%... Basically, this only states that of the CS they collect, 8.3% are TANF orders...I really don't care much about that...What I want to know is... 1. How many TANF orders are in Texas? Why don't you look at the cite I posted to get answers to your questions? There are 81,388 TANF orders in Texas. 2. Of those TANF orders, how many does the state actually collect CS for? That statisitc is not part of the Texas Box Score. However, TANF dollars collected are 0.9% of the total collected in Texas. The blog you posted points out this discrepency. In Texas the TANF CS orders are 8.3% of the total CS orders being managed by the state. The dollars collected on those TANF orders only represent 0.9% of the total CS dollars collected. To my knowledge, the states do not report numbers of CS orders collected by full amount, partial amount, or zero. Instead, they report total orders and dollars by CS order type. 3. Of the 91.7% that they collect CS for, would those children be eligible for TANF if the CPs did NOT collect that CS money? Or would their salaries be so high, that even without the CS, they would not qualify for any type of government assistance... I have a feeling, that's much more like it... TANF eligibility is determined separately from CS awards. The 91.7% not on TANF would still not be on TANF if no CS was collected. TANF recipients endorse their CS payments over to the state to reimburse the state for the public money benefits. 4. Also, out of those orders that the state collects, if the CPs did not receive the CS, would they be entitled to TANF based SOLELY on the CPs income and the child for which the CS order is done? Or would they qualify for TANF ONLY when they add up the other 2-3 children they've had ever since they separated from the first dad...Honestly, my husband's ex would NOT go on welfare or qualify if she did not receive child support for his child...When they consider her income and one child, the only one he should be responsible for, she would not qualify...Now if you add the other two that the irresponsible CP has had since, then maybe she would qualify... See answer to number 3. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Review: Good Night, And Good Luck (** 1/2) | news.west.earthlink.net | General | 1 | October 25th 05 03:09 PM |
Good things come in pairs! (x-post) | Ilse Witch | Pregnancy | 65 | February 28th 05 03:16 PM |
the link between "bob" and pedophilia (good article) (was: the link between "gay rights" and pedophilia (good article)) | AZ Astrea | Child Support | 0 | June 24th 04 09:17 AM |
Products that help you feel good and look good. | Healthy Living | Kids Health | 2 | November 30th 03 11:27 PM |
the good enema and the war between good and evil | Lifeknox | Kids Health | 11 | July 31st 03 12:25 AM |